Seracjuze

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I don't quite understand, why would a male Holy Knight not be as useful? Is Sinistar's world just more favorable to women when it comes to holy-based magic, if not straight up exclusive?
Something like that it seams. Girls can master purification techniques better.
 

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I don't quite understand, why would a male Holy Knight not be as useful? Is Sinistar's world just more favorable to women when it comes to holy-based magic, if not straight up exclusive?
Its not necessarily that Holy magic works best when used by woman, but rather, take a look at most of the monster we've fought in both Sinisistar 1 & 2. Outside of the ones that just outright kill Rabianne or Lelia with no second thoughts or hesitation, most enemies use them as breeding bags.

Lets say it was a man instead in their positions, do you think then, that ANY of the enemies in either game would give even a seconds worth of continued existence to said man once they've been defeated?

I think that's why its mostly been Sisters/Nuns/Women leading the charge, because most of these abominations offer them a 2nd chance in the way of trying to breed them, which gives them an opportunity to escape and finish their mission
 
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Its not necessarily that Holy magic works best when used by woman, but rather, take a look at most of the monster we've fought in both Sinisistar 1 & 2. Outside of the ones that just outright kill Rabianne or Lelia with no second thoughts or hesitation, most enemies use them as breeding bags.

Lets say it was a man instead in their positions, do you think then, that ANY of the enemies in either game would give even a seconds worth of continued existence to said man once they've been defeated?

I think that's why its mostly been Sisters/Nuns/Women leading the charge, because most of these abominations offer them a 2nd chance in the way of trying to breed them, which gives them an opportunity to escape and finish their mission
It's just the wording sounds like males are somehow less adequate in purification magic based on this excerpt here:
> This is why the Church sends exceptional sisters with great skill over purification magic (Referring to Lilia and probably Rabiane as well in the blog post) to deal with the outbreaks as despite not having great physical strength, their ability to defeat "otherworldly monsters" makes them more valuable than their male Holy Knight counterparts.

Would love a further clarification from the author. Not to argue against your point necessarily as there are more female-favoring monsters than male-favoring ones.
 

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I would caution against the statue and White Potion changes you listed. With the statues no longer removing defilement, the only way to remove it would be to head back to Haanja. While I would be fine with that change, cause hey, more challenge! It's a hardcore mod after all and I'm the type of player to fight the Dancer and the Dragonslayer Armour right after killing Vordt in DS3. The problem is that with the increased defilement levels gained upon grab and the higher struggling difficulty for a low level Lilia, the early game just becomes a 'no-hit run'. I'm concerned that those changes may result in the game feeling more tedious instead of being challenging, but fun as a result.

I would suggest that White Potions remove at least five levels (My personal recommendation) or remain unchanged because they're rare enough as is, since the only consistent supply is after the Demi-Human Raid; and the late-game stages like the Stomach dungeon are already insanely grab-heavy.

I don't quite understand, why would a male Holy Knight not be as useful? Is Sinistar's world just more favorable to women when it comes to holy-based magic, if not straight up exclusive?
Honestly, we don't have a clear answer. Nennai only mentions 'Holy Knights' briefly in their blog post and that's when they were introducing the role of the 'Sisters' in the game and the world. Other than mentioning that the Church values exceptionally skilled sisters like Lilia and Rabiane when it comes to their skill in purification magic over their male counterparts, they don't elaborate any further on the Holy Knights other than that.

ねんない said:
◆シスター
神に仕える女性。主人公とその味方。
肉体としての能力は高くないが、一部の戦うことができるシスターが持つ強い奇跡の力は、邪教徒の邪法で生み出されたこの世ならざる魔物を浄化し倒すことができる有効な手段であり、そういったシスターは男性の神聖騎士以上に重宝される。

主人公ではないシスターは戦う力を持たないため、ゲーム内では依頼をまとめたり、主人公の使う魔法の力を強化したり、支援者として活躍する。もちろん時には主人公と同じようにひどい目に遭う。

◆Sister
Women who serve God. The protagonist and his allies.
Although they do not have high physical abilities, some Sisters who can fight possess strong miraculous powers that are an effective means of purifying and defeating otherworldly monsters created by the evil magic of heretics, making such Sisters more valuable than male Holy Knights.

The sisters who are not the main character do not have the power to fight, so in the game they take on requests, strengthen the magical powers used by the main character, and act as supporters. Of course, sometimes they suffer the same terrible experiences as the main character.

