You did a great job of telling me how apples are red. But yeah, nope. Sorry, you couldn't convince me how all apples are red.
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Bro, you were that very wall from the very beginning, when you suddenly lashed out at me like a mad dog. Lmao.
So zealously defending the headcanon you yourself now pretend to question.
That's literally just semantics, even the game refers to them as babies sometimes:
Gonna start nitpicking game's own wording now, trying to prove the game somehow wrong? Lol.
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To play devils advocate: There is a reason for Lilia to react that way. She is new to this land, the game starts with the sisters coming here to investigate the situation, so there is no reason for her to know how severe the corruption is here. It's probably not this bad everywhere in the world which is why the got sent here to investigate.
As I said before, don't just apply normal logic into the game (like try to explain why Lilia got pregnant with monster even though she have have sex with the villager). It's just simply because the author not go develop that realistic logic into the game. When she lose the bless, and have sex, she got pregnant monster child, even if she got pregnant, she'll never give birth, until she got caught by some monster with sex desire to fuck her, and end up bearing that latest monster child. That's just the game function, not real life logic.
If you lose the bless and go back the Northeast Village, get capture by the Priest, he'll rape her, parasite her and she got semen build up WITHOUT get pregnant, don't surprise, even normal village have sex one night cause her pregnant monster child but the SUPER BOSS unable get her pregnant, because simply the game function scripted like that. And if you let the monster in this village rape you, got pregnant, escape, go somewhere else with different monster that also have sex desire and get raped again, in the end she'll bearing that latest monster child, not the one from Northeast Village.
Also even though the Priest got defeated, he'll appear again whenever she come back the village.
Try to augment the game with logic totally pointless.
If you lose the bless and go back the Northeast Village, get capture by the Priest, he'll rape her, parasite her and she got semen build up WITHOUT get pregnant, don't surprise, even normal village have sex one night cause her pregnant monster child but the SUPER BOSS unable get her pregnant, because simply the game function scripted like that. And if you let the monster in this village rape you, got pregnant, escape, go somewhere else with different monster that also have sex desire and get raped again, in the end she'll bearing that latest monster child, not the one from Northeast Village.
Also even though the Priest got defeated, he'll appear again whenever she come back the village.
Try to augment the game with logic totally pointless.
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Personally I'm on this side of the argument. Corrupted babies were a rarity at first, resulting in the demihuman god and the leech broodling, but the plague is gradually getting worse and worse over the years and when the game takes place it's at a boiling point. Basically when the despair truly sets in and the pregnant woman is one of the last woman around to desperately cling onto hope for a regular birth but even her hopes are crushed, making her regret even trying.
Lashed out? lol I feel pretty tame but okay.Bro, you were that very wall from the very beginning, when you suddenly lashed out at me like a mad dog. Lmao.
So zealously defending the headcanon you yourself now pretend to question.
No, that would be actual human babies but born cursed under otherworlder's influence. We are talking about Harbinger here. The description shows it immediately seeps in the moment the semen hits "the mother's blood" (conception?), meaning it directly forms the fetus itself. It doesn't corrupt the already existing one.
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No kidding, and there was nowhere I was suggesting such if you actually read my post, let alone the context to it with me responding to another user suggesting that DLC *might* add further depth to the system, a system that I already feel has plenty of content and purpose in the base game as is. The only thing I stated at all is more to point out that, regardless of WHAT knocks you up, the system only accounts for what you end up getting a Game Over from, rather than what actually gave you the pregnancy to begin with, which not an awful system by any means does break a bit of the logical consistency at times. It makes sense for the Abomination Broodlings and such as there is already evidence in the game that said phenomenon is occurring for others, not just the player, but being knocked up by a Demi-human, running over to the pig farm, and losing there only to birth pigs rather than the initial demi-human child is a bit odd. Not a major issue in what is a pretty fantastic game given all the statuses, let alone pregnancy related systems the game has to offer, but it is a nitpick and something I just find moreso odd than really a detriment to the game as a whole.
In other words, yes, I not only expect, but would rather the developer focus on new stages/levels with what mechanics are already present in the game and focus more so on new status effects if ANYTHING at all that might effect the player beyond just being new game overs and sex scenes for the inevitable new levels we'll get if DLC does come. Game has a solid enough basis to build off of for all sorts of stuff, so just more of a good thing is something I'd be happy to have, rather than building up mechanics that are already plenty solid on their own.
Ok, let's calm down a bit. Everything is technically headcanon until proven by the game itself. So far, we know the following:
1. In hopes of understanding why abominations were being born from women who were never kidnapped by monsters, the local church went to Arcezon Town and convinced/pressured the people to give up their pregnant women and infants at the time. This makes me believe that the problem of human women giving birth to abominations and villages getting destroyed due to this was already a thing.
2. Looking at Arcezon Town, we can conclude that it has not suffered raids like the one we stop in the game, since there is no way it would still be there by the time Leila and Haanja arrive. Having most of their women capable of giving birth and their children taken away to never be seen again certainly explains the lack of people. Can't be sure if the women we rescue, besides the carpenter's daughter, are from Arcezon Town or used to be from some other village destroyed by the demi-humans.
