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MRMIdAS2k

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I don't understand it when MCs literally have the best options one can imagine but they create unnecessary dilemmas and push the opportunities away for nonsensical reasons.
I think most peoples issues with this game are because the MC is written like a real person, and doesn't just jump headfirst into pussy, consequences be damned. He repeats the same arguments because he's not ready to take the plunge yet.
 

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Ok. This is quite possibly one of the best games I have ever played - and I've played a lot. A LOT.

The writing is excellent, the story is well paced, the models are fantastic - just awesome all around.

I did find myself getting irritated with the MC - but then I realize that the author has truly captured the potential, perhaps even likely, thoughts and emotions that someone in that position might experience.

50/10 - extremely well done, and I can't wait for the next update!
 
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Some places nobody's allowed to sell booze on Sundays...
There is a place in Oklahoma I think where there is/was a legitimate law on the books that made it illegal to laugh uproariously in church on Sundays whilst wearing a fake mustache, or something like that.

There are plenty of downright ridiculous laws in the U.S.
 

e6mill

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There is a place in Oklahoma I think where there is/was a legitimate law on the books that made it illegal to laugh uproariously in church on Sundays whilst wearing a fake mustache, or something like that.

There are plenty of downright ridiculous laws in the U.S.
But we're just talking about buying liquor I thought... :)
 
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But we're just talking about buying liquor I thought... :)
Huh, must've misclicked. I had intended to reply to one of the previous posts in the same discussion since the words stupid, US, and laws were all used. Even if the context was different and my post was only tangentially related.

My apologies though.
 
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I think it's pointless to talk about alcohol sales in the US. It's been a long time since we agreed that the game takes place in Canada (that's why they have a Canadian flag in the gym). I have a feeling that the author himself is from Vancouver. So let's focus on Canadian alcohol laws.

I want to draw your attention to an article from July 22, 2025, which lists new - expanded liquor serving hours. I find out that today it is possible for Frank to get a glass of liquor as early as nine in the morning (yes, it was 9 a.m. in the game), but at the time of the update it was not possible.

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I think it's pointless to talk about alcohol sales in the US. It's been a long time since we agreed that the game takes place in Canada (that's why they have a Canadian flag in the gym). I have a feeling that the author himself is from Vancouver. So let's focus on Canadian alcohol laws.

I want to draw your attention to an article from July 22, 2025, which lists new - expanded liquor serving hours. I find out that today it is possible for Frank to get a glass of liquor as early as nine in the morning (yes, it was 9 a.m. in the game), but at the time of the update it was not possible.

Link to the article:

So that's how you prepare to become the 51th state ? :ROFLMAO:

By the way, all countries have a bunch of strange (stupid ?) laws. In France cigarettes can only be bought in "TABAC" store and when it's a BAR / TABAC I think they must have separate accounting

Edit : I remember I didn't come here for that :rolleyes: but for that :

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Filet Mignon is Pork ! You can't and shoudn't do it medium rare.
 

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nice update with lots of happening with various chars, i'm sure frank is regretting his raising methods seeing how mischievous her daughters have become.

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nice update with lots of happening with various chars, i'm sure frank is regretting his raising methods seeing how mischievous her daughters have become.

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That makes me wonder how exactly Frank's offspring with Mei and Beth will turn out to be. It'd be fun if he has daughters with both of them (and in Beth's case triplets, since she was planning to have a second child without having her first baby). :giggle::unsure:
 

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i'm sure frank is regretting his raising methods seeing how mischievous her daughters have become.
Fortunately, at least Lilly ("Rape me, Daddy!") and Becca ("Rape her Daddy. Also, can I watch?") are still acting like normal daughters with their dad. Or maybe not...

Thank god the girls' new mom will be there to teach them to act like prim and proper daughters, though. Although...

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Frank, you lucky bastard! :D
 
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Fortunately, at least Lilly ("Rape me, Daddy!") and Becca ("Rape her Daddy. Also, can I watch?") are still acting like normal daughters with their dad. Or maybe not...

Thank god the girls' new mom will be there to teach them to act like prim and proper daughters, though. Although...

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Frank, you lucky bastard! :D
Shannon better not find out about Becca and Lilly having sexy times with Frank. She'll lose her shit for real if she were to catch them in the act, and have a stroke/mental breakdown or both if she learned they became pregnant or something like that. That'll be one event some players would love to see happen to Frank's ex-wife, she definitely has one big bill to be collected by Lady Karma. :giggle::devilish::whistle:
 
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Shannon better not find out about Becca and Lilly having sexy times with Frank. She'll lose her shit for real if she were to catch them in the act, and have a stroke/mental breakdown or both if she learned they became pregnant or something like that. That'll be one event some players would love to see happen to Frank's ex-wife, she definitely has one big bill to be collected by Lady Karma. :giggle::devilish::whistle:
Shannon definitely has a hefty tab for Karma and Murphy's law to collect on.
 

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Shannon better not find out about Becca and Lilly having sexy times with Frank. She'll lose her shit for real if she were to catch them in the act, and have a stroke/mental breakdown or both if she learned they became pregnant or something like that. That'll be one event some players would love to see happen to Frank's ex-wife, she definitely has one big bill to be collected by Lady Karma. :giggle::devilish::whistle:
how would she find out? unless she hires spy/-ies to follow them and they eat birth control pills to avoid pregnancy.
 

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how would she find out? unless she hires spy/-ies to follow them and they eat birth control pills to avoid pregnancy.
Only ways I can think of is when she's in front of the elevator when Becca can't stop herself if she's together with Frank in that elevator or when Becca, Lilith and/or Meiko are talking about it in public and she overhears them. Both situations are imo very unlikely however.
 

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Unless you're in France (which, in this story, we aren't), .
Ok, my bad !


I just started this VN a few days ago and ... Well... I don't like some characters physical traits but the story is pretty good. I just saw that it exists till 2020. I don't know if I would have been able to wait so long with Abby. It's even more frustrating that "Grandma's House). I just played on the update where Abby tells Frank the truth about her feelings and just before he faces Lilly ? Really ? :eek::eek:
 

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I still decided to leave a comment, I apologize right away, I use Google translator. In general, I would call it "looked for copper and found gold." At first, I thought that there would be another game with an anti-moral main character, who would do everything taking into account his own benefit and obscene desires. In the end, it turned out that a rather interesting story is told here. This is truly the first visual novel that gave me so many emotions, and which I wanted to "go through \ read" further and further. Many did not like it, I will not lie, I also missed several dialogues where the main character repeated his treadmill: that "he is not sure that this is a good idea" or "that they are doing something bad", but then I realized that this is the whole point, at some moments I thought: really, what to do in such a situation that the Main Character got into, where there is a moral choice: about the correctness of your actions, and an attempt to save the relationship without ruining them. I liked this, because usually the main character either goes downhill or immediately has no moral values.
Also, the slow narration turned out to be more of a plus than a minus for me, since I was more immersed in the story and understood what was happening.
In general, I will eagerly await updates, although I understand that I will have to wait a long time
 

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For those who are interested, the latest update has now been released in full on the devs SS page which now features the scenes that were planned to be in the release but weren't quite ready for the early access version a couple of weeks ago.
 
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