VN Ren'Py Single Again [v1.25.02] [Clever name games]

[Maviarab]

I haven't played the new update yet and I'm guessing there's still no Abby/MC content yet but I hope it will happen soon which would be awesome. The game is really good because of the story and characters as well as the graphics (the women are cuties) as far as I'm concerned. I like how you've shown the emotional side like family, love, guilt, sorrow and how it can effect the characters so I look forward to more it but I must say I do fast forward a lot of the meandering internal thoughts you have written for the MC, there's just so much it becomes long winded and that detracts from the overall enjoyment I get from the storyline, so for me the skip function is a must do.

I understand the frustration of it being dragged out, I'm in the same boat, but I still enjoy the game. I'm just kinda ready for this one to conclude and a new one to start. Years of waiting for Abby has just become kinda boring now. I'm still going to play and enjoy it, but so much of this feels like bloat to me. Still, I love the quality of the characters and animations, and will always be interested to see what comes next.

There's more than a few of us couldn't care less about Abby so we aren't 'waiting' for anything....

 

[alternativeshame]

I played through a good chunk of this and honestly would've preferred a wholesome dad route over the bang your "daughters" route

 

[Demiurg]

'realistic' MC when you fuck 90% of everything that moves. and all the girls are so wet after MC because he is the only man in that universe.

 

[MrLKX]

I'll post my impressions when I've finished the update. I only recently finished the last update and found the content rather irrelevant, apart from Mei moving into the apartment that will be Lilly and Becca's home for the coming year.

Which is probably still relevant: I'm more convinced than ever that Abby is going to catch Lilly and Frank. Lilly is as subtle as a sledgehammer hitting a massive gong.

What I find interesting is that Lilly vetoes Becca's friend that she (Becca) wants to hook up with Frank but not her former coworker. But well, it could just be that she either doesn't want to think about it or it's just a no-brainer that everyone involved understands without it having to be brought up.

Other than that, I think CNG shouldn't go overboard with the LIs and one-off stories. I think ladies like the judge's daughter or the woman Frank meets at the gym with her brother would be more fitting for a spin-off set in the same universe/house. That wouldn't take too much focus away from the primary ladies and would have the advantage of already having characters for another story.

 

[Maviarab]

'realistic' MC when you fuck 90% of everything that moves. and all the girls are so wet after MC because he is the only man in that universe.

It is still ultimately an adult porn game involving your daughters (adopted or otherwise is irrelevent). The premise of the story is as ridiculous as any other porn story/scene/movie.

Now if you'd like to actually discuss my point, go ahead

 

[MrLKX]

Also, to add:

As for all the idiots wining about Frank, he's actually possibly the most realistic MC of any VN I've played (600+) when you're not projecting that you're some alpha male who can bed anyone without consequence because your a testosterone-filled Greek God.

Vote to name this types of MC the "Zeus" type.

'realistic' MC when you fuck 90% of everything that moves. and all the girls are so wet after MC because he is the only man in that universe.

Why do I have the VN about a basketball prodigy in my head when I read this?

 

[lorkdubo]

Also, to add:

As for all the idiots wining about Frank, he's actually possibly the most realistic MC of any VN I've played (600+) when you're not projecting that you're some alpha male who can bed anyone without consequence because your a testosterone-filled Greek God.

No. And there are more problems with the behavior. This is a player driven VN, not a book. Now, with this said, a bigger problem that is quite frequent in VN, and even more so if they are of amateur nature, is the conflict of the player base with the decision of the MC. We can agree that this is primarily harem incest, fairly vanilla with a male driven MC, right? Then a lot of the thoughts and decisions that are forced into the MC clash in conflict with how the player base wants to play these types of games or how the MC should react.
The way he reacts is not a big problem if he does it once, but he has reacted this way gazillions of times and is so whinny it hurts. Other than the MC, i really like the game. But i would definitely not agree that he is realistic, and even more important, realistic equals good.

 

[Demiurg]

It is still ultimately an adult porn game involving your daughters (adopted or otherwise is irrelevent). The premise of the story is as ridiculous as any other porn story/scene/movie.

Now if you'd like to actually discuss my point, go ahead

That's the point. It's hard to make it realistic, but you can make it more enjoyable. But in the end the developer makes the game as he wishes.

 

[morphnet]

'realistic' MC when you fuck 90% of everything that moves.

The judge, the women in the bar, girls in school etc.

and all the girls are so wet after MC because he is the only man in that universe.

The guy the mom slept with (dad), the shop owner, the cafe guy, the painter etc.

 

[Maviarab]

This is a player driven VN, not a book

It isn't really though is it? It's on the cusp of being a kinetic novel in reality. People/you can either accept that...or move on as it isn't your thing.

That's the point.

No it isn't. Look, I'll say it straight, even if gets me a thread ban. If all the fucking alpha male (lol) whining idiots in this thread think they would react the opposite of Frank (if presented with all the same options) and fuck their girls without thought, they are either:

a) fucking deluded or
b) liars, or
c) not even old enough to vote.

 

[Adhdclassic]

Like this game it is unique. instead of an old pervert a guy wanted to steal somebody’s wife wants to get a harem and shit. It’s the daughter who is manipulating and corrupting the father and other people. Don’t think I’ve ever seen it in any other AVN.

 

[Katzoe]

There's more than a few of us couldn't care less about Abby so we aren't 'waiting' for anything....

Well, I for my part really hope Abby will be part of the harem and I think the story already goes in that direction. (Except for what Lily wants but I think Abby will take care of her)

Still, I don't want to rush the author or anything, the game is kinda slow-burn and I think it's fine that way.
IMO this is easily one of the best active VNs on here atm.

 

[Demiurg]

The judge, the women in the bar, girls in school etc.



