Dessolos

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waiting for Kate romance, corruption and eventual sharing
same Kate is my favorite even tho she doesn't have alot of scenes. Just the way she is caring for the MC when that asshole goes to far really has me liking her alot. Tho Harley and Hazel are really good characters too.

Tho i think sharing content with her is gonna be quite hard to achieve cause of her strong personality.
 
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I love when they have a reason for IC to happen that makes at least a tiny bit of sense, love vampires from the Anne Rice days, and love hot graphics so looking forward to seeing where this goes!
 
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few thoughts, at 1000, 1000 on both mom and sis and cant get nothing naughty going. I know you put a lot in combat and I just wanted to get through it. Rarely do I read these things so you got that, I care about the characters but at the end of the day I am hoping not to leave frustrated which I am currently.
 

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I'll think about it when it comes around. Non sharing influence for dom/sub might just end up being in regular events rather than dream influence anyway.


You probably have to turn sharing on for her, it's in her settings (sandbox hub -> character settings, not game settings)


It's an illusion. The sharing content can be repeated many times with variants, but it has far less renders and text than the regular content does. I can assure you, I spent something like three times as much time on the regular content than I did the sharing.
It's not about number of renders or content. It's about sexual content particularly with main girls like mom and sis compare to their sharing routes.

Now, please tell me how much sexual content is there with mom and sis compare to their sharing roures? More or less? Have they become sluts already in sharing routes while non ntr routed mom and sis are slow burn? And yes I calculate dream sex scenes if they actually show sex renders. So, take them into consideration please and give me a approximate idea.


Dev please answer this.
 

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few thoughts, at 1000, 1000 on both mom and sis and cant get nothing naughty going. I know you put a lot in combat and I just wanted to get through it. Rarely do I read these things so you got that, I care about the characters but at the end of the day I am hoping not to leave frustrated which I am currently.
Sorry the character content is still in its early stages. I'll be starting to fix that after the next release, starting with Evelyn.

It's not about number of renders or content. It's about sexual content particularly with main girls like mom and sis compare to their sharing routes.

Now, please tell me how much sexual content is there with mom and sis compare to their sharing roures? More or less? Have they become sluts already in sharing routes while non ntr routed mom and sis are slow burn? And yes I calculate dream sex scenes if they actually show sex renders. So, take them into consideration please and give me a approximate idea.


Dev please answer this.
You can push them to do some foreplay stuff in the sharing routes, so yes they go further there.
 

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In Love & Vice, you could kind of mix the two routes, virtue/vice in this case. Is it similar here, or are you path locked?
 

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Sorry the character content is still in its early stages. I'll be starting to fix that after the next release, starting with Evelyn.


You can push them to do some foreplay stuff in the sharing routes, so yes they go further there.
I expected that already. So, you mean to say that there is more sexual content with mom and sis on sharing route than main route? And you call this game as non ntr focused game than sharing? Sorry dev, I'm looking for optional ntr/sharing in which, non ntr has more sexual focus (like you say three times more) than the sharing route's sexual content. This game is that or not? Please clarify, especially with mom and sis.
 
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I expected that already. So, you mean to say that there is more sexual content with mom and sis on sharing route than main route? And you call this game as non ntr focused game than sharing? Sorry dev, I'm looking for optional ntr/sharing in which, non ntr has more sexual focus (like you say three times more) than the sharing route's sexual content. This game is that or not? Please clarify, especially with mom and sis.
Honestly I felt both sharing and non sharing has a good amount of content I never felt one had more than the other yet from what I played unless I miss something. ( Tho I didn't play both paths only the corruption one forget the name for it) I plan to play the Love path later. To me this game feels like one that needs time to cook for both paths in my honest opinion. Yeah the sharing route might be ahead of the non sharing / NTR path but not by much in my opinion. I thought this dev is doing a great job at balancing both paths out.

Tho i do think sharing will be in the lead for sure until things progress more with the sister and mother more. As those routes are not something that should be rushed at least to me. As I find when incest relationships are rushed just to include sex it makes them worst and boring overall but that is just me.
 
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Honestly I felt both sharing and non sharing has a good amount of content I never felt one had more than the other yet from what I played unless I miss something. ( Tho I didn't play both paths only the corruption one forget the name for it) I plan to play the Love path later. To me this game feels like one that needs time to cook for both paths in my honest opinion. Yeah the sharing route might be ahead of the non sharing / NTR path but not by much in my opinion. I thought this dev is doing a great job at balancing both paths out.

