VN Ren'Py Single Again [v1.25.02] [Clever name games]

[Cavpal]

Jesus F. Christ, the protagonist has no balls whatsoever! Not to mention the game gives you 0 meaningful choices, you can't really reject anyone, because Becca calls all the shots, not you.
You're not the main character, but just a passenger in your own life.

 

[JQuillon]

You're not the main character

Just look at it this way--Becca is the main character, you're the person getting corrupted. This is a reverse corruption game maskerading as a harem game (but don't be too sad for Frank, the guy is getting way more action that he's got any right to and will basically end up as the luckiest guy alive, at least in this universe).

Jesus F. Christ, the protagonist has no balls whatsoever!

This has been debunked many times, though, and just playing the game shows that it is absolutely not true.

 

[Maviarab]

Jesus F. Christ, the protagonist has no balls whatsoever! Not to mention the game gives you 0 meaningful choices, you can't really reject anyone, because Becca calls all the shots, not you.
You're not the main character, but just a passenger in your own life.

That rock must sure be real nice...

 

[Cavpal]

That rock must sure be real nice...

Keep ignoring the red flags and before you realize it, you get taken to the cleaners by your ex-wife.
Ignorance is bliss, they say.
Now I'll wait for the other Ser Simpalots coming out of the woodwork in 3, 2, 1,

 

[Maviarab]

Keep ignoring the red flags and before you realize it, you get taken to the cleaners by your ex-wife.
Ignorance is bliss, they say.
Now I'll wait for the other Ser Simpalots coming out of the woodwork in 3, 2, 1,

You mean the likes of who scurry out from under the skirting board after every update to witter the same shit they did last time?

As for red flags, were you actually trying to make an intelligent point or did it just got lost in translation between your brain and fingers?

 

[Cavpal]

Must be nice to be underage and having yet to experience the dating horrors, uh?

 

[ArDZer]

Rebecca and Lily send a sex video to Shannon she would lose it.

She's more likely to wreck the stuff of the place she'll be in (either her house or workplace). And if her ex-husband happens to be one of the main stars in said video, she'll have a mental breakdown for sure, especially if he's having some sexy time with Dewdrop.

 

[HiHaHo]

Iirc the dev's early comm's regarding this game Abby was always intended to an LI, but not for some considerable time which I always took to mean it would be something like a 3rd act development or something.

Given how many people are also complaining about how slow the MC is in accepting the situation they find themselves in, I find this to be a bit of a Development time/In-Story time segregation/perception problem for those playing. I know it's a porn game and to some the real world need not apply but it probably helps to think about things like this. Although the game has been being developed for a number of years now, within the story only about two to three months have passed. Given that you may have been acting as the defacto father figure to some of these characters for a couple of decades or so it can be understandable why the MC has not yet made a complete change in how they think of these people. There's a lot of mental inertia before that tanker turns, if you'll forgive me for mixing metaphors.

all the arguments would make sense if they were applied to becca & lily as well.
the ball got rolling for becca & lily pretty fast (aside from the internal monologue's) so why not with abby?
is it because she's special?
that just means making becca & lily less important/relevant or that frank didn't truly accept them as his like he did with abby.

you see i believe the resentment towards how progression with abby stems from that difference between how the other adopted daughters are treated compared to her.
all these reason as to why its been slow with abby don't seem to apply to the others or quickly get moved past.

adding to it that abby is often compared to her mother who was franks high school lover,this means some remaining love & attraction will be projected onto abby.
the story & relationships would flow more naturally if abby was the first girl,not lily then becca and others.

the plot doesn't follow "real world" logic or "porn game" logic as your going further into the timeline IMO
it follows the dev's logic which is the only one that should matters because its his fictional story to write
i suspect he did intend abby content sooner but was held back for fear off losing monetisation,so he kinda went with the flow off skirting the edge and doing side project's more and more.

 

[Chillout1984]

all the arguments would make sense if they were applied to becca & lily as well.
the ball got rolling for becca & lily pretty fast (aside from the internal monologue's) so why not with abby?
is it because she special?
that just means making becca & lily less important/relevant or that frank didn't truly accept them as his like he did with abby.

you see i believe the resentment towards how progression with abby stems from that difference between how the other adopted daughters are treated compared to her.
all these reason as to why its been slow with abby don't seem to apply to the others or quickly get moved past.

adding to it that abby is often compared to her mother who was franks high school lover,this means some remaining love & attraction will be projected onto abby.
the story & relationships would flow more naturally if abby was the first girl,not lily then becca en others.

the plot doesn't follow "real world" logic or "porn game" logic as you going further into the timeline IMO
it follows the dev's logic which is the only that matters because its his fictional story to write
i suspect he did intend abby content sooner but was held back for fear off losing monetisation,so he kinda went with the flow off skirting the edge and doing side project's more and more.

