It's a fucking porn game, fiction, not real life. You don't need to keep repeating all the unnecessary thoughts when THE READER ALREADY KNOWS. Characters need development and when you keep putting thoughts and doubts (instead of resolving them) in his head like a fucking drama queen you're not developing them. If i wanted a realistic person i could simply delete this game and interact with other people.
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Dr. Mick
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Seriously, there has been character development. It has been slow, and slight, however there has been some.
Did he go from being a wishy-washy milktoast wuss to an alpha uber chad? No, of course not.
If you've been with the story from the beginning though, you will notice there has been a definite change.
In the start, Frank denied everything, wouldn't admit any feelings of any kind, and seemed borderline horrified by the very possibilities of what was being presented to him.
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As I've said before, Frank isn't perfect. He's dealing with a lot, and coming to terms with a nontraditional relationship.
To be blunt, if he made a quick 180 swing in personality I'd find it even more off-putting than some recurring doubts.
Regardless of being a fictional story, it still has to be somewhat realistic, or it wouldn't be remotely believable and people would lose interest in the characters.
Think about it. If Frank started out a caring semi-normal middle-aged single father, and became a fuckboy who didn't care about anything but getting his dick wet even with his daughters, wouldn't that be weirder?
Just enjoy the story, stop worrying about Frank's internal monologue so much, or move on to something else.
If it bothers you that much, there are hundreds of alternatives out there.
My two cents.
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Probably their mother tongue doesn't have grammatical genders for people, so either they struggle with it or the automated translation breaks down. (E. g. in Finnish, there is no way to differentiate between "he" and "she", both are "hän", and songs and stories have used that to throw some misdirection and/or ambiguity into their text.)
... and even in fiction, stories can use the part where they decide to deviate from reality differently. For what it's worth, there are enough stories out there where the respective MC goes over any reservations about incest in next to no time at all, but there is no reason why it can't be different in this one. Some like movies about heroes running through towns killing everybody, some like it when they reflect about what their actions might mean.
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There is no hope for this game, each subsequent update is a copy of previous events and scenes and has been like this for several years
Is there any -- fucking -- progress -- with Abby in this update?
At this point goonbux just feel like two-thirds of the Blue Man Group.
At this point goonbux just feel like two-thirds of the Blue Man Group.
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Oh, there's progress, possibly just not the type you were looking for. Frank and by extension Lilly finally got their wish come true and wore Abby down to where she and Lilly are a couple now and dating. Isn't that great?!
What's better than one lesbian couple where Frank is only banging one of the girls (with the other's permission)? That's right... Two lesbian couples where Frank is allowed to only have sex with one of the girls... wish I totally didn't see this coming.
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yeah she committed to lily whilst saying:"ill always be daddy's girl" the signs are obviousOh, there's progress, possibly just not the type you were looking for. Frank and by extension Lilly finally got their wish come true and wore Abby down to where she and Lilly are a couple now and dating. Isn't that great?!
i don't feel the need to explain why it hasn't happend yet because there is 10 hours off MC internal monologue that covers that
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I probably should have just stopped playing this years ago before I got too invested in the story, but like a car wreck, I can't not keep seeing how this story plays out while trying to predict where or how it will get to it's inevitable conclusion.
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Right, it says "how" the story progresses.
It doesn't say what that progression is, or why, nor does it say to what extent that how applies.
I can get from point A to point C by driving, taking a train, or walking. All of them get me there it's just how that changes.
Got the feeling a couple chapters ago that the author had an idea of how the story would start and finish in mind when they started writing. Each of the chapters since then has simply been filling in the journey between.
Sit back and enjoy the ride, or read something else.
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Glad to see I'm not the only one getting a "This is turning into BS" Vibe.Oh, there's progress, possibly just not the type you were looking for. Frank and by extension Lilly finally got their wish come true and wore Abby down to where she and Lilly are a couple now and dating. Isn't that great?!
What's better than one lesbian couple where Frank is only banging one of the girls (with the other's permission)? That's right... Two lesbian couples where Frank is allowed to only have sex with one of the girls... wish I totally didn't see this coming.
Personally, I am of the opinion that sexual relations with people outside of the Harem, is Cheating/NTR/Cucking (use whatever term you want). I don't care that it's two girls, gender isn't important.
If the fucking around its between harem members, thats one thing, but outside of the Harem isn't something I enjoy playing/reading (and yes, I know that Abby will eventually be drawn into the Harem, It doesn't matter as she isn't a part of it right now).
