DannyLucifer

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To quote the post I was talking about:
"more lesbian crap constantly, with no way to avoid it, now talking about Using strap-on dildos"

The person was moaning about lesbian content, not just the strap on, in a game that is clearly marked as having lesbian content. There are games with kinks I don't like. You know what I do? I ignore those games. I don't download it, go through the content then troll the message boards moaning that there is content that was clearly marked as being in the game. That is why each game has those tags at the top of the page, so you can tell if it will have content you will or won't like. It is called being an adult and being responsible for your own actions. Try it sometime.
Guess you have played kinetic novels all your life, but when the story revolves around choices, it might come as a shock to you but people want choices in those VNs.
 

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Did i miss a choice where i can completely bar any details between Abby and Lilith? i really dont wanna know or see anything between them...
Sadly no, we're beaten over the head with having to suffer through all the details of their sex life... for reasons. Hey, it's great Frank is supportive of them being fuck buddies/friends with benefits, and we know eventually Abby will join the poly relationship, but somehow being ok with knowing what's going on between them = being subjected to hearing a play-by-play report along with their their kinks and use of introducing toys, because why not?
 

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Sadly no, we're beaten over the head with having to suffer through all the details of their sex life... for reasons. Hey, it's great Frank is supportive of them being fuck buddies/friends with benefits, and we know eventually Abby will join the poly relationship, but somehow being ok with knowing what's going on between them = being subjected to hearing a play-by-play report along with their their kinks and use of introducing toys, because why not?
After almost 3 years this is where we're at, huh? That's disappointing, I don't wanna KNOW!
 

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Wrong situation. OP is referring to the trial when Jess was run over by the drunk party girl. Turns out the parents were probably well off financially, the family is friends with Beth's family, and party girl's father pulled out all the stops to get his daughter off with a slap on the wrist. We got more context on this a few updates ago:

The mother has never forgiven her husband for this and was finally able to get him to change his will so that the daughter only gets the obligatory share.

Said mother had also hired detectives to make sure Frank and Abby didn't get into any trouble.

Speaking of trouble: The lady also sent people to Frank every time she heard that someone in her circle was looking for an apartment (including Beth and Vanessa, which coincidentally led to the friendship between the two and the Shavells)
I think the party girl's name (and Jessica's killer) is Penelope Dubois (she changed her surname after she got married overseas and divorced some months later). Her brothers Travis and Ken Lastoya weren't too fond of how their father spoiled her rotten her when she was young due to her being the favourite (even Ken the youngest straight up called her garbage).
And the family's lawyers are also representing the protagonist and Abby. Shannon says "You think your new lawyers can protect you" in reference to that after she leaves when she tried to force her way into the Shavells' place, and the very likely lawsuit she'll try to take to court again (in any case Judge Simmons has in her recordings how she lied about her ex sexually assaulting her and her daughters).
 
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I think the party girl's name (and Jessica's killer) is Penelope Dubois (she changed her surname after she got married overseas and divorced some months later). Her brothers Travis and Ken Lastoya weren't too fond of how their father spoiled her rotten her when she was young due to her being the favourite (even Ken the youngest straight up called her garbage).
And the family's lawyers are also representing the protagonist and Abby. Shannon says "You think your new lawyers can protect you" in reference to that after she leaves when she tried to force her way into the Shavells' place, and the very likely lawsuit she'll try to take to court again (in any case Judge Simmons has in her recordings how she lied about her ex sexually assaulting her and her daughters).
Thank you for the reminder. I think it would be interesting if Party girl (she's not worth naming) became part of the plot, and teamed up with Shannon to take Frank and co. out of the house, which then fails because both women are also trying to rip each other off. But I have no idea how this could be played out in the context of the plot so far. Accordingly, I don't think she has to appear if she can't really contribute anything to the plot.
 
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Guess you have played kinetic novels all your life, but when the story revolves around choices, it might come as a shock to you but people want choices in those VNs.
You don't get to choose everything. Did you get the choice to divorce Shannon? Did you get the choice to marry Jessica and adopt Abby? Did you get the choice to reject Nessa and Beth as customers? Did you get the choice to exclude Mei from the entire game? Did you get the choice to not get the apartment for Lilly and Becca? Did you get the choice to not sleep in the bed with Abby all the way through the game? Games do give you choices, but they also have to force some things to keep the narrative going. The dev is the story teller and he is including the content he wants. If you don't like it, nobody is forcing you to play it.