It also doesn't help that Abby almost always acts like a little kid, often even more so than Meiko (who imo simply is an introvert), while Lilith and Becca are usually much more mature. I think that is also one of the reasons why Frank doesn't want act on his urges (yet) with Abby.

 

[HiHaHo]

It also doesn't help that Abby almost always acts like a little kid, often even more so than Meiko (who imo simply is an introvert), while Lilith and Becca are usually much more mature. I think that is also one of the reasons why Frank doesn't want act on his urges (yet) with Abby.

maybe,but again so was lily at first ,so were back to the why does lily quickly develop beyond that and not abby?

 

[Chillout1984]

maybe,but again so was lily at first ,so were back to the why does lily quickly develop beyond that and not abby?

The easiest (and lamest) answer would be the difference in upbringing and Frank's pandering of Abby. Imo Lily wasn't childish at all except for how she was "anti-Frank". Besides that, mostly because probably her mother and Becca, she went mature quite fast.

Abby however seems to never really be punished for the things she does wrong. Frank reacts much too weak, so she doesn't really have to get out of that childish mindset.

 

[JGNeon]

all the arguments would make sense if they were applied to becca & lily as well.
the ball got rolling for becca & lily pretty fast (aside from the internal monologue's) so why not with abby?
is it because she's special?
that just means making becca & lily less important/relevant or that frank didn't truly accept them as his like he did with abby.

you see i believe the resentment towards how progression with abby stems from that difference between how the other adopted daughters are treated compared to her.
all these reason as to why its been slow with abby don't seem to apply to the others or quickly get moved past.

adding to it that abby is often compared to her mother who was franks high school lover,this means some remaining love & attraction will be projected onto abby.
the story & relationships would flow more naturally if abby was the first girl,not lily then becca and others.

the plot doesn't follow "real world" logic or "porn game" logic as your going further into the timeline IMO
it follows the dev's logic which is the only one that should matters because its his fictional story to write
i suspect he did intend abby content sooner but was held back for fear off losing monetisation,so he kinda went with the flow off skirting the edge and doing side project's more and more.

It makes a little more sense when you consider Frank (MC) has raised Abby since birth, and has been a stepfather to Becca & Lily only for the last 10-ish years. And in all that time, he's had no sexual feelings about any of them until the last month or so (when he became free from Shannon's talons).

Yes, the game has been in development for about 5 years, but in-game, it has only been a month (the story we see starts on March 30th, and the latest release tackled May 1st).

Realistically, there's bound to be a higher "barrier for entry" to suddenly get sexually involved with someone you changed diapers on, and has known all your life. After all, Frank (MC) has not been shown to be a particularily sex-crazed person before, and has chosen to be on the side of caution, since he doesn't want to risk his existing relationships with Becca, Lily, and Abby for sexual gratification.

In the most recent update, though, Abby has shown more clearly what she actually wants, and as Frank mentioned, he's planning to run his thoughts by Nessa (the therapist), just to make sure he's considering every pro and con when it comes to finally giving in. It will inevitably happen, we just have to go through the motions. Keep in mind, Frank isn't just considering his own desires, but also his promise to Abby's mother about keeping her safe (even if it means from himself), so there's a wall there to be broken down.

I expect in the next week or two (in-game), we might see things escalate between Frank and Abby, though.

 

[JJ1960]

There seems to be a discontinuity in the story during Dewdrop's orgasmathon:

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[HiHaHo]

The easiest (and lamest) answer would be the difference in upbringing and Frank's pandering of Abby. Imo Lily wasn't childish at all except for how she was "anti-Frank". Besides that, mostly because probably her mother and Becca, she went mature quite fast.

Abby however seems to never really be punished for the things she does wrong. Frank reacts much too weak, so she doesn't really have to get out of that childish mindset.

abby has has enough punishments from Shannon if i remember correctly,how she is reverting back to being more clildish is pretty obvious no denying that.

but the long story is that abby's path is a long gruesome one compared to the others(even with that divine sign at the graveyard)
its like its written intentionally as a long lasting tease LI,like the players are a donkey and abby is the carrot on stick always just out reach.
i've lost interest in her about half way in.

