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MrLKX

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1. Bi.
3. Well at least his girls know partially why he is the way he is. Lilly has partially similar issues.
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Rick_Sim

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Because it is a forum and everone can write what the want as long as it in the site rules? Something yourself mentioned before, as well as you don't care what we think, so why should he?

And you answer to his quote, so again, it takes two to dance the tango (or any other couple dance)...
Thanks for the enlightenment! You made me a better person.
 
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Rick_Sim

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1. Bi.
3. Well at least his girls know partially why he is the way he is. Lilly has partially similar issues.
4. 39.
I was referring to Vanessa, even though she is not "on the menu", she still winks at him and finds him handsome/hot (plus seems to like him checking her out). Most of the girls seem to be bi in this, I know Beth is for sure bi, as are Lilith and Abigail, but it is implied most of them are open to it.

I think Lilith is written much more realistically than Frank, Frank could find a pot of gold at the end of a rainbow with a bunch of naked women and he would start having internal issues on how to proceed!

I typoed, fixed due to you and Jace Herondale pointing it out. Thank you.
 

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I had to replay the game from the start.
When doing that the change in character appearance is quite jarring.
Both Abby and Lilly look off. With Abby, her fave changed. With Lilly, her proportions looks off and she looks physically bigger.
 

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I don't know what to think about this game. On the one hand, the animations and scenes are great. On the other, I truly hate the MC. It was refreshing at first not to have him instantly trying to find ways to fuck his daughters, but his inner monologue is beyond annoying especially when he is repeatedly admitting he wants them and then in the next talking about how crazy they are.
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Another thing is Abby. How is the game this far in development and one of the main girls (The best and only reason to play this game imo) doesn't even have a sex scene yet?!

I think I'll just bookmark this and come back in a couple more years when Abby can finally get what she wants.
 

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I don't know what to think about this game. On the one hand, the animations and scenes are great. On the other, I truly hate the MC. It was refreshing at first not to have him instantly trying to find ways to fuck his daughters, but his inner monologue is beyond annoying especially when he is repeatedly admitting he wants them and then in the next talking about how crazy they are.
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Another thing is Abby. How is the game this far in development and one of the main girls (The best and only reason to play this game imo) doesn't even have a sex scene yet?!

I think I'll just bookmark this and come back in a couple more years when Abby can finally get what she wants.
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long, funny and nice update and frank met some new faces whom he won't meet again most likely.

to my eyes that leg looks "bit" too long.

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Another thing is Abby. How is the game this far in development and one of the main girls (The best and only reason to play this game imo) doesn't even have a sex scene yet?!
I think that this happens quite often and consider it can be a good basis for storytelling. I am not talking about the specific execution here, or the specific setup of stepfamily but as a general observation: if there is a designated main love interest, she will have to wait and usually be last in the queue. After all, once we conquered Abby, the story is more or less over, the main obstacle resolved, so there is not that much more to tell. Any romcom/romantic movie (which in a way are probably the closest movie genre we have to AVNs, despite the audiences probably being pretty disjunct) will end with them finally getting together and not drone on forever. There may be some loose ends to tie up for a "happily ever after" but the classic "will they or won't they" has been resolved and most of the story is done.

Granted, as with every rule it can be broken and you can pull off a different approach successfully. And keeping people waiting may not keep their interest up. But think of Dating My Daughter as a warning example - tastes may differ but from chapter 3 the whole doing it with Dee stuff was actually killing the story for me. And given the inner conflict in this game (however you see it from a storytelling POV), this "getting Abby on board" is the main conflict that remains.
 
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I think that this happens quite often and consider it can be a good basis for storytelling. I am not talking about the specific execution here, or the specific setup of stepfamily but as a general observation: if there is a designated main love interest, she will have to wait and usually be last in the queue. After all, once we conquered Abby, the story is more or less over, the main obstacle resolved, so there is not that much more to tell. Any romcom/romantic movie (which in a way are probably the closest movie genre we have to AVNs, despite the audiences probably being pretty disjunct) will end with them finally getting together and not drone on forever. There may be some loose ends to tie up for a "happily ever after" but the classic "will they or won't they" has been resolved and most of the story is done.