Tho i do think sharing will be in the lead for sure until things progress more with the sister and mother more. As those routes are not something that should be rushed at least to me. As I find when incest relationships are rushed just to include sex it makes them worst and boring overall but that is just me.
Then you should slow burn the sharing routes as well upto non ntr becomes easy to fuck.. It's possible.. Dev said non ntr is focused and it's three times more. So, I expected that in terms of sexual content as well with main girls like mom and sis.
 
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Keep going mate, it is taking shape.
I think we are still in a very early stage, basically a couple of content,
but i really really like where this is going.

Looking at the (maybe far) future, i wanna suggest you to keep an eye at the "influence dreams" thing.
It's a new thing and a great idea, very tickling for the player (i got horny by doing it even without graphical lewds)
and very functional to introduce scenes. And the scenes can even be made more complex, occasionally.
Before or later, fill this feature with tons of interactions and outcomes,
because this alone can produce A LOT of gameplay standalone from the main plot.

Really, it's a good idea, expand it for the future!

And nice job, you made me play a vampire novel, and i usually DON'T LIKE twilight :D
 

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Keep going mate, it is taking shape.
I think we are still in a very early stage, basically a couple of content,
but i really really like where this is going.

Looking at the (maybe far) future, i wanna suggest you to keep an eye at the "influence dreams" thing.
It's a new thing and a great idea, very tickling for the player (i got horny by doing it even without graphical lewds)
and very functional to introduce scenes. And the scenes can even be made more complex, occasionally.
Before or later, fill this feature with tons of interactions and outcomes,
because this alone can produce A LOT of gameplay standalone from the main plot.

Really, it's a good idea, expand it for the future!

And nice job, you made me play a vampire novel, and i usually DON'T LIKE twilight :D
Thank you! I'll definitely keep the dream influence in mind for future content.
 

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Then you should slow burn the sharing routes as well upto non ntr becomes easy to fuck.. It's possible.. Dev said non ntr is focused and it's three times more. So, I expected that in terms of sexual content as well with main girls like mom and sis.
I have to disagree. Personally, I think the slowburn approach fits better with the incest path, since it's a taboo theme and naturally harder to develop. On the NTR route, however, I can easily picture the mother enjoying the attention and getting involved more quickly — especially compared to the MC, who is her son. From my perspective, that makes more sense and is also preferable, since incest is a turn-off for me. I’d rather play the game focusing on pursuing the other girls, while the mother and sister’s scenes play out in the background. That would be the ideal balance for my experience.
 
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I have to disagree. Personally, I think the slowburn approach fits better with the incest path, since it's a taboo theme and naturally harder to develop. On the NTR route, however, I can easily picture the mother enjoying the attention and getting involved more quickly — especially compared to the MC, who is her son. From my perspective, that makes more sense and is also preferable, since incest is a turn-off for me. I’d rather play the game focusing on pursuing the other girls, while the mother and sister’s scenes play out in the background. That would be the ideal balance for my experience.
100% agree I don't play alot of incest games but the ones I do play if it isn't a least a little bit slow burn it turns me off from playing that path or at least enjoying it. I also do think NTS / sharing is better when it's done slowly but this is depended on the game and the LI too since the context heavily depends on if it makes sense for it to be slow. In this game the pace it's going at is pretty good.
 

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100% agree I don't play alot of incest games but the ones I do play if it isn't a least a little bit slow burn it turns me off from playing that path or at least enjoying it. I also do think NTS / sharing is better when it's done slowly but this is depended on the game and the LI too since the context heavily depends on if it makes sense for it to be slow. In this game the pace it's going at is pretty good.

Personally, I don’t think a heavy slowburn is necessary in the NTS/NTR paths involving the mom and sister. We already know the mom is a hot, muscular MILF — and she openly admits she struggles to get dates because of her physique and dominant attitude. At this point in the story, with the MC’s encouragement, we’ve already seen her flirting, talking, kissing, and even jerking off other guys in the sharing path. That progression feels natural and believable to me. She’s clearly experienced — just getting back into the game — and the guys have been hitting on her and praising her from the start.


That’s why I think the game should start showing more explicit voyeur-style scenes of her in action. She’s already comfortable and having fun with the guys, so the shift to more intense content wouldn’t feel rushed — just earned.


Now, I do enjoy a good slowburn when it’s about a couple exploring a sharing or open-relationship dynamic. But even then, two or three updates are more than enough for buildup. After that, there should be actual payoff — sex, heat, tension turning into action. If not, it risks dragging too long and never delivering. That’s exactly what happened with Project Hotwife by PHWAN — tons of updates, endless teasing, and it ended up abandoned with only a single blowjob scene. No climax, no closure.


