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Sober-man

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I noticed a little gaffe, when in the dream the fairy Abby gives the first time blowjob (or fairy Becky), she says that Abby started falling in love with Mc when he kissed her when he left to show the loft to Vanessa and Beth for the second time 6.png



BUT when there was this moment they are talking about, the choice was "kiss and leave" or "Just leave", I chose "Just leave" at the time 1.png , which means the kiss where Abby started to fall in love didn't happen, but they still talk about it like it did
 

sergesan

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That's what's known as a "bait and switch".

I kind of feel kind of sorry for AVN developers. Making a popular game is a fluke, landing a successful follow-up is a miracle. Given the choice between losing half your donors overnight because you've given them what they want vs. bleeding them out over the course of a few years as they wait for you to do it, I can understand why so many choose the latter.
and thats the reason why so many only dl the vn´s but dont pay for it....you dont pay for something your not really convinced about....so many scammers who only milk the fans...who do you bet your hard earned money on!? like you said-one abandones in the middle-one milks the cow for years without real progress - next turns the Harem into NTR halfway through....
 

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all 2024 clichés, ass plug.. girls talking and smiling with semen on their faces, etc..,
but animes are great,
no footjob .? how is it possible... this is a 2020 game,
 
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Seriously, all of you complaining about Abby clearly aren't paying too much attention to the actual story being told.

NO-ONE actually following the story should be expecting anything with Abby at this point. Maybe in the first 10-12 chapters, but not anymore.

So you keep coming back and keep complaining. Why? I can only think of two reasons:
  1. You're stupid
  2. You're a Troll™
That's it. It's annoying, but I had to get that off my chest.

The Frank stuff, while almost as annoying, at least has some merit. It's understandable that some might see his continued reluctance and reticence as unbearable, although I think he's actually progressing quite well, if ever-so-slowly.

If the game makes it to the point that Abby finally becomes one of the chosen, that will hopefully be a wonderful moment. But to come in every update and complain that it hasn't happened yet when it clearly is something still over the horizon?

Yea, it's annoying on GH, it's even more annoying here.

Oh, and the constant Meiko-bashing? You're all sick in the head. Girl is adorable. Only non-white main character, but to each their own I suppose. At least that's about preference ... maybe.
As someone whose usually the horny guy i thought it was clear rebecca is the mastermind setting us up we wouldn't even get lilth 16997946_1464067843651606_4193028290033108819_n.png_thumbnail.png 16997946_1464067843651606_4193028290033108819_n.png_thumbnail.png
 

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I'm looking at the latest update and I've mentioned in the past that Frank and I seem to be on a similar wavelength, this update also has a moment like that: "a-MEI-zing" is something that could totally come from me.
 

Elefex

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CleverNameGames said that this is the "update with most lewd content" (paraphrasing from memory, as I cannot be bothered to look at exactly what he said)

If this is the "most lewd content", I'm severely disappointed
He also pushed this update a month back, and it really doesn't look like it needed it, as it isn't that big in the first place


On the point of Meiko, I personally don't care about her, and I don't care who and how many do, because the reason why people started liking this VN is because of the (step)daughters

Yes, I know Meiko was voted on, I am a former Patreon member, but I genuinely don't believe that focusing away from the reason people came to this game is a good strategy
 
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NebulousShooter

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Well i endured a bit longer...

But i coudn't stand the Mc, he's the perfect candidate for a NTR/cuckhold game though...can't even stand up to a 19y old girl...seriously grow some balls

Not a fan of forced lesbian relationship beetwen LI's (seems kind of a thing these days)

The story is way to slow burn, honestly if the dev continues in this speed DMD will look fast in comparison.

And what finally killed the game for me was, that the only virgin Abby was deflowered with a fucking XL dildo
Ever give it another try? :unsure:

Was thinking on trying it even though I don't particularly vibe with the toon art style, but I've seen quite a few people I follow sing its praise.

I feel with forced relationship as annoying as they are I can deal with, but the problem is very rarely VNs are giving the players the choice on how to react to them. The MC is most of the times by default ok, if not downright a fan of them happening.
 

Cartageno

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Why the fk Meiko exist :HideThePain:
Well, one remarkable day about 24 years ago her mother and her father excused themselves from present company and had a little excercising session ... "The Fuck" indeed, so to say.

and thats the reason why so many only dl the vn´s but dont pay for it....you dont pay for something your not really convinced about....so many scammers who only milk the fans...who do you bet your hard earned money on!? like you said-one abandones in the middle-one milks the cow for years without real progress - next turns the Harem into NTR halfway through....
Not paying for VNs via Patreon (or similar subscription sides) is a perfectly valid decision, you pay way over what a finished AAA game might cost, even if supporting an independent dev, and you don't know what you gonna get, as you state. So waiting until it is finished and then buying it off wherever you can get it is A-OK in my book. It's the same here, I loathe subscriptions albeit for a different reason than total money paid, so I don't do it.

However - this turns the tides against us when it comes to complaining about the game. We do not pay we have no say. And we should always remember: no permanent income would mean no games (or hardly any) at all, so a Patreon or similar is needed.

Also it seems to me when talking development time many on these forums (and probably many devs at the beginning) severely underestimate what kind of time is needed. Neither code nor story are just typed out like that, renders take more time than just the technical rendering, you have to set up scenes and everything and so forth.

all 2024 clichés, ass plug.. girls talking and smiling with semen on their faces, etc..,
but animes are great,
no footjob .? how is it possible... this is a 2020 game,
I always wonder what the reasoning is behind a "this is from (year) why does it include/not include (kink or mechanism)". Makes no sense to me. Before 2020 some people liked footplay and some didn't, after 2020 it is just the same. So some games cater to it, some don't. Has there been a trend in either players or devs since then in the meantime? I wouldn't know, maybe there has. Still doesn't mean every game would need to include or exclude stuff.
 
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However - this turns the tides against us when it comes to complaining about the game. We do not pay we have no say. And we should always remember: no permanent income would mean no games (or hardly any) at all, so a Patreon or similar is needed.
Thats the only bit I dont agree with. A dev should always be trying to grow his fanbase, and listening to an echo chamber can be damning for a creative project. Every person playing the game on sites like these is a potential new subscriber, a dev who just blatantly ignores feedback from them is basically saying I dont want your money.

Sites like these are literally the only form of advertisement they get, and none of the devs would have any followers at all without people trying the game first.
 

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Sites like these are literally the only form of advertisement they get, and none of the devs would have any followers at all without people trying the game first.
well they do crosspromotion at patreon but partially you are right.
 

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Are you fucking kidding, what the fuck is the point in having the incest tag if there's nothing actually happening, I was already kinda pissed that Lilith was his step-daughter, then I find out Abby isn't even his daughter, the fucks the point?
 
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cxx

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Are you fucking kidding, what the fuck is the point in having the incest tag if there's nothing actually happening, I was already kinda pissed that Lilith was his step-daughter, then I find out Abby isn't even his daughter, the fucks the point?
step is incest too and mc is as close a father to abby w/o being father by blood or adoption.
 
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