Granted, as with every rule it can be broken and you can pull off a different approach successfully. And keeping people waiting may not keep their interest up. But think of Dating My Daughter as a warning example - tastes may differ but from chapter 3 the whole doing it with Dee stuff was actually killing the story for me. And given the inner conflict in this game (however you see it from a storytelling POV), this "getting Abby on board" is the main conflict that remains.
its basically called anticipation .. waiting for a very long time before giving the players what they really want .... more story more money that way also ... besides the other babes in this game are awesome as well ;)
 
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So I've decided that Frank is a woman trapped in a man's body. (No offense meant to womankind). How many times must one of his girls tell him that they're okay with the set up? How long must he hold Lily at arms length because he wants to be absolultely sure (for the 15th time) that she's okay with it all. He's definately a chick. (once again no offense to the female gender)

Don't get me wrong, I like the game. It's actually one of my favorites, but when we stumble into Frank's continues self doubts and recriminations of what he's doing, I just start spamming the <SPACE> key to get passed that tedious shit.

This is just my opinion and views. Have a good one.
 
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I have found the best way that has got me to enjoy this V/N more is to skip the MC dialogue and "say" what I think he should be saying in my head instead of reading the endless self doubt and shaming of the girls. It makes it more palpable and gets me to the more interesting characters, the girls.

I will say I am not sure why he is worried that someone will see him out to dinner with his "daughter" after spending all day with her shopping and the only difference is she's dressed up and he wearing Shrek's skin (Nice one, Lefty Southpaw) because no one has ever taken their step daughter out to eat before. I guess thats just par for the course with this MC.
When I was married, I would take my step-daughter out to dinner, and would often have her mistaken for my date. She was also mistaken for an adult when they would ask if we would like to sit in the bar. She was 14 then, but even her mother had to admit she could easily pass for a young adult. I would have to go into dad-mode after that, and do embarrassing things to break the tension. Well, not embarrassing for me, but I would soon hear "oh my god, dad, stop". At least I had the sense to not wear a shrekshirt.
 

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At least I had the sense to not wear a shrekshirt.
I agree that think is too green and not in "Are you green?" type of things from The Fifth Element. Does anyone know when we need to give that thing back to Shrek?
 

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I agree that think is too green and not in "Are you green?" type of things from The Fifth Element. Does anyone know when we need to give that thing back to Shrek?
Frank murdered Shrek and pulled a Silence Of The Lambs on him. That is the only explanation I can think of!
 
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here is my unofficial android port of Single Again v1.18.
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from now on my android ports of Ren'Py games have a 2nd, persistent save location like windows. if you uninstall an app, the save files and persistent data remain intact.
therefore the app needs the permission to access the public external storage (or a new one on Android 11 :FacePalm:), because it has to read and write outside its own external storage directories.
you have to grant the permission or the app is shut down.

have fun and please report problems (you can reach me ).
updated: 23.11.2022 (v1.18)
and where to download the game Yeslu all tiba links say that the file no longer exists .. and when will you make v1.19?
 

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Some people can take what I am saying as "bitching and moaning", but they misunderstand what I am saying and my point. What they do not understand is I DO like this game, hence why I rated it 4.0 out of 5. Again, that is a very generous rating, and it is more based on the effort and art direction than the actual game as a whole. I appreciate anyone that can make any of these types of games, and obviously effort was put in.

IMO, and likely not just my opinion, to make Frank better and more realistic, he should have been very against the idea of being with his step daughters in the beginning, in the middle of the story conflicted, and in the end all for it (after the time he got with both Becca and Lilith). The writer, as the game is, needs to drive every plot device into you many times over, like you did not get it the first 50 times!

So not only does he maintain this behavior throughout the entire game, this game was obviously intended to be a slow burn. Yet, it takes so many clicks and useless banter in between every scene, you literally hurt your finger clicking so much (I never hold CTRL with these games). Then you get to the scene, and Frank finally has sex with a character. Yet, you cannot just enjoy this, because even when he is doing it, he is conflicted if he should or should not. This was okay the first 1-2 times, annoying by the third time, and outright ruined a lot of scenes the rest of the time. This also gets worse, instead of better, as the game went on. In fact, every single bad quality this game has, gets worse instead of better.

