Steve70

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Is it actually coercion?
That is the question that must constantly be asked. And because human interaction is complicated, the answer is often nebulous. A person may desire something while also having strong reasons to suppress that desire. The balancing of conflicting wants, needs, and self-imposed limitations is what constitutes our moral behavior, and the choices we make are only rarely clearly defined. That fact is what makes our ability to choose freely, without coercion, so important. If we are pressured into making a choice, to what extent is that choice truly ours?

What does all of that have to do with this game (or any other)? The question and its answer are central to the plot of this story. If the dev has not thought about this subject and how it is being explored in this fiction, it will be to the detriment of the end-product.
 
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BuckyOHare

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I'm sorry you feel required to use insults to get a point across, I just hope you are aware there are more honest ways of getting a point across...

I'm sorry if I ever implied you were acting emotional, I never intended for it to come across that way.
Oh I didn't mean to imply that you were implying I'm being emotional. I know I am.

It just really, really irks me that people can't just enjoy the games they enjoy and leave the rest alone. And if they don't like the direction a game is going, there are new updates to all sorts of games added here every day, not like everyone needs to cater to the loudest people in the room.

Also, regarding the insulting language, if you can't see beyond the tone I'm using to the point I'm making, you can choose whether to blame me, or your reading comprehension. I'm done trying to explain myself to you.
 
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Also, regarding the insulting language, if you can't see beyond the tone I'm using to the point I'm making, you can choose whether to blame me, or your reading comprehension. I'm done trying to explain myself to you.
Trying to cast doubt on someone's character, or their attributes to try to undermine someone's argument tends to make any argument trying to be made dead on arrival.
 

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A little side anecdote: I once checked the meaning of the name Abby, and in my mother tongue it came out as “Abigail can be translated as ‘my father rejoices’ or ‘my father is joy’”.

Her second name Nancy: The meaning is translated from the Hebrew word channah, which means “grace”. In a figurative sense, Nancy is therefore also referred to as “the graced one”. However, there are also the meanings “the charming one” or “the graceful one” (see also Hannah and Anna).

While I'm at it:

Lilith Francesca: The exact meaning of the word is disputed, probably translating as “breath of wind”. With the adoption of Lilith in the Talmud, the popular etymological interpretation “the nocturnal one” spread in the Hebrew-speaking world
Franziska (German version of Francesca) is the feminine variant of Franciscus, the Latinized form of the Old High German name Franko. The name Franko, from which the tribe of the Franks also derives, goes back to the Germanic root *franka “brave”, “courageous”, later also “free”. The alternative meaning “little Frenchwoman” also became established.

Rebecca: “the captivating one”, “the one who creates connections”, “the captivating one” or “the beguiling one”

Meiko: (...) Meiko (芽衣子) is also used as a female first name in Japan and is considered a typical Japanese girl's name with the ending “ko” meaning “child”.

The meanings include “the child's clothes”, “the child's destiny”, “the bright child” or “the child's name”.

Depending on the combination of kanji characters, there are other interpretations.

I have to say, apart from Meiko, who I am unsure about, I find the names very fitting and wonder whether CNG chose these names deliberately. If so, then well done.

Other anecdote: Frank says that if Abby had been a boy, Jess would have named her Draven because of a movie she liked. I looked it up. The movie that comes to mind would be The Crow (1994 makes the most sense) and the character in question would be Eric Draven, originally played by Brandon Lee.
 
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ArhraCole

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A little side anecdote: I once checked the meaning of the name Abby, and in my mother tongue it came out as “Abigail can be translated as ‘my father rejoices’ or ‘my father is joy’”.

Her second name Nancy: The meaning is translated from the Hebrew word channah, which means “grace”. In a figurative sense, Nancy is therefore also referred to as “the graced one”. However, there are also the meanings “the charming one” or “the graceful one” (see also Hannah and Anna).

While I'm at it:

Lilith Francesca: The exact meaning of the word is disputed, probably translating as “breath of wind”. With the adoption of Lilith in the Talmud, the popular etymological interpretation “the nocturnal one” spread in the Hebrew-speaking world
Franziska (German version of Francesca) is the feminine variant of Franciscus, the Latinized form of the Old High German name Franko. The name Franko, from which the tribe of the Franks also derives, goes back to the Germanic root *franka “brave”, “courageous”, later also “free”. The alternative meaning “little Frenchwoman” also became established.

