VN Ren'Py Single Again [v1.25.02] [Clever name games]

[ReallyNotTimmy]

I'm actually looking forward to your commentary/recap of Lilith's Longing, as well as your continued commentary of Single Againm at least of what has been released so far.

Thanks. I found and downloaded Lilith’s Longing and told the wife about it, so we’re doing that next.

 

[cxx]

becca's father is not lillys father. it is vagualy confirmed when i asked the creator CNG, who is canadian from British Columbia

never has been unless it was trevor who made beccy too at same night as frank fucked shannon.

 

[Lefty Southpaw]

never has been unless it was trevor who made beccy too at same night as frank fucked shannon.

Shannon didn't meet Trevor until after her family moved her, and I have no doubt MC is Becca's father. It's just the kind of manipulative bitch Shannon is. Was getting pregnant intentional? Probably not, but I can easily see her finding out, then hooking up with the first douchebag she can and telling him the baby is his.

 

[JGNeon]

Shannon didn't meet Trevor until after her family moved her, and I have no doubt MC is Becca's father. It's just the kind of manipulative bitch Shannon is. Was getting pregnant intentional? Probably not, but I can easily see her finding out, then hooking up with the first douchebag she can and telling him the baby is his.

Yup, if every detail has been intentional (and not some randomly picked information), there are really only two options to Becca's parentage; either MC/Frank, or someone Shannon cheated on MC/Frank with. And Shannon was pregnant (and she knew about it) by the time she suddenly broke up with MC/Frank, and moved away.

I doubt getting pregnant was intentional, given how abruptly she just uprooted and moved away. I'm guessing pressure from her own family; I've seen stuff/information being hidden away before (or brushed under the rug), just to avoid shaming the family, to uphold the family's reputation.

 

[MrLKX]

Shannon didn't meet Trevor until after her family moved her, and I have no doubt MC is Becca's father. It's just the kind of manipulative bitch Shannon is. Was getting pregnant intentional? Probably not, but I can easily see her finding out, then hooking up with the first douchebag she can and telling him the baby is his.

Since I think the time frame is a little tight for that too, how about this: Shannon didn't meet Trevor until Becca was 3-4 years old, either hid it or passed it off as her little sister, then got knocked up by Trevor and bam, shotgun wedding.

 

[cxx]

Shannon didn't meet Trevor until after her family moved her, and I have no doubt MC is Becca's father. It's just the kind of manipulative bitch Shannon is. Was getting pregnant intentional? Probably not, but I can easily see her finding out, then hooking up with the first douchebag she can and telling him the baby is his.

well we won't know until cng spills the beans aka moves to subs. we can only speculate.

 

[Adhdclassic]

doubt even in God Blessed America can get retroactive child support (unless has really good lawyer and gets dumb judge) especially since Frank lived with her and kids most of their childhood.

She doesn't know what Frank and Becky do behind locked doors.

You think so in America a man can pay child support for a child that has been proven to be not his. As a man from America, I am guaranteeing you retro child support would be given. Not because you have a good lawyer or a dumb judge the laws still haven't been adjust to the current times. They still follow the old child support laws. Retro child support would be given for the time of birth till time of marriage. Unless proven he was paying child support before marriage.

 

[cxx]

You think so in America a man can pay child support for a child that has been proven to be not his. As a man from America, I am guaranteeing you retro child support would be given. Not because you have a good lawyer or a dumb judge the laws still haven't been adjust to the current times. They still follow the old child support laws. Retro child support would be given for the time of birth till time of marriage. Unless proven he was paying child support before marriage.

well in this case i doubt it'd happen (that mc pays for shannon) since she didn't do claim until years later.

how much time in america alleged father has to counter fatherhood?

 

[Adhdclassic]

well in this case i doubt it'd happen (that mc pays for shannon) since she didn't do claim until years later.

how much time in america alleged father has to counter fatherhood?

When I said what I said about Shannon I was just stating that she was a vicious woman and she would do anything and take any measures to fuck over Frank. As far as counter fatherhood there is no time frame. The problem with fatherhood in America is the father has very limited rights. He can contest all he wants courts majority of the time will side with the mother. Thats why I said the laws are outdated. These laws were created when men were overwhelmingly the bread winners and women weren't working. Now we all know women work as much as men but the laws have not been adjusted to that yet. Men are sent to jail for missing child support payments. God forbid it is not your child and you don't pay you still can go to jail.

 

[stangnomez]

Meanwhile, the actual laws as actually written and actually enforced only allow retroactive child support for so far. Depending on jurisdiction, retroactive support can apply for a finite period in the past (Google says 3 years in Canada, and even that is only under unusual circumstances). It would also be calculated based on each parents earnings and contact at the time, so what Frank owed would be proportional to his salary as a high school senior whatever he made during his gap year (assuming that the back support went that far back). Edit: We've also seen CNG have the Judge basically say "The idea that the man automatically gets screwed in a divorce is BS"

The sting from that nominal blow would be overwhelmed by Franks absolute ecstasy at learning that Becca biologically was his, so if Shannon wanted to hurt Frank that absolutely would not be the way to go.

Additionally, Shannon is written as a narcissist, and she would have to know that spilling that Frank is Beccas father would completely remove any influence that Shannon believes that she has over Becca.