Even worse, the teasing scenes. You clicked literally over 1000-2000 times to get to the next scene, and one of the girls wants Frank (especially if it is a step daughter), and she wants him and tries initiating sex. Then no, Frank says they should not, Frank is conflicted, Frank ruins it. So then you run into another 2000 or so clicks until the next scene, and that could be a possible other tease scene.

Lilith, as stated by others and agreed by me, is sort of like Frank. She has obvious mental issues and insecurities, but she actually is written properly, as the game goes on she improves and becomes more "normal" and opens up to Frank mentally and physically. A lot more realistic and what should have happened with Frank. But Frank is either conflicted or needs one of the younger girls to tell him how to proceed and what to do. So he looks like a Chad, according to the game, but is far from a Chad (more like a Karen!). Becca is more like how Frank should have been, or both could have been IMO. I am all for doing things different and trying to break the normal, but this was done so poorly, it was not worth doing!

The other huge, glaring issue is with Abigail. She was the most loving one, and we all thought by the end of the game Frank would have at least one scene with her. Nope, you see her every angle, but not one scene! So all that buildup and drum roll...more teasing of a premise that never came to fruition. A lot of people feel she is the one they wanted to see in a scene, and it would make sense from a lot of standpoints. I am included in this, I felt that she was the "Holy Grail" for Frank, and would be the final one added to his harem. Sorry kids, the author had other ideas! Yeah, they can add her later, but I really do not see much point in playing this further myself, because likely it would be the same Frank, same stuff just with Abigail scenes (or knowing the author, one scene) added.

My point? This game, in it's latest form, takes a little over 6.0 GB of space. As stated, over 70% of that dialog is Frank being internally conflicted about literally every single thing in the entire game (likely closer to 80%)! This adds a ridiculous amount of material that could have been removed and filled in with progression, a deeper story, and more scenes, making this one of the top AVN games without doubt. It should have went from red light, yellow light, then green light with Frank. Nope, yellow light with even characters not part of his "ex family" the entire game. It went from slow burn to outright stupid and tedious way before the middle of the story and gets worse instead of better to the end! Then, you STILL do not get with Abigail, the one who we all wanted to see (and would be the most likely to be with for Frank, considering who she is and how she looks!).

Imagine the sheer amount of stuff they could have done with this, without all the useless dialog! As I said, about halfway through the content, I started clicking through every scene because I was bored and annoyed, the story was not progressing, and it was more of the same. Yet I only had to rewind a couple of times for the choice. Even doing this, I missed literally nothing about the story. That speaks volumes in itself.

The other issue I am having, is Frank is like a crazy woman in a man's body, he needs younger girls and women to make his mind up for him. There are plenty of teasing scenes too, which build up and build up, then you get more dialog because Frank was Frank for the 20,000th time!

That has woke undertones I do not like, as I am sick of literally everything woke being shoved into our faces. Kind of like porn games, if I do not want to see boobs, I do not download an adult AVN game. If I wanted woke material, I would seek it out. I do not want it, not interested in it, did not ask for it.

There are much better games in this same genre with similar premise and downloadable here, which are also slow burn but have a much better MC. This gives you more choice, and they have better stories and more satisfying scenes, often with better renders.

This game has so much wasted potential, and no I do not think this is Burger King and I will get to "have it my way", and no I do not think even if CNG read my posts they would change the game. They made this game the way it is for certain reasons, but they made it a frustrating, rather than unique, experience. For all the useless writing included and tired plot points, we could have had about 30 Abigail scenes! At least one would have been nice!

I am sure most would agree this has a great premise, but is let down by repetition and poor execution.

They succeeded in:

Most annoying, effeminate MC that is not gay

Most clicks in a game, ever
Most sought after scene, which teased to be working towards (Abigail), then not having it happen.
 
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