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You forgot the criminal tendencies, and then everything crumbles.
Also, I would argue that Becca *is* empathetic. She is perfectly able to understand what others from her entourage need (there's your empathy) and actively provides for them (two other things that argue against her being a psychopath), ie she acts on her empathy to help people around her--she just does so in an analytical way.
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Personally, I don't see any real alternative to how the problem that Lilly had with Frank could have been solved other than through Becca's manipulation.
Lilly was a total daddy's girl and therefore fixated on her father. When Trevor left, for reasons unknown, it broke her heart and she always hoped that he would come back one day, no matter how unrealistic it was. When Shannon married Frank, she realized that she would never have her old family back and projected her resentment, unjustifiably, onto Frank. In Lilith's Longing, we see towards the end that they didn't just have bad times, they also had some good times. We also know that Abby and Becca have always talked Lilly on the subject of her relationship with Frank, but she is incredibly stubborn. The only situation without her getting knocked up by some jerk and Frank getting to drive across the country to get her back because Shannon would have sent her away for sure was to put her in a situation where she was vulnerable and she had no other option but to open up to Frank (emotionally).
As for Becca: Through Rebecca's Reckoning, we know that Becca was more of a bookworm and introvert until she was 18. What pushed her into the starting blocks of her development was the realization that Frank, who she had feelings for for years, could be her biological father and that Shannon made her believe that Trevor was also her father. Then there's the fact that she didn't treat Abby very well, which is mentioned both in Shannon's bio in Single Again, and also mentioned by Abby that her relationship with Shannon was anything but good. I generally agree with her that it's healthiest for all concerned that Shannon is out of this family constellation.
Strictly speaking, I would even say that Becca and Lilly are quite similar. With the slight difference that Becca is subtle and Lilly is more of an “in your face” person (similar to her mother, except that Shannon is solely interested in Shannon.)
Lilly was a total daddy's girl and therefore fixated on her father. When Trevor left, for reasons unknown, it broke her heart and she always hoped that he would come back one day, no matter how unrealistic it was. When Shannon married Frank, she realized that she would never have her old family back and projected her resentment, unjustifiably, onto Frank. In Lilith's Longing, we see towards the end that they didn't just have bad times, they also had some good times. We also know that Abby and Becca have always talked Lilly on the subject of her relationship with Frank, but she is incredibly stubborn. The only situation without her getting knocked up by some jerk and Frank getting to drive across the country to get her back because Shannon would have sent her away for sure was to put her in a situation where she was vulnerable and she had no other option but to open up to Frank (emotionally).
As for Becca: Through Rebecca's Reckoning, we know that Becca was more of a bookworm and introvert until she was 18. What pushed her into the starting blocks of her development was the realization that Frank, who she had feelings for for years, could be her biological father and that Shannon made her believe that Trevor was also her father. Then there's the fact that she didn't treat Abby very well, which is mentioned both in Shannon's bio in Single Again, and also mentioned by Abby that her relationship with Shannon was anything but good. I generally agree with her that it's healthiest for all concerned that Shannon is out of this family constellation.
Strictly speaking, I would even say that Becca and Lilly are quite similar. With the slight difference that Becca is subtle and Lilly is more of an “in your face” person (similar to her mother, except that Shannon is solely interested in Shannon.)
"Often" Criminal Tendencies not every Psychopath has criminal tendencies.You forgot the criminal tendencies, and then everything crumbles.
Also, I would argue that Becca *is* empathetic. She is perfectly able to understand what others from her entourage need (there's your empathy) and actively provides for them (two other things that argue against her being a psychopath), ie she acts on her empathy to help people around her--she just does so in an analytical way.
Psychopath that movies depect are inaccurate
Real life psychopaths are more like Becca
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Do we have a date for 1.24.2? i know the dev said a few weeks over halloween, but anything beyond that?
She's pretty selfless, especially considering lilith and mc relation she forged, so there goes your egocentric assertion.
She does not lack empathy either, she's seen often (at the mc prompt sure, but he's the narrator so ofc we don't see her alone times when she devise her plans, or ruminage her doubts) reflecting back at the others actions and feelings.
She's damn efficient, methodical (and yeah I wouldn't want to make an enemy of her, that's for damn sure).
Spend 5 years working every detail of a plan to achieve a given end result, one very dear to you so you spare no effort, then yes you get detached a bit because every development follows one or the other of your expectations.
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Hey everyone,
So the update is running a little late. I just finished the main writing for the update a few minutes ago. I still need to do testing to make sure all the paths and choices work and the testers need some time to go through it and find all the errors I make. So the update is going to be delayed by two days.
It will be out come hell or high water on the 17th.
I'm sorry for the delay but on the up side this update is roughly %20 bigger than the last one. So there's that.
Thanks for your patience and again, sorry.
I haven't played this game in about two years and it's by far my #1. So it's nice to see it's not abandoned.
i hope the next version isn't 20 percent more Frank thinking how he shouldn't be fucking his step daughters but he likes it..but its wrong ..but he likes it..you get my point right? more Shanacunt is what i am hoping for. and more of the lesbian couple. time for the brunette to join in the fun.
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And no more extrem hesitation from Mei. Go slow for all I care, that'd make it a bit more realistic, but 1 or 2 updates before the last one was way too painful to read.
I expect the update to "strengthen sisterhood." I hope you understand. The younger sister has done so many different things with "daddy" that it would not be good for her to be shy anymore. Why is Becky worse than Abigail? Unfair.
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Please no. I hate that stupid "guy makes lesbian like dicks" trope. If someone is bi then they're bi. She clearly isn't.
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Yeah, Vanessa is perfectly fine as is, and I personally enjoy the relationship that she and Frank have (in fact, she's probably one of my favorite characters in the game after Becca and maybe Lilly). Although I guess she could still "join in the fun" if that means Frank and Becca having a foursome with Beth and Nessa. Frank could take care of Beth's pregnancy while Becca explores her bi side with Nessa (although that would have the "nobody can touch my LI's but me, not even girls" crowd in an uproar
). That would work, imho. Frank adding Nessa to his harem--not so much, sorry for those who like to Pokémon all their AVN's.
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Maybe she doesn't but just wants to share motherhood with her wife. Happy to assist!
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I would love that but as you said that would anger some idiots. And let me remind you that certain people were so angry by the new update the dev had to retcon it.Although I guess she could still "join in the fun" if that means Frank and Becca having a foursome with Beth and Nessa. Frank could take care of Beth's pregnancy while Becca explores her bi side with Nessa (although that would have the "nobody can touch my LI's but me, not even girls" crowd in an uproar
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I wouldn't mind if she asked to get pregnant down the road (or in a wrapup) ... but at the pace the game is going, it doesn't really make sense she'd flip her feelings that fast -- and not before Frank is proven not to be sterile (which still isn't off the table, despite the Becca talk).Maybe she doesn't but just wants to share motherhood with her wife. Happy to assist!
Also, it would be just as valid for her to ask for a donation for AI* -- and more likely (IRL of course) to work quickly.
*I'm suddenly amused that AI works for both artificial intelligence and artificial insemination ...