Sadly no, we're beaten over the head with having to suffer through all the details of their sex life... for reasons. Hey, it's great Frank is supportive of them being fuck buddies/friends with benefits, and we know eventually Abby will join the poly relationship, but somehow being ok with knowing what's going on between them = being subjected to hearing a play-by-play report along with their their kinks and use of introducing toys, because why not?
If you don't like lesbian content, don't download a game with the lesbian tag. You are slapping yourself in the face.

You do know that just having a tag doesn't indicate how much of that kind of content is in the game right? Believe it or not some devs actually give the player a chance to opt out/avoid or skip those kinks. There are also several times when those kinks play a minor role or a limited to side/avoidable characters.
You still get told the content is there. I personally don't want to see vore games, even if it is one scene in a 50 hour story. If I see it tagged, I don't download it and don't visit the comments to moan about it. I take responsibility for my choices and don't cry about it constantly in the game thread.

The names on the labels don't match the names in the dialogue, how do I resolved this?
Back up your saves, then delete the persistant data. That might fix it for you.
 

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You don't get to choose everything. Did you get the choice to divorce Shannon? Did you get the choice to marry Jessica and adopt Abby? Did you get the choice to reject Nessa and Beth as customers? Did you get the choice to exclude Mei from the entire game? Did you get the choice to not get the apartment for Lilly and Becca? Did you get the choice to not sleep in the bed with Abby all the way through the game? Games do give you choices, but they also have to force some things to keep the narrative going. The dev is the story teller and he is including the content he wants. If you don't like it, nobody is forcing you to play it.



If you don't like lesbian content, don't download a game with the lesbian tag. You are slapping yourself in the face.


You still get told the content is there. I personally don't want to see vore games, even if it is one scene in a 50 hour story. If I see it tagged, I don't download it and don't visit the comments to moan about it. I take responsibility for my choices and don't cry about it constantly in the game thread.


Back up your saves, then delete the persistant data. That might fix it for you.
You're talking common sense and logic on F95....

....I'm going to have to ask you stop immediately :WeSmart: :ROFLMAO:
 

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Abby doesn't want to be coupled with Lily but MC keeps gaslighting it with dev keeps showing it. Now talking about strap-on with MC? I don't mind married couples and showing it. Just Dev keeps on repeating MC over and over again with the same dialog.
Did you read ANYTHING Abby said? She's not even *slightly* reluctant to be with Lily, she just wants kids. Franks to be exact, no gaslighting needed.

Sorry, but no chick reluctantly goes out unprompted to buy a strapon to fuck the girl she's been casually hooking up with for AGES.


Ironically, they both hate cheaters, but would qualify for it in my eyes in this scenario, since Frank & Lilly and Abby & Lilly would be running simultaneously, but Abby is the only one who doesn't know about it.
Abby has said, MANY times she and Lily aren't in a relationship. No cheating there.
Frank knows Lily hooks up with Abby and is fine with it. No cheating there.
 
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Does anyone have a chapter 1 download with the old models? Came back to this game after a time away and they just aren't the same. Why is everything so much like Slenderman now?
 

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Have you tried it without the mod?


If this was the 10th or 15th update I'd downloaded then maybe I would have tried that before posting here. However as I stated:
I Just started playing This VN the other day
So It's a Clean 'install' and as such it would be safe to assume It and the mod were fully compatable, This however appears to be Untrue. Also as it's a clean 'install' I deleated the 8.4GiB File after staring the VN to save space.

Either way as nobody else has reported any problems without the Mod, The logical conclusion is The Mod is the problem hence my Post alerting KoGa3.
 
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If this was the 10th or 15th update I'd downloaded then maybe I would have tried that before posting here. However as I stated:

So It's a Clean 'install' and as such it would be safe to assume It and the mod were fully compatable, This however appears to be Untrue. Also as it's a clean 'install' I deleated the 8.4GiB File after staring the VN to save space.

Either way as nobody else has reported any problems without the Mod, The logical conclusion is The Mod is the problem hence my Post alerting KoGa3.
Have you tried the latest mod version? Seems there is a fixed one from yesterday, maybe it solves your problem.
 
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Abby has said, MANY times she and Lily aren't in a relationship. No cheating there.
Frank knows Lily hooks up with Abby and is fine with it. No cheating there.
Yes, though I'm referring to the situation where Frank had actively spoken to Abby about Lilly's feelings for her, which must have been sometime after the hotel stay. The first, not the version CNG uploaded later because his supporters went on the barricades. I don't remember exactly if Abby did consider the Lilly thing after the conversation, in the original version, but the whole post ultimately refers to that original version of an older update and how things could have evolved from there, which is no longer the case as that version was changed.