Still, I probably should have expected this from this Dev given that;
- Game starts with NTR, which while not my favorite plot devices, or in any way original, I can at least understand it as a jumping off point.
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- Dev makes a whole NTR arc to the game, but dodges the Tag by putting that CANON chapter of the story in a separate download.
Sadly, this latest update is kind of a final stray for me.
I've gone from $upporting this game (until the Lillith NTR chapter),
To just playing it every couple of updates,
To probably just ignoring it from now on.
The Dev can and should make whatever game they want. While I think this is very well written, I don't enjoy the direction that writing is going.
I can just imagine an update where Frank (MC) sits back and watches the girls have some kind of gangbang/strapon orgy, while he sips a cafe, and has an existential crisis, pondering if it's ok for him to enjoy it.
Again if that's the direction that the Dev wants to go, all the power to them.
But I for one am done following.
\Drunk rant over\
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I couldn't finish the update. The same boring ass situation with the same boring ass talking and the same boring ass MC internal cuck monologue. I guess i will just press skip just to see the sex scenes because the rest is not worthy.
I was expecting more about this since i was waiting to play this game until get enough updates. 4 fucking years and the dev is still milking this shit with minimal character development.
I was expecting more about this since i was waiting to play this game until get enough updates. 4 fucking years and the dev is still milking this shit with minimal character development.
Out of curiosity how much does your character develop and change over the course of a month because thats how long the story has been going 'in universe' as it were.
Stopping being a bitch and doubting about his own feelings and desires is pretty much a good character development that could fit in less than one (in game) month. But nooo, he needed a ghost in the cemetery to tell him what he actually wants because MC is a bitch and can't think for himself lol
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With more of the same old boring ass self-entitled posts....
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Well, multiple people, myself included, would argue that the amount of reservations needing to be overcome would easily justify way more than a month. You have seen the girls as something else entirely for the best part of two decades after all. And I would also certainly argue that there is character development going on, just not at the pace you expect.
Now, while games don't have to be realistic in every respect, and of course everybody is entitled to their own preferences, I know of people who need to adjust for years to accept the concept that a game is not going the way they expected, and are still bitching around with the same dialogue as years ago, so I would cut Frank some slack - he has more on his plate than just the dialogue in a game, and did only have a fraction of the time.
I would just like to point out the, to me, rather amusing irony of the amount of people who are here whining about the MC of this story being a whiner. And they do it every update, just like they accuse Frank of doing so.
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i do think the crux is that he is already in a relationship whit 2 of his 3 step-daughters
Lily and Becca kinda did force themselves onto the MC and Abby was the mc's step-daughter for longer so it is understandable that he's a bit more hesitant on Abby.
then again Abby is jessica's daughter the women who he loved and she's starting to resemble her more and more, she was the women he loved so you'd expect the boundary's to start disappearing faster.
Most people don't have a issue whit the fact that the MC struggle's whit the idea off being whit abby but that it is dragging on and on whilst hes ignoring that hes already doing the same thing whit Lily and Becca.
All in all it seems that the MC only needs a excuse to get over himself ,Lily and Becca's aggressive approach made him crumble fast
The same can be said for the Rape play thing whit becca,the mc was against the idea but now that Mei said its her "punishment" hes all for it....
the Abby x MC is just a carrot on a stick on the MC(the player) is the donkey
We'll probably see a other scene like at the graveyard before they progress in their relationship( light shining on Abby whilst the rest is covered in shadows like some divine sign)
Lily and Becca kinda did force themselves onto the MC and Abby was the mc's step-daughter for longer so it is understandable that he's a bit more hesitant on Abby.
then again Abby is jessica's daughter the women who he loved and she's starting to resemble her more and more, she was the women he loved so you'd expect the boundary's to start disappearing faster.
Most people don't have a issue whit the fact that the MC struggle's whit the idea off being whit abby but that it is dragging on and on whilst hes ignoring that hes already doing the same thing whit Lily and Becca.
All in all it seems that the MC only needs a excuse to get over himself ,Lily and Becca's aggressive approach made him crumble fast
The same can be said for the Rape play thing whit becca,the mc was against the idea but now that Mei said its her "punishment" hes all for it....
the Abby x MC is just a carrot on a stick on the MC(the player) is the donkey
We'll probably see a other scene like at the graveyard before they progress in their relationship( light shining on Abby whilst the rest is covered in shadows like some divine sign)