Rebecca: “the captivating one”, “the one who creates connections”, “the captivating one” or “the beguiling one”

Meiko: (...) Meiko (芽衣子) is also used as a female first name in Japan and is considered a typical Japanese girl's name with the ending “ko” meaning “child”.

The meanings include “the child's clothes”, “the child's destiny”, “the bright child” or “the child's name”.

Depending on the combination of kanji characters, there are other interpretations.

I have to say, apart from Meiko, who I am unsure about, I find the names very fitting and wonder whether CNG chose these names deliberately. If so, then well done.

Other anecdote: Frank says that if Abby had been a boy, Jess would have named her Draven because of a movie she liked. I looked it up. The movie that comes to mind would be The Crow (1994 makes the most sense) and the character in question would be Eric Draven, originally played by Brandon Lee.
Very nicely researched and great movie, I agree with Jess. :cool:
 

rudy007

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A little side anecdote: I once checked the meaning of the name Abby, and in my mother tongue it came out as “Abigail can be translated as ‘my father rejoices’ or ‘my father is joy’”.

Her second name Nancy: The meaning is translated from the Hebrew word channah, which means “grace”. In a figurative sense, Nancy is therefore also referred to as “the graced one”. However, there are also the meanings “the charming one” or “the graceful one” (see also Hannah and Anna).

While I'm at it:

Lilith Francesca: The exact meaning of the word is disputed, probably translating as “breath of wind”. With the adoption of Lilith in the Talmud, the popular etymological interpretation “the nocturnal one” spread in the Hebrew-speaking world
Franziska (German version of Francesca) is the feminine variant of Franciscus, the Latinized form of the Old High German name Franko. The name Franko, from which the tribe of the Franks also derives, goes back to the Germanic root *franka “brave”, “courageous”, later also “free”. The alternative meaning “little Frenchwoman” also became established.

Rebecca: “the captivating one”, “the one who creates connections”, “the captivating one” or “the beguiling one”

Meiko: (...) Meiko (芽衣子) is also used as a female first name in Japan and is considered a typical Japanese girl's name with the ending “ko” meaning “child”.

The meanings include “the child's clothes”, “the child's destiny”, “the bright child” or “the child's name”.

Depending on the combination of kanji characters, there are other interpretations.

I have to say, apart from Meiko, who I am unsure about, I find the names very fitting and wonder whether CNG chose these names deliberately. If so, then well done.

Other anecdote: Frank says that if Abby had been a boy, Jess would have named her Draven because of a movie she liked. I looked it up. The movie that comes to mind would be The Crow (1994 makes the most sense) and the character in question would be Eric Draven, originally played by Brandon Lee.
Good research, girl's names are pretty much describes them. They fit them little too good to be a coincident... :unsure:
 

MrLKX

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Apart from the tragedy surrounding Brandon Lee, am I the only one who would like to see Lilly with a beret, a French silk scarf and a baguette (not Franks) in her hands? Ever since I read “little Frenchwoman” I can't really get that image out of my head.
 
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Apart from the tragedy surrounding Brandon Lee, am I the only one who would like to see Lilly with a beret, a French silk scarf and a baguette (not Franks) in her hands? Ever since I read “little Frenchwoman” I can't really get that image out of my head.
I don't think I'll ever be able to get this version of lily out of my head... That would be adorable to see from her.
 

ArhraCole

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Apart from the tragedy surrounding Brandon Lee, am I the only one who would like to see Lilly with a beret, a French silk scarf and a baguette (not Franks) in her hands? Ever since I read “little Frenchwoman” I can't really get that image out of my head.
Yeah that would be a pretty cool bonus somewhere in the story. :cool:
 

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Other anecdote: Frank says that if Abby had been a boy, Jess would have named her Draven because of a movie she liked. I looked it up. The movie that comes to mind would be The Crow (1994 makes the most sense) and the character in question would be Eric Draven, originally played by Brandon Lee.
If not from movie then it could be from a game. A little game called League of Legends has champion named Draven. (this is a joke)
 

Dr. Mick

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Apart from the tragedy surrounding Brandon Lee, am I the only one who would like to see Lilly with a beret, a French silk scarf and a baguette (not Franks) in her hands? Ever since I read “little Frenchwoman” I can't really get that image out of my head.
I'd prefer to see her in a kimono, wrapped with an obi, a cherry blossom in her hair, and chopsticks in her hand, but that's me.
 
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