This is even assuming that Shannon is sure who Beccas father is. If we accept speculation that she was cheating during their original relationship, she might not be sure that a paternity claim would back her up

 

[Adhdclassic]

Meanwhile, the actual laws as actually written and actually enforced only allow retroactive child support for so far. Depending on jurisdiction, retroactive support can apply for a finite period in the past (Google says 3 years in Canada, and even that is only under unusual circumstances). It would also be calculated based on each parents earnings and contact at the time, so what Frank owed would be proportional to his salary as a high school senior whatever he made during his gap year (assuming that the back support went that far back). Edit: We've also seen CNG have the Judge basically say "The idea that the man automatically gets screwed in a divorce is BS"

The sting from that nominal blow would be overwhelmed by Franks absolute ecstasy at learning that Becca biologically was his, so if Shannon wanted to hurt Frank that absolutely would not be the way to go.

Additionally, Shannon is written as a narcissist, and she would have to know that spilling that Frank is Beccas father would completely remove any influence that Shannon believes that she has over Becca.

This is even assuming that Shannon is sure who Beccas father is. If we accept speculation that she was cheating during their original relationship, she might not be sure that a paternity claim would back her up

If she only knew how truly manipulative Becca is. Betcha Becca has a plan for her mother if she steps too far out of line.

 

[Naps-On-Dirt]

I'm loving that commentary up there, about halfway through it. Reading it at pace with a playthrough (though not the same choices all the time.)

Quick question, I was just noticing, when the MC goes back to the dream sequence/loop of walking in on Shannon and Trevor, he starts it off by saying an unknown male had called him saying he had to get home right away because of an emergency. So far I don't think it has been revealed who made that call. Are we assuming it was Trevor? Maybe at Shannon's prompting? Though that doesn't make sense, her getting caught puts her at a disadvantage so I don't think it was her idea. If it was Trevor, why? It doesn't seem like he was trying to get back with Shannon, and we don't know enough about him to think he'd do it vindictively to mess with the MC. And if not him, who else could it have been?

Also, it annoys me that Lilith's default nickname is Lilly instead of Lily. Yes, some people spell it with too many L's but they are wrong.

 

[Adhdclassic]

I'm loving that commentary up there, about halfway through it. Reading it at pace with a playthrough (though not the same choices all the time.)

Quick question, I was just noticing, when the MC goes back to the dream sequence/loop of walking in on Shannon and Trevor, he starts it off by saying an unknown male had called him saying he had to get home right away because of an emergency. So far I don't think it has been revealed who made that call. Are we assuming it was Trevor? Maybe at Shannon's prompting? Though that doesn't make sense, her getting caught puts her at a disadvantage so I don't think it was her idea. If it was Trevor, why? It doesn't seem like he was trying to get back with Shannon, and we don't know enough about him to think he'd do it vindictively to mess with the MC. And if not him, who else could it have been?

Also, it annoys me that Lilith's default nickname is Lilly instead of Lily. Yes, some people spell it with too many L's but they are wrong.

Sometimes I think it was Becca that had the call made. Remember she can be very protective of the people she loves and we all know she loves Frank. Frank even told vanessa the same thing. Also when he reveals to her it was her father she didn't show no reaction she just says I figured it was.

 

[Naps-On-Dirt]

Sometimes I think it was Becca that had the call made. Remember she can be very protective of the people she loves and we all know she loves Frank. Frank even told vanessa the same thing. Also when he reveals to her it was her father she didn't show no reaction she just says I figured it was.

I agree that she would have motive if she knew about it, but we don't know if she did. I think that she actually explains that she reasoned out that it had to be their Dad because that's the only person that would require secrecy about to not shatter Lily again. I'm almost there in the story so I'll update this if I was wrong.

MC: It was your dad, Rebecca.
Rebecca: Oh...
Rebecca: That's what I figured.
MC: You... knew?
Rebecca: I guessed. Who else could it be?
Rebecca: Why else would you be hiding it from us?
Rebecca: It had to be someone we knew and someone you didn't want us to know about.
Rebecca: He was the most logical answer.

 

[Adhdclassic]

I agree that she would have motive if she knew about it, but we don't know if she did. I think that she actually explains that she reasoned out that it had to be their Dad because that's the only person that would require secrecy about to not shatter Lily again. I'm almost there in the story so I'll update this if I was wrong.

I agree with you. The main reason I said that also she has proven she is a behind the scenes person. Remember how she dealt with Lilys ex. Hopefully it is revealed but I think it is one of those one and done remarks. Cause it is basically at the beginning. It hasn't been bought up since and if Becca was going to reveal she would have revealed when she told him about dealing with the ex.

 

[Arallfydol]

All you people who want Becca to be Frank's biological daughter need to go back and read through Frank's internal dialogue. Then try to imagine what it would be like if he found out he's been doing his BIOLOGICAL DAUGHTER!

Edit: can't spell read

 

[janetitan]

It's also possible that Frank is not Becca's father and that it's just speculation and theories.

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[Mommysbuttslut]

All you people who want Becca to be Frank's biological daughter need to go back and read through Frank's internal dialogue. Then try to imagine what it would be like if he found out he's been doing his BIOLOGICAL DAUGHTER!

Edit: can't spell read

Personally I think that's the best reason for it. Dude's like Frank deserve to find out they've been unknowingly having sex with their biological daughters.

 

[random_throwaway]

All you people who want Becca to be Frank's biological daughter need to go back and read through Frank's internal dialogue. Then try to imagine what it would be like if he found out he's been doing his BIOLOGICAL DAUGHTER!

Edit: can't spell read

Honestly, that's probably what's going to be the catalyst for Frank giving in and accepting Abby. Hell, whose to say that Becca hasn't known the entire time she's thought of her plan?

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

Honestly, that's probably what's going to be the catalyst for Frank giving in and accepting Abby. Hell, whose to say that Becca hasn't known the entire time she's thought of her plan?

She probably has, lord knows she'd get off to the thought of losing her virginity to her bio daddy