And even if it's not cheating, I think certain things are or were questionable:

Frank giving Lilly tips on what to do when she's intimate with Abby, with her mom as Frank's reference.

Frank and Lilly both know that Abby has romantic interest in Frank (quote Lilly: I don't trust her with you), apparently ignore it and don't tell Abby that they have something going on.

Abby and Lilly's rule for making out is that nothing happens between them if either of them has a boyfriend. Lilly hides her boyfriend, strictly speaking breaking this rule (again).

Maybe it's just me who sees it that way, but if I were Abby, I'd be pretty upset. At least as far as the two of them are concerned. I think Abby will have noticed Meiko's feelings for Frank and won't hold her secretiveness against her. Especially since she was more or less blackmailed by Becca.
 

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Is there a sex scene with Abby?
Technically, yes. Several, even. Technically... :LOL:

Maybe it's just me who sees it that way, but if I were Abby, I'd be pretty upset.
Pretty sure she will be (she will probably go ballistic, actually, and the resulting "blackmail" will probably seal Frank's fate). :ROFLMAO:

Also, Becca probably has contingencies in place to smooth things over when this happens--no way she doesn't realize what is at risk when (not if) Abby goes nuclear on Frank and Abby.
 

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Technically, yes. Several, even. Technically... :LOL:



Pretty sure she will be (she will probably go ballistic, actually, and the resulting "blackmail" will probably seal Frank's fate). :ROFLMAO:

Also, Becca probably has contingencies in place to smooth things over when this happens--no way she doesn't realize what is at risk when (not if) Abby goes nuclear on Frank and Abby.
It would be strange if Becca didn't have a plan for this, she's known the two of them (Lilly and Frank) long enough and will be able to imagine Abby's reaction.
 
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Have you tried the latest mod version? Seems there is a fixed one from yesterday, maybe it solves your problem.

Thanks for that I used the Ignore button to bypass the issue already.


It appears The Mod was Updated after my OP I was unaware of an update. I was using SingleAgain Mod-v1.24.3WT_KoGa3.zip Having downloaded SingleAgain Mod-v1.24.3aWT_KoGa3.zip, I just tested it and This issue has been fixed so anyone else starting out won't have this issue.
 
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Yes, though I'm referring to the situation where Frank had actively spoken to Abby about Lilly's feelings for her, which must have been sometime after the hotel stay. The first, not the version CNG uploaded later because his supporters went on the barricades. I don't remember exactly if Abby did consider the Lilly thing after the conversation, in the original version, but the whole post ultimately refers to that original version of an older update and how things could have evolved from there, which is no longer the case as that version was changed.
So, something happened, the author corrected it, or revised their work based on feedback, an you're unhappy because?

And even if it's not cheating, I think certain things are or were questionable:

Frank giving Lilly tips on what to do when she's intimate with Abby, with her mom as Frank's reference.
Yes, cos god forbid the Quasi-incestuous game about banging 3 daughter figures gets "Questionable". Next you'll be panning Fetish Locator for being "A bit kinky"

Frank and Lilly both know that Abby has romantic interest in Frank (quote Lilly: I don't trust her with you), apparently ignore it and don't tell Abby that they have something going on.
Because, and bear with me here, because this might be hard to understand, IT IS NONE OF ABBY'S BUSINESS WHO LILY OR FRANK HOOK UP WITH! SHE IS NOT IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH EITHER OF THEM!

Lily is JEALOUS, she LITERALLY SHOWS YOU THIS SEVERAL TIMES, THIS IS THE REAL REASON SHE DOESN'T "TRUST" ABBY WITH YOU!

Abby and Lilly's rule for making out is that nothing happens between them if either of them has a boyfriend. Lilly hides her boyfriend, strictly speaking breaking this rule (again).
They have agreed any relationship they get into also comes with them hooking up, Just because Abby doesn't know, does not mean Lily is cheating.

Maybe it's just me who sees it that way, but if I were Abby, I'd be pretty upset. At least as far as the two of them are concerned. I think Abby will have noticed Meiko's feelings for Frank and won't hold her secretiveness against her. Especially since she was more or less blackmailed by Becca.
She'll get over it. Magic dicking fixes everything.
 
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So, something happened, the author corrected it, or revised their work based on feedback, an you're unhappy because?
No. CNG had a direction for the plot (Frank wanted to get Lilly and Abby together, presumably to “distract” Abby from himself). His patreons (not me) got mad, and CNG was forced to change that storyline to smooth things over. Personally, I see it more like: Whelp, shit happens.
 
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