 
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I would caution against the statue and White Potion changes you listed. With the statues no longer removing defilement, the only way to remove it would be to head back to Haanja. While I would be fine with that change, cause hey, more challenge! It's a hardcore mod after all and I'm the type of player to fight the Dancer and the Dragonslayer Armour right after killing Vordt in DS3. The problem is that with the increased defilement levels gained upon grab and the higher struggling difficulty for a low level Lilia, the early game just becomes a 'no-hit run'. I'm concerned that those changes may result in the game feeling more tedious instead of being challenging, but fun as a result.

I would suggest that White Potions remove at least five levels (My personal recommendation) or remain unchanged because they're rare enough as is, since the only consistent supply is after the Demi-Human Raid; and the late-game stages like the Stomach dungeon are already insanely grab-heavy.
You know, i could make the white potion in the shop not a one time purchase, but able to be purchased as many times as you want.
I agree with your point on making the white potion remove at least 5 levels of defilement.


So in summary:
- Statues dont reset your defilement
- White Potions remove only 5 levels of defilement (There are 10 levels in total iirc so to completely remove your defilement you would have to drink 2 white potions)
- White Potions are not a one time purchase anymore in the shop

What do you think? (Should i adjust the price of the white potion then?)
 

Hardflip

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It would be great to add more non-gameover pregnancies like with eggs, i saw that when you got pregnant with demihuman it says in description that it is demihuman pregnancy, not abomination broodling. I was surprised when saw it was treated as such by Haanja, same goes for tentacle eggs, there is a bug when you can 'purge' them via boss fight or via 'cure other effects'.

it would be better to spawn those after some period, like:
- eggs will goes to 2nd phase themselves and spawn young tentas but not all at once, returning eggs to 1st phase. (i really dont get why spawnin mechanics dont used anywere else except cave)
- labour pains causes slow
- same mechanics for leaches, of course spawning goes random and causes slowdown effect when you can only melee and slowly walk around
- demihuman will spawn and just stays there until you leave area (same can be done for piglings)
- different fetuses sprites?
- enemies that suck breasts could be carried around in some conditions? (like if you have lewd mark - they drain mana instead of health and stays on you)


also cool features:
lewd mark - 2 stages instead of 3 (underground monastery is easy level, i had only minor problem with lasers) you need more enemies there anyway
brainwashing has 2 stages - first causes you to reverse controls from time to time, second - game over

you wont acquire your gear in demihuman cave after becoming pregnant and naked , agre fighting guards you will have to run around with your fists as weapon (invisible wand of hardship or visible if its hard to implement) and search for gear in random room/random cave chest

its a shame that Wriggling Mud used only once in whole game
basement stairs could be twice as long, also picture insects dont do shit


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"White Potions remove only 5 levels of defilement " dont think its good idea buying them if statue wont clean you will be hard enough
Unless you add hardcore difficulty for this + no fast travel (actually i thought at the beginning there were none and was sad after descovering it)
 
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CogitoErgusum

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You know, i could make the white potion in the shop not a one time purchase, but able to be purchased as many times as you want.
I agree with your point on making the white potion remove at least 5 levels of defilement.


So in summary:
- Statues dont reset your defilement
- White Potions remove only 5 levels of defilement (There are 10 levels in total iirc so to completely remove your defilement you would have to drink 2 white potions)
- White Potions are not a one time purchase anymore in the shop

What do you think? (Should i adjust the price of the white potion then?)
I won't comment on the potion prices since someone's probably going to suggest increasing the cost of each potion so I wouldn't really have a clue on how the mod's economy would look like. However, now that I thought about it some more, I would say to balance out the statues not cleansing your defilement, have the shopkeeper in the early game who gives the player a free Health Potion also give out a free White Potion. This would make early game playthroughs less of a 'no-hit run' and it balances out the change from 'having defilement cleansing on demand' with the reduced cleansing levels. As for the Traveling Merchant, I would suggest increasing the max amount of White Potions he sells to two, unlimited stock of course.

If I were to make another suggestion, it would be that during the Ruffian scene, the struggle sequence is removed; Lilia instantly loses the moment the Ruffian grabs her. It fits in with the lore as Lilia is only able to escape grabs against monsters due to purification magic and because it's ineffective against humans, she wouldn't be able to escape. I didn't mention it earlier since it would just turn the scene into a guaranteed defeat, but then I realized that it's so obvious that it's an H-scene that the only people going there are the ones wanting to see Lilia get raped so why not do so?
 

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Honestly really hope the extra stuff they add with mid bosses feature Haanja more, like and want to see more of her to the point I'm commissioning some of the pixel only scenes starting with the village raid where she's gang banged by the demihumans. Do wonder what else I could get was thinking scenario where she asks around about the cathedral for Lelia and gets raped by the Ruffians, if I remember correctly dev also mentioned they wanted a scene with her going to the demihuman lair too? Open to suggestions.
 

