Skyrim Patreon mods

[TheBeeMan]

There's a proper conversion out now

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Nah this is not a proper conversion. Its riddled with clipping and ghost files part of the original
3BA conversion tons of fucking mistakes. Plus its for V3 of BHUNP not V4. It is also missing a ton of zap sliders.

Use this one instead:

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[animetiddyenthusiast]

Things are a bit more complicated. Paywalling ESX plugins breaks Bethesda EULA/TOS indeed but in the same time if some person pirates content (like meshes, textures, animations, etc. alongside with ESX) - this is another EULA/TOS break and it is unrelated to the initial EULA/TOS break. You can't turn two negatives into one positive in law and all this stuff.

Um citation? What Eula do you think you're breaking? Patreon? I'm not using the platform so they have no say. Maybe if you had to hack them but just obtaining a file and sharing it isnt something they can take action against. The creator may have some rights to their illegal content but that could only possibly come into play if you're trying to sell it. They have no footing to stand on if you're using it personally and not seeking commerical gain. Bethesda can't go after you either, you just have the files, you didn't break their tos by selling mods, in fact you didn't have to accept the terms at all just to use it.

So please tell me who you think can take action in this scenario

 

[Wayward|Wind]

Um citation? What Eula do you think you're breaking?

The EULA (End User Licensing Agreement) that every user must AGREE to before the

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will install, states the following under section 1 D (orange text emphasis mine)

D. No Fees for Use. In exchange for the Editor being provided to you free of charge, You agree that You will not charge or require, directly or indirectly, a fee or other consideration for others to download, install or use Your Game Mods, including without limitation selling, licensing or other commercial distribution or commercial exploitation (e.g., by renting, licensing, sublicensing, leasing, disseminating, uploading, downloading, transmitting, whether on a pay-per-play basis or otherwise) of any Game Mods without the express prior written consent of an authorized representative of ZeniMax. This includes distributing a Game Mods as part of any compilation You and/or other users may create. You further agree not to charge, accept or solicit, directly or indirectly, fees or non-monetary contributions for developing or creating Game Mods, including without limitation fees collected through "crowd funding." However, the foregoing limitations in this Section shall not apply if and to the extent such agreement violates applicable law. You further agree that You are only permitted to distribute the Game Mods to users who have purchased the Product through authorized and legitimate distribution channels, solely for use with such users’ own authorized copies of such Product and in accordance with and subject to the terms and conditions of this Agreement and all applicable laws.

Patreon's terms of use are not relevant to this discussion. The agreement is between the mod author (presumably the person who installed the Creation Kit) and Zenimax, parent of Bethesda Softworks. These restrictions ensure that Zenimax and its subsidiaries (e.g. Bethesda Softworks, Bethesda Game Studios) can use, license and sell mods made by people who use the Creation Kit which is made freely available to all users. Anyone charging money for game mods on Patreon or any other service without written consent from Zenimax is potentially violating the EULA for the Creation Kit.

 

[animetiddyenthusiast]

Uploading MCO latest versions here since modding guild decided to break up with the only two people making anything and nuked all the files. They may be on nexus later but for now limited to discord. You will also need the universal dll for AE on nexus.

The EULA (End User Licensing Agreement) that every user must AGREE to before the

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will install, states the following under section 1 D (orange text emphasis mine)

D. No Fees for Use. In exchange for the Editor being provided to you free of charge, You agree that You will not charge or require, directly or indirectly, a fee or other consideration for others to download, install or use Your Game Mods, including without limitation selling, licensing or other commercial distribution or commercial exploitation (e.g., by renting, licensing, sublicensing, leasing, disseminating, uploading, downloading, transmitting, whether on a pay-per-play basis or otherwise) of any Game Mods without the express prior written consent of an authorized representative of ZeniMax. This includes distributing a Game Mods as part of any compilation You and/or other users may create. You further agree not to charge, accept or solicit, directly or indirectly, fees or non-monetary contributions for developing or creating Game Mods, including without limitation fees collected through "crowd funding." However, the foregoing limitations in this Section shall not apply if and to the extent such agreement violates applicable law. You further agree that You are only permitted to distribute the Game Mods to users who have purchased the Product through authorized and legitimate distribution channels, solely for use with such users’ own authorized copies of such Product and in accordance with and subject to the terms and conditions of this Agreement and all applicable laws.

Patreon's terms of use are not relevant to this discussion. The agreement is between the mod author (presumably the person who installed the Creation Kit) and Zenimax, parent of Bethesda Softworks. These restrictions ensure that Zenimax and its subsidiaries (e.g. Bethesda Softworks, Bethesda Game Studios) can use, license and sell mods made by people who use the Creation Kit which is made freely available to all users. Anyone charging money for game mods on Patreon or any other service without written consent from Zenimax is potentially violating the EULA for the Creation Kit.

correct, that is why patreon paywalling is a violation, that does not answer why the other guy thinks its illegal to pirate such mods which can be done without ever accepting the license.

