VN Ren'Py Single Again [v1.24.3] [Clever name games]

[MrLKX]

In my estimation, Becca has already prepared Abby to some extent for the idea that she will have to “share” Frank. My primary argument for this is her gift to Abby. “Big Daddy.” Another example of this is that she gave Abby tips on how to get Frank to sleep in bed. Yes, this was all before Frank vetted Abby, but for one thing, we don't know how prepared she had Abby at that point, and for another, we also know that Becca is willing to break promises if it serves the cause.

Yes, there will be some fallout, but I don't think it will be as dramatic as when she found out about Aaron, or Lilly's meltdowns about her ex-boyfriend or her father.

Edit:
However, I can roughly imagine the scenario:
Cut to Lilly, Becca and Mei's apartment, Becca is streaming.
Angry shouting can be heard.
Becca: Chat, don't pay attention, it's just neighbors.
Chatter 1: Doesn't a voice sound like your sister?
Chatter 2: And didn't another voice sound like your boyfriend?
Chatter 3: Also, I'm sure I heard a second female voice.
Becca: Oh, chill, Chat and concentrate on the stream.
Cut to Beth and Vanessa's apartment.
Beth is making a soufflé.
Soufflé: Collapses.
Beth: ...
Vanessa: Sounds like Abby figured out what you guys are doing Frank. What are you doing, honey?
Beth: Getting an ice pack ready. Just in case he'll need it.

 

[JQuillon]

I do feel bad for ab's, and think it is wrong to actively hide all this from her. Since, it's just adding fuel to an inevitable fire. I think Becca will have to be there when she finds out. Even if ab's calms down, I trust Rebecca to help out. Since we can't do anything, but trust her. It's a risky plan, but I would probably trust her if put into franks shoes.

Oh yes, Becca will probably once again be Frank's best bet when that happens (but hey, she isn't the game's "secret true MC" for nothing).

Besides, as MrLKX just said, she already laid the first steps with Abby before Frank's vetoed any more involvement from her (I mean, Abby technically losing her cherry to "Big Daddy" that was a gift from Becca is like the biggest red herring; now she's only got to do it for real, and once again, Becca will hand Big Daddy to her on a plate ).

Yes, there will be some fallout, but I don't think it will be as dramatic as when she found out about Aaron, or Lilly's meltdowns about her ex-boyfriend or her father.

100% agree. I don't expect this to last. She'll probably lose her temper something fierce and this will be a big "OH, SHIT!" moment for Frank, but I'm sure it'll be resolved pretty soon (in bed, obviously).

There will probably some punishment, though (and I'm not even sure that Abby will need to ask Meiko for ideas about that, lol). Maybe she'll demand that Lilly watch when Frank finally pops her cherry, for example...

 

[MaximusDecimeridius]

Oh yes, Becca will probably once again be Frank's best bet when that happens (but hey, she isn't the game's "secret true MC" for nothing).

Besides, as MrLKX just said, she already laid the first steps with Abby before Frank's vetoed any more involvement from her (I mean, Abby technically losing her cherry to "Big Daddy" that was a gift from Becca is like the biggest red herring; now she's only got to do it for real, and once again, Becca will hand Big Daddy to her on a plate ).

There will probably some punishment, though (and I'm not even sure that Abby will need to ask Meiko for ideas about that, lol). Maybe she'll demand that Lilly watch when Frank finally pops her cherry, for example...

I would have to agree, that ab's will probably be quick in her negative feelings.

That is devious, even more devious then when Mei told Frank to punish lily by calling her becca during the deed.

And the whole big daddy thing, yeah I do think that paved the way in more ways than one.

 

[AdmiralSpock]

You all have to realize that Frank & Abby will never go all the way. It may be a fantasy for them both, but it will never happen. It can't because CNG would lose the primary source of funding. It's time to move on from those theories.

 

[MaximusDecimeridius]

You all have to realize that Frank & Abby will never go all the way. It may be a fantasy for them both, but it will never happen. It can't because CNG would lose the primary source of funding. It's time to move on from those theories.

I wouldn't be so quick to outright deny it will happen, anything is possible.

 

[duckydoodoo]

Why would a dead person be in this image???

she is watching over abigail and frank, and according to the cemetary scene and car ride home references, guiding them and crap. abi needs her moms permission to cream after her dad and frank was a sad sack who could never get over losing her, they need a lot of guidance.

this is all assumption obviously. for all we know girl on the bench is just waiting for the bus

 

[cxx]

You all have to realize that Frank & Abby will never go all the way. It may be a fantasy for them both, but it will never happen. It can't because CNG would lose the primary source of funding. It's time to move on from those theories.

patreon has scrutinized this many times and found nothing, she's not frank's bio daughter.

 

[DSSAlex]

I expect a fair bit more of cock teasing but eventually life finds a way. I can think of a few different scenarios for how to do an end run around Patreon for the ending but I don't think that's in the cards too soon.

 

[MrLKX]

patreon has scrutinized this many times and found nothing, she's not frank's bio daughter.

The problem is that it still doesn't change CNG's problems with the guidelines:

Incest

Incest refers to sexual activities or relationships between close relatives.