 

[JJ1960]

In the most recent update, though, Abby has shown more clearly what she actually wants, and as Frank mentioned, he's planning to run his thoughts by Nessa (the therapist), just to make sure he's considering every pro and con when it comes to finally giving in. It will inevitably happen, we just have to go through the motions. Keep in mind, Frank isn't just considering his own desires, but also his promise to Abby's mother about keeping her safe (even if it means from himself), so there's a wall there to be broken down.

Simple solution: Abby buys a sunlamp and sneaks it into the bedroom. The next time Frank is hemming and hawing she points it at him and turns it on and says "See! Now you have a sign it's okay too! Let's get to banging!".

 

[HiHaHo]

There seems to be a discontinuity in the story during Dewdrop's orgasmathon:

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this is probably the mentioned missing Lewd scene that will be updated in when finished.

 

[HiHaHo]

It makes a little more sense when you consider Frank (MC) has raised Abby since birth, and has been a stepfather to Becca & Lily only for the last 10-ish years. And in all that time, he's had no sexual feelings about any of them until the last month or so (when he became free from Shannon's talons).

Yes, the game has been in development for about 5 years, but in-game, it has only been a month (the story we see starts on March 30th, and the latest release tackled May 1st).

Realistically, there's bound to be a higher "barrier for entry" to suddenly get sexually involved with someone you changed diapers on, and has known all your life. After all, Frank (MC) has not been shown to be a particularily sex-crazed person before, and has chosen to be on the side of caution, since he doesn't want to risk his existing relationships with Becca, Lily, and Abby for sexual gratification.

In the most recent update, though, Abby has shown more clearly what she actually wants, and as Frank mentioned, he's planning to run his thoughts by Nessa (the therapist), just to make sure he's considering every pro and con when it comes to finally giving in. It will inevitably happen, we just have to go through the motions. Keep in mind, Frank isn't just considering his own desires, but also his promise to Abby's mother about keeping her safe (even if it means from himself), so there's a wall there to be broken down.

I expect in the next week or two (in-game), we might see things escalate between Frank and Abby, though.

sure he's been taking care off abby longer then becca and lily but he's had enough parenting years with all where it shouldn't matter to much. ether hes accepted becca and lily as his like abby or he didn't in those 10ish years.

adding again to that that abby resembles jessica meaning remaining feelings for her would get projected on her somewhat(frank keeps mentioning how much she's like her to which makes this relevant IMO) ,and spending more time with frank would easily offset those "extra" years and parental feelings compared to becca & lily.

as for development time being 5 years ongoing that seems like a lot but people never mention the dev is always working on 4 or more projects at the same time, the most recent addition being an entire new full VN not one off the 3(thus far) side story's (honestly that new VN just seem like a supernatural version off single again in my eyes)

 

[Woodstock_1983]

The last time I played this game was in 2024. I can't remember, does the MC ever sees his sister?

 

[MrLKX]

The last time I played this game was in 2024. I can't remember, does the MC ever sees his sister? View attachment 5184254

Not as far as I remember, we have seen her in a flashback, but not in the current timeline. Good for her son.

 

[JustCallMeSteve]

Also don't forget that Abby now also has gained an ally of which Frank almost never can say no to: Meiko. She uses sweet talk to coerce Frank, of which we've seen is much more effective than being pushy like Abby and Becca are doing.

After finishing the latest update(presumably), I must add that that I suspect that Meiko may actually be the avenue through which Abby discovers the existence of the DPG, via the texts being sent to the group chat.

I don't understand the desire of some people to see Abby get fucked by Franck, whether it's physically or otherwise, she's the least attractive female character in the game after all

I'd personally give that honor to Shannon.

abby has has enough punishments from Shannon if i remember correctly, how she is reverting back to being more clildish is pretty obvious no denying that.

In my opinion it is pretty clear to see that as Abby grew to more resemble Jessica, Shannon grew more and more jealous and of course petty. As such Shannon's attitude towards her may have escalated to be much closer to how she acted with Jessica.

Honestly even if Shannon hadn't done what she did specifically, I suspect that the marriage would not have lasted much longer due to her attitude towards Abby and being discontent with not being able to truly get one over/enjoy getting one over on her old rival.