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Meanwhile I just wish the lewd crest visually appeared on the avatar+sprite. And that there were a way to regain infertility blessing since pregnancy is more of a pain than it is hot in this game. Maybe they will do it in the DLC.

Also better gallery controls for status effects.

Also more Hannja content. In terms of cuteness, Haanja > Rabiane > Lelia.
 
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Really? Pregnancy is pretty easy to deal with, you have to put in effort to lose against Lord Slug in the dream world. I did the whole run with the blessing gone after the fuckers in the Cathedral underground took it from Leila. If anything, the womb crest is the real debuff since it pretty much ensures you are snared with little way out.

I agree on the cuteness scale, considering Rabiane has more fanart and does cute poses whenever she beats a stage boss.
 

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Honestly, we don't have a clear answer. Nennai only mentions 'Holy Knights' briefly in their blog post and that's when they were introducing the role of the 'Sisters' in the game and the world. Other than mentioning that the Church values exceptionally skilled sisters like Lilia and Rabiane when it comes to their skill in purification magic over their male counterparts, they don't elaborate any further on the Holy Knights other than that.
Actually that makes me curious. If there are Holy Knights that should mean they are able to use purification magic. Holy Knights don't have to be necessarily male too so there could be some knights in the sisterhood. In fact I'd probably say Rabi would be closer to one since she uses a sword rather than a wand if it wasn't for her nun outfit.

Which brings up a question...why aren't the holy knights paired up with the sisters? We know the sisterhood doesn't have the numbers and looking at the tutorial boss being a corrupted nun and the cathedral having nuns turned into gold you'd think they would have at least a knight and nun pair.


I agree on the cuteness scale, considering Rabiane has more fanart and does cute poses whenever she beats a stage boss.
Leila does give off that more of a cool beauty look which makes it more erotic when she succumbs to pleasure. The whole blush with one eye closed during arousal effect is nice. Rabiane felt neutral to me as she didn't really give off a just came of age vibe nor a mature lady type. Haanja is Haanja shes basically smol cute, even her surprised pixel art face is adorable when parasites grew out of Lilia....although her fate on that not so much haha
 
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Really? Pregnancy is pretty easy to deal with, you have to put in effort to lose against Lord Slug in the dream world. I did the whole run with the blessing gone after the fuckers in the Cathedral underground took it from Leila. If anything, the womb crest is the real debuff since it pretty much ensures you are snared with little way out.
Strange, I didn't really have any trouble with the womb crest. And yes, the slug harbinger boss is easy to deal with, but I still have to go back and spend the time to defeat it - that's why I said it was a pain, not that it was hard.
 
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You know, i could make the white potion in the shop not a one time purchase, but able to be purchased as many times as you want.
I agree with your point on making the white potion remove at least 5 levels of defilement.


So in summary:
- Statues dont reset your defilement
- White Potions remove only 5 levels of defilement (There are 10 levels in total iirc so to completely remove your defilement you would have to drink 2 white potions)
- White Potions are not a one time purchase anymore in the shop
Will the hardcore difficulty be locked? We already know that we can change between Normal and Casual in the book beside Haanja.
 
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So his grabbing attack goes like this:
-First is high (can crouch)
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-Second is low (can jump)
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-Third is high again

When the Demihuman boss gives the grabbing attack (lowering the hand) on any side, ran to the other side, stopping beside it's hip is safe from the second grab (or just stay on one side and act depend on it's movements)
If done correctly, you can punish as you crouch dodge 1st and 3rd and poke the 2nd (or do other attack patterns you want)

If he raises both of his hands up:
-Just stand in the middle and jump

For axe throwing demihumans:
-Hug one side of the wall as it can block one of the axes, then just shoot one of it to death
Other than this, if anyone needed help with bosses or the games mechanic I will gladly help.
 

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Items 1, 2, 6 are good Relics sink in end-game. For the further enhanced boobs (last item), I read this idea before that it could disable Lelia's bow (because she needs to use one hand to hold her boobs).

Do you think you could tweak the pregnancy mechanic a little bit? I'm thinking it would be harder to get pregnant (womb crest will increase the pregnancy chance) but it would be more difficult to remove pregnancy (perhaps give us a Harbringer boss on steroid?)
 

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Decided to do a variant edit of the one I made before since this is probably more fitting than the guy still going for a kiss after phase 2 lmao

Remember to convert it back to PNG as f95 forum converts the attachment to something else when downloading.

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