 

[unknown.smurf.01]

why the other guy thinks its illegal to pirate such mods

Because they contain resources that are clearly not made in Creation Kit, this means they are out of Creation Kit EULA. Any meshes, textures, animations, DLL mods can be paywalled and pirating them is a real piracy. For authors this is not very different from selling their works on Sketchfab and such. We can complain only about ESX plugins but they are the least we care about here, don't we?

TL;DR
1. Authors violate CK EULA when they sell ESX plugins.
2. We violate authors rights when we share paid assets.
3. The first cannot be used to justify the second.
4. We should not care about this shit anyway.

 

[friendofbob]

Does anyone have the mod [YoerkSun] Magic Moon Patreon Version
(an old version. the new version the skirt has the wrong texture...)

 

[fuchs11]

Anub got banned from pixiv and is now only here on subscribestar, also March animation is delayed. I feel like supporting the guy with as he's one providing quality animations

 

[JoWalker09]

Any meshes, textures, animations, DLL mods can be paywalled and pirating them is a real piracy.

Not any. Some authors take other people's work from other games, port it to Skyrim, and lock it behind a paywall (Kirax, Lilyrim, SavrenX.... are the first ones I remember). Yeah, it's not Bethesda's problem, but it's still a violation by these greedy modders

 

[Boreale]

2. We violate authors rights when we share paid assets.

They dont have any rights to begin with, stop gaslighting us u mental midget.

 

[Dazers]

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Looking for the latest version of Lovemaking Compendium if anyone has it!
Thx

 

[grumpy nog]

They dont have any rights to begin with, stop gaslighting us u mental midget.

reminding people that they are thieves makes upset only hypocrites
(c) Sokrates

 

[grumpy nog]

Not any. Some authors take other people's work from other games, port it to Skyrim, and lock it behind a paywall (Kirax, Lilyrim, SavrenX.... are the first ones I remember). Yeah, it's not Bethesda's problem, but it's still a violation by these greedy modders

This "others people's work" are being locked behind paywall too. Purchase game and get armor.
But maybe, if I was getting all my games from F59 and torrent sites for free, I'd would be upset at greedy modders, too.

 

[JoWalker09]

This "others people's work" are being locked behind paywall too. Purchase game and get armor.

So? Does that lessen their guilt or what? These costumes were made for specific games (and btw, many companies forbid porting their assets to other games), not for some random prick to make money off of them

 

[GizmoAU]

Lovemaking Compendium 1.7 for OStim Standalone
Night-blooming Violets 1.5 for OStim Standalone
Follower Dialogue Expansion Aela the Huntress
Follower Dialogue Expansion Mjoll the Lioness
Follower Dialogue Expansion Mjoll the Lioness - Auri Banter
Thieves Guild Alternative Endings
Follower Dialogue Expansion Jordis the Sword-Maiden

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Follower Dialog Expansion Lydia

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[degenerate28]

Lovemaking Compendium 1.7 for OStim Standalone
Night-blooming Violets 1.5 for OStim Standalone
Follower Dialogue Expansion Aela the Huntress
Follower Dialogue Expansion Mjoll the Lioness
Follower Dialogue Expansion Mjoll the Lioness - Auri Banter
Thieves Guild Alternative Endings
Follower Dialogue Expansion Jordis the Sword-Maiden

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Yooooooooo you are a gift!

 

[Dazers]

Lovemaking Compendium 1.7 for OStim Standalone
Night-blooming Violets 1.5 for OStim Standalone
Follower Dialogue Expansion Aela the Huntress
Follower Dialogue Expansion Mjoll the Lioness
Follower Dialogue Expansion Mjoll the Lioness - Auri Banter
Thieves Guild Alternative Endings
Follower Dialogue Expansion Jordis the Sword-Maiden

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Kingly.

 

[Klapbackmap]

Does anyone have by any chance.
Lazzman's Female Outfit Replacer - UNP or BHUNP if available
Northern Farmhouses - the original mod.
Yashira Redguard Follower

 

[MrFreyZ]

Thank you GizmoAU for the links.
As popular they could be, I don't like these "Follower Dialogue Expansion". They don't add anything substantial to the game and some times the dialogue reactions are not well thought. A mod like "Serana Dialogue Addon" contain a lot of talk ... talk but no quest nothing important that add some lore expansion to the game.

 

[DizzyFocus]

Does anyone have by any chance.
Lazzman's Female Outfit Replacer - UNP or BHUNP if available
Northern Farmhouses - the original mod.
Yashira Redguard Follower

This one?

Northern Farmhouses - Non Parallax Version

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Northern Farmhouses - Parallax Version

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[TheBeeMan]

Still looking for

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OA3PP 1.19