Meanwhile, another game called Nyatorase had some slowburn updates, and now players are experiencing hot sex scenes with even more opportunities coming in future releases — it was really well executed. Same thing with Moonripple Lake — a great example of pacing done right.



Now, I don’t really play incest content — it just doesn’t do anything for me. Maybe it’s because I’m very close to my mom in real life, I don’t know — but I simply can’t stand it, so I prefer to avoid it whenever possible. That’s why I’m much more interested in seeing the mom getting involved with other guys, so I can get to see this hot milf in action xD, and the same goes for the sister. That said, when it comes to incest-based gameplay, I totally understand the need for a slower pace. Even though it’s just a game, it deals with a heavy taboo — obviously not something where characters would just jump into it. It requires time, emotional buildup, and multiple events to make it even remotely believable. So yeah, in that case, slowburn makes perfect sense in my opinion, and judging but what you said, this is exactly part of the charm about it I guess.

But for NTR and sharing routes, the pacing should be tighter. Give us the heat, the tension, the payoff — and don’t be afraid to pull the trigger. At this point, I think the buildup is already more than enough.
 
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Personally, I don’t think a heavy slowburn is necessary in the NTS/NTR paths involving the mom and sister. We already know the mom is a hot, muscular MILF — and she openly admits she struggles to get dates because of her physique and dominant attitude. At this point in the story, with the MC’s encouragement, we’ve already seen her flirting, talking, kissing, and even jerking off other guys in the sharing path. That progression feels natural and believable to me. She’s clearly experienced — just getting back into the game — and the guys have been hitting on her and praising her from the start.


That’s why I think the game should start showing more explicit voyeur-style scenes of her in action. She’s already comfortable and having fun with the guys, so the shift to more intense content wouldn’t feel rushed — just earned.


Now, I do enjoy a good slowburn when it’s about a couple exploring a sharing or open-relationship dynamic. But even then, two or three updates are more than enough for buildup. After that, there should be actual payoff — sex, heat, tension turning into action. If not, it risks dragging too long and never delivering. That’s exactly what happened with Project Hotwife by PHWAN — tons of updates, endless teasing, and it ended up abandoned with only a single blowjob scene. No climax, no closure.


Meanwhile, another game called Nyatorase had some slowburn updates, and now players are experiencing hot sex scenes with even more opportunities coming in future releases — it was really well executed. Same thing with Moonripple Lake — a great example of pacing done right.


Now, when it comes to incest content, though, I completely understand the need for a slower pace. Even though it’s just a game, that kind of theme is a heavy taboo — obviously not something where the characters would jump into it right away. It requires time, emotional shifts, and layered events to make it feel even remotely believable. So yeah, slowburn fits there. But for NTR and sharing routes? Keep the pace tighter, give us the heat, and don’t be afraid to pull the trigger.
oh I was just speaking in general terms about slow burn about NTR / NTS not this game. I think this game is going at good speed. Especially cause it's mostly with your mother and sister I don't think those type of character need to be just as slow when it comes to sharing content. After all usually the MC isn't in a relationship with them right away so a slow burn forsharing content with family is weird to me they should just live their lives.

I agree and disagree with you about 2 or 3 updates being enough build up it really depends on the game and context of the game.
 
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oh I was just speaking in general terms about slow burn about NTR / NTS not this game. I think this game is going at good speed. Especially cause it's mostly with your mother and sister I don't think those type of character need to be just as slow when it comes to sharing content. After all usually the MC isn't in a relationship with them right away so a slow burn forsharing content with family is weird to me they should just live their lives.

I agree and disagree with you about 2 or 3 updates being enough build up it really depends on the game and context of the game.
Yeah, that’s what I was trying to say when I mentioned I disagreed with the guy above. I don’t think it would make any sense to turn the sharing path into a slowburn like the incest one — we're talking about the MC’s family (who in conventional ways would never be a LI), both women are single, and there’s a huge difference between having casual relationships with other people and engaging in an incestuous one. That's why I'm liking the progression in the sharing path, and really hoping to see the actual action with many scenes.
 
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Yeah, that’s what I was trying to say when I mentioned I disagreed with the guy above. I don’t think it would make any sense to turn the sharing path into a slowburn like the incest one — we're talking about the MC’s family (who in conventional ways would never be a LI), both women are single, and there’s a huge difference between having casual relationships with other people and engaging in an incestuous one. That's why I'm liking the progression in the sharing path, and really hoping to see the actual action with many scenes.
It depends what one is looking for. If they want general corruption and spicy scenes, then what you're saying is preferable. If they want a swinger setup with a girlfriend, then slowburn would be preferable.
 
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