The guy the mom slept with (dad), the shop owner, the cafe guy, the painter etc.

All the 'available' girls


LE:

I don't want to get into polemics.Everybody can like and dislike whatever they want. And you can enjoy a game without read others comments

 

[Cartageno]

It isn't really though is it? It's on the cusp of being a kinetic novel in reality. People/you can either accept that...or move on as it isn't your thing.

No it isn't. Look, I'll say it straight, even if gets me a thread ban. If all the fucking alpha male (lol) whining idiots in this thread think they would react the opposite of Frank (if presented with all the same options) and fuck their girls without thought, they are either:

a) fucking deluded or
b) liars, or
c) not even old enough to vote.

My guess is "b" is the lowest number of these (if we mean "liars" on this specific occasion). "a" will probably win by a landslide, though a certain amount of "c" is to be expected.

All the 'available' girls

Well, what's the definition of available here? It reads a bit like "MC can have sex with 90% of the available girls", but my first definition of "available" would make that a whopping 100% even.

 

[Elduriel]

Also, to add:

As for all the idiots wining about Frank, he's actually possibly the most realistic MC of any VN I've played (600+) when you're not projecting that you're some alpha male who can bed anyone without consequence because your a testosterone-filled Greek God.

just try to put yourself in his place... girls that for like a decade were your daughters are into you sexually. Or a girl half your age. Or a girl you raised from birth. No biggie, right, just go ahead and fuck them, easy-peasy. Of course a normal person would be conflicted as fuck. It's a more realistic reaction to the situation than most incest games.
Also at this point it's mostly just pointless whining, other than Abby he got them all, so what's the issue here?

 

[Demiurg]

My guess is "b" is the lowest number of these (if we mean "liars" on this specific occasion). "a" will probably win by a landslide, though a certain amount of "c" is to be expected.



Well, what's the definition of available here? It reads a bit like "MC can have sex with 90% of the available girls", but my first definition of "available" would make that a whopping 100% even.

Developer decide which girls are available (nobody fuck the women listed by you)

 

[The D0n]

but gonna come here and give my worthless fucking pointless opinion anyway.

Anyone got a mirror on hand?

 

[ArDZer]

I'll post my impressions when I've finished the update. I only recently finished the last update and found the content rather irrelevant, apart from Mei moving into the apartment that will be Lilly and Becca's home for the coming year.

Which is probably still relevant: I'm more convinced than ever that Abby is going to catch Lilly and Frank. Lilly is as subtle as a sledgehammer hitting a massive gong.

What I find interesting is that Lilly vetoes Becca's friend that she (Becca) wants to hook up with Frank but not her former coworker. But well, it could just be that she either doesn't want to think about it or it's just a no-brainer that everyone involved understands without it having to be brought up.

Other than that, I think CNG shouldn't go overboard with the LIs and one-off stories. I think ladies like the judge's daughter or the woman Frank meets at the gym with her brother would be more fitting for a spin-off set in the same universe/house. That wouldn't take too much focus away from the primary ladies and would have the advantage of already having characters for another story.

So the same scenario Abby had with Frank when they got caught that morning, but in reverse. That could cause a big division between Lily and her (and one even Becca will have trouble helping Frank solve). I'd find having stories for Darla and Tanya (the judge's daughter and the gym girl) interesting since Lily already had one from her POV. Madison could be another option. And the same goes for Beth and Vanessa as well.

 

[MrLKX]

I could actually see it happening, except in this scenario Abby is faking outrage to make Frank and Lilly guilt tripped. With Darla and Tanya, I was actually thinking of a VN that takes place outside of Single Again but within the same universe. The stories about Lilly, Abby, and Becca are supposed to show us their world of thoughts and things that Frank can't know. I don't know if Madison could work in a spin-off like this, I think she's already too connected to Frank. Beth and Vanessa I think as well, but you could give all three of them cameos to emphasize the connection between X and Single Again.

 

[jffgvz]

It isn't really though is it? It's on the cusp of being a kinetic novel in reality. People/you can either accept that...or move on as it isn't your thing.

No it isn't. Look, I'll say it straight, even if gets me a thread ban. If all the fucking alpha male (lol) whining idiots in this thread think they would react the opposite of Frank (if presented with all the same options) and fuck their girls without thought, they are either:

a) fucking deluded or
b) liars, or
c) not even old enough to vote.

Nope. As an adult with female family members (not daughters) I get the POV of Frank. It should be very disturbing to have the hots for a girl you have raised since the crib, and that you see as a daughter. I also respect that if she is curious and experiments with her step-sis, Frank accepts it and doesn´t go all drama king (even If, IRL most sane adults would have a sit down heart-to-heart with both girls at this point).

That´s why, since Frank has been somewhat "realistic" (if we lower the bar on the realistic a bit) it is irritating that he pushes his daughter, the one he has raised, into a proper incestual lesbian relationship to cope with his demons. To reiterate, in my case the relationship is not the problem. It is the pushing.

The problem is that The father of a girl, knowing that she is not sure, listening to her doubts presents a quasi-ultimatum (either break with her now or go formal now) and forces Abby on one of two paths, and at the same time he uses his position of trust (she is his loving daughter and listens to him) to present the path he likes as more favorable, in practice skipping her choice and forcing her into what he believes is better (practically coercing her) for HIS OWN DESIRES. Not to make her happy, not to clear the air between his two daughters, not because it is the right thing to do; it is because he wants abby to stay "his girl" (IE no other d**k for her).

If you tell me that THIS is sane behavior, instead of listening to her doubts, guiding her and ultimately, leaving the choice to her with no bias. Or being upfront with his bias ("In my opinion, you should...... but it is your choice") then you are the deluded liar.