3. The situation with the pregnant woman we rescue seems to point out that she knew it was a bad idea letting her lover cum inside her. Her brother did not suspect she was pregnant with an abomination until Haanja confirmed it, and it was only afterwards that he showed concern when Leila herself was pregnant. We can deduce, based on the lore for the Harbringer and what I just stated, that human births are not a thing anymore, but the townpeople still don't know the whole thing. The player knows, the Sisters realize what happened to the girl, but the people still don't know about the curse of the Otherworlder. And given point number one, the few women capable of conceiving children are probably encouraged to avoid that due to the fear that the church will take them away as well....yeah pretty fucked up situation.
4. Taking Leila's experience as an example and assuming the lover of the pregnant woman was just some random dude and not an abomination or priest with rizz and a pretty good disguise, I conclude that, regardless of the townspeople having good reasons to avoid pregnancies (avoid the church taking away their young women again), human births not being a thing until the curse is removed is the stronger argument. Unless Leila's situation is explained as an outlier and not simply part of the norm, there is not enough in the lore or dialogues in favor of human births being a possibility by the time Leila and Haanja arrive at Arcezon.
1. In hopes of understanding why abominations were being born from women who were never kidnapped by monsters, the local church went to Arcezon Town and convinced/pressured the people to give up their pregnant women and infants at the time. This makes me believe that the problem of human women giving birth to abominations and villages getting destroyed due to this was already a thing.
2. Looking at Arcezon Town, we can conclude that it has not suffered raids like the one we stop in the game, since there is no way it would still be there by the time Leila and Haanja arrive. Having most of their women capable of giving birth and their children taken away to never be seen again certainly explains the lack of people. Can't be sure if the women we rescue, besides the carpenter's daughter, are from Arcezon Town or used to be from some other village destroyed by the demi-humans.
3. The situation with the pregnant woman we rescue seems to point out that she knew it was a bad idea letting her lover cum inside her. Her brother did not suspect she was pregnant with an abomination until Haanja confirmed it, and it was only afterwards that he showed concern when Leila herself was pregnant. We can deduce, based on the lore for the Harbringer and what I just stated, that human births are not a thing anymore, but the townpeople still don't know the whole thing. The player knows, the Sisters realize what happened to the girl, but the people still don't know about the curse of the Otherworlder. And given point number one, the few women capable of conceiving children are probably encouraged to avoid that due to the fear that the church will take them away as well....yeah pretty fucked up situation.
4. Taking Leila's experience as an example and assuming the lover of the pregnant woman was just some random dude and not an abomination or priest with rizz and a pretty good disguise, I conclude that, regardless of the townspeople having good reasons to avoid pregnancies (avoid the church taking away their young women again), human births not being a thing until the curse is removed is the stronger argument. Unless Leila's situation is explained as an outlier and not simply part of the norm, there is not enough in the lore or dialogues in favor of human births being a possibility by the time Leila and Haanja arrive at Arcezon.
Again you're repeating same shit as a broken record. It's just semantics, the game refers to them in several different ways throughout its course:
But if you want to play that game, fine, I'll humor you for a bit.
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And before you proclaim "Gotcha!", that was my fucking point from the start. Human babies can't be born, because they get corrupted into broodlings.
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It's actually been going on for years, ever since they dug out the underground valley, in fact.
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Then that fits well with the church taking the drastic action of taking away the pregnant women of Arcezon Town. Not the best idea, honestly. That seems more like a mad scientist approach to find success. Can you confirm if the priests at the time were well-intentioned extremists or simply pretending to get their ritual victims?
It seems to be the case, LOL. I just hope we can all chill and enjoy our respective headcanon. I stand by my points, but those who don't agree can do so just fine. I did try creating a timeline for the second game being a prequel, just for fun. But this shows how succesful was the game in getting us invested in it, quite imppressive honestly.
There's no concrete line stating when they got all corrupted. But I presume that when they all suddenly "disappeared", they were already serving the otherworlders.
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Also, as we see several corpses (petrified and turned into gold) of the sisters in the cathedral treasure rooms, it can be surmised that uncorrupted loyalists were fighting back well past the point when corrupt priests started making broodlings on purpose.
But it's all speculation, because the game doesn't provide any dates.
It's hilarious that a hardcore porn has deeper plot than AAA titles.
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it is also noted in the lore bit of the demihuman god and the leech broodling that they have been born years ago.
So changing the topic from the lore, which do you consider the best scenes between the two games in the following tags:
1. Pregnancy
2. Sexual slavery
3. Guro
4. Horror
5. Stages
5. Boss fights (not taking into account the better mechanics of the second game)
1. Pregnancy
2. Sexual slavery
3. Guro
4. Horror
5. Stages
5. Boss fights (not taking into account the better mechanics of the second game)
Seracjuze
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I don't entirely understand the question. You mean which of those things I like best about the games, or which game stands out more in which category each?
I went to the valley, the path to basement of cathedral, and uses the powder. A slime dropped from the sky. I wonder what lore implication this is?
Not just years. Decades. The old woman tells about how they all worked on that well. I doubt the old woman was capable of carrying bricks or timber in the recent past. It must have been at least 20 or 30 years since that well was built.
Chances are, the otherworld corruption was already seeping into the land before Lilia was even born.