Not allowed

Real or animated works (photo, video, text, audio) that depict sexual activity or role-play interactions between family members who are blood relatives or part of the same immediate family (e.g., siblings, parents, adopted children, step-siblings, step-parents)

So yes, CNG will have to change platforms sooner or later.

 

[ImperialD]

well i can honestly say .. i loved the new update .. thank you dev.
and yeah i know your cockholding Abby from us .. damn you !!

this update gets all 5 thumbs up

 

[BuckyOHare]

The problem is that it still doesn't change CNG's problems with the guidelines:


So yes, CNG will have to change platforms sooner or later.

Technically, isn't the whole Becca and Lilly thing already a violation of those guidelines?

Also, screw Patreon. Puritans ruin everything.

 

[MaximusDecimeridius]

Technically, isn't the whole Becca and Lilly thing already a violation of those guidelines?

Also, screw Patreon. Puritans ruin everything.

One would assume, but either cng is actively pushing back and trying to understand, or patreon just isn't consistent at all.

 

[DaFinker]

While it may not technically be canon,

The "side stories" ARE canon. They are meant to shed light on the what went into making up the psyche of the girls.

 

[Dr. Mick]

The "side stories" ARE canon. They are meant to shed light on the what went into making up the psyche of the girls.

Yes, I'm aware of that. What I was referring to is the full title that shows on the OP graphic for RR:
Rebecca's Reckoning "or Becca's totally not canon fanfic of lewdness and debauchery".
While it is probably just because Bec is taking some poetic license with her retelling of that part of her story, it struck me as funny that the secondary title makes you question, if only just a little bit, how "canon" her retelling of past events actually might be.

 

[Skep-tiker]

Yes, I'm aware of that. What I was referring to is the full title that shows on the OP graphic for RR:
Rebecca's Reckoning "or Becca's totally not canon fanfic of lewdness and debauchery".
While it is probably just because Bec is taking some poetic license with her retelling of that part of her story, it struck me as funny that the secondary title makes you question, if only just a little bit, how "canon" her retelling of past events actually might be.

Maybe just a way to circumvent patreon...

 

[cxx]

Technically, isn't the whole Becca and Lilly thing already a violation of those guidelines?

nope, even if he was their step-father (he wasn't) that ended when he divorced from ex-wife.

 

[AdmiralSpock]

patreon has scrutinized this many times and found nothing, she's not frank's bio daughter.

She is his adopted daughter and Patreon has stated that that will violate their terms.

 

[MrLKX]

nope, even if he was their step-father (he wasn't) that ended when he divorced from ex-wife.

Actually, Frank was Becca and Lilly's stepfather, but yes, that ended with the divorce. But what falls under that is the relationship that Lilly and Abby had with each other when Shannon and Frank were still married. Both were step-siblings and both had a scene together in Lilith's Longing, which took place (the scene, not LL) at a time when Frank was not yet divorced from his ex-dragon.

By the way, I'm currently going through the storyline again and Becca once said, when she explained the pecking order thing, that Lilly crossed a line once, so Becca felt forced to use the one thing that could massively hurt her at the time. Are you also wondering what that was? My theories on that:

Before Frank and Shannon got married, little Lilly was a mess. I can't imagine that at the time she would have been able to push Becca, who was rather introverted at the time, to the point where that would have been necessary, even though she mentioned that Lilly was a horror at the time. So it must have happened in the last 10 years.

We know that Lilly often messed with Shannon or Frank. Therefore, I assume she was up to something that would have resulted in a punishment from Shannon that would have been much more draconian than what Becca did, or it must have happened about 5 years ago when Becca started to assume that Frank was her father. I suppose it would have been something that could have gotten Frank in trouble or hurt him a lot. Therefore, this would have potentially been the first time Becca was forced to intervene on Frank's behalf.

If this last theory is true, then I hope we learn more about it in Becca's story. It probably wouldn't change my opinion of Lilly, but it would be interesting to see what Lilly's modus operandi against Frank was back then.

 

[ImperialD]

She is his adopted daughter and Patreon has stated that that will violate their terms.

can we just drop talking about Patreon for awhile .. who cares what they think .... this game is awesome !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[MrLKX]

About Abby: We've already seen how unenthusiastic CNG's supporters were when Lilly+Abby was established, to say the least. And there you can still rationalize that it makes sense, due to Frank's caution. CNG, as I see it right now, has 2 big piles of dung in his story that he should avoid if he doesn't want his Supporters to become a mob.

1. a non-optional Becca-Vanessa scene. Heavens, I'd argue even an optional scene would be very controversial. Another dev who is very popular, both for quality and work ethic, got a massive shitstorm in his time in his first work because there was a certain optional scene and that dev has since avoided using anything similar ever again. I won't go into details, but that was a once in a lifetime mistake.

2. making Abby the bait. A not-so-small portion of the plot revolves around Frank's complicated feelings for Abby. Making Abby the bait, and thus the only hypothetical LI who has her own separate side story but no scene with Frank, would most likely draw a reaction that would make the reactions around Lilly and Abby seem like a tempest in a teapot.