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He probably burn out with writing multiple storyline and trying woving into singular timeline.
He knows how to create storylines and weave them.
It's just that Sleepy didn't calculate the narrative dynamics.
It so happened that all the works simultaneously fell into the "eye of the storm" plot. It seems that something is being drawn, but the plot has been completely calm for years.

Perhaps you can see from my comment that my interest in Sleepy's work has cooled.
I'm not building theories anymore, I'm not trying to engage in dialogues, and I haven't even published much in the last month.
I just realized that with such dynamics, I won't get answers to my questions in 10+ years... Or never.
Chemical cupid killed the interest especially unpleasantly.
I realized that this is really a magic wand for the author, so that you can not radically change the plot, endlessly roll back the story to its original ...
And therefore, you can stand still indefinitely.
 
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All right. For many readers, "Violet White Meanwhile in Violet's Dungeon" has become a watershed between "before" and "after".
This story has completely changed the rather light attitude towards what is happening in Sleepy's works.
As far as I know, even many subscribers were unhappy with what was happening with "Country Girl"



And this is already inevitable. He dived deep enough to develop and deepen the plot, adding to it a lot of unspoken hints.
Even though I'm not a subscriber, I'd also like to get an answer to a lot of questions:
The secrets of the Le feu family.
Does magic exist or not?
Whether Le fey was involved in the death of Nancy's mother.
Is everything that happens in the slave dungeons with Carmilla's approval, or is it Evelyn's personal antics?
How widespread is the "tea club" within the leadership positions of crystal City?
This is Violet's background
Will anyone be able to resist the Bitch Tandem and reverse the concept of "Evelyn wins"?
So on and on...
so if he suddenly returns to drawing "just porn stories", abandoning all of the above...
well, that will be my biggest disappointment in the last few years.
If Sleepy now tries to return to the path of simplification by drawing a fairly "flat" content again, I think many subscribers will unsubscribe.

You're right — I was mistaken in attributing the current difficulties with Sleep’s work to the interconnectedness of the stories.

Dungeon was a turning point, I agree, but Pam too was a darker departure from previous concepts. Both works were a shift from the earlier “capture and release” motif which had been implied or hinted at up to then, shifting instead toward something more unsettling.

I would argue that Sleepy’s work has always included a built-in ‘reset’ mechanism. Hypnosis and mind control have been part of the lore from the very beginning, contributing to its cartoony and light tone. The things done to Nancy and others never seemed to have lasting consequences — at least within the more playful feel of the earlier works.
 
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Dungeon was a turning point, I agree, but Pam too was a darker departure from previous concepts. Both works were a shift from the earlier “capture and release” motif which had been implied or hinted at up to then, shifting instead toward something more unsettling.
This was probably done in order to prepare us for the appearance of such a concept as the slave market in the stories.
And the fact that everything that happens in the story is not just the antics of two women who are besotted with money and impunity.
Which brings us back to the fact that Sleepy is able to create long stories.


I would argue that Sleepy’s work has always included a built-in ‘reset’ mechanism. Hypnosis and mind control have been part of the lore from the very beginning, contributing to its cartoony and light tone. The things done to Nancy and others never seemed to have lasting consequences — at least within the more playful feel of the earlier works.
That's right, there has always been such a "rollback" concept. But it was an easy narrative. Where the victim didn't have the consequences of playing the Bitch Tandem.
But it is the gradual increasing gloom of the story, coupled with the introduction of an ultimatum "chemical cupid" into the story, which gives the Bitch Tandem even more impunity, that generates the discontent of many readers.
It's frankly unpleasant to look at what's going on, with Pam ...

I understand that Sleepy most likely has a plot move planned for at least the same "country girl".
So everyone's asking who's going to be the next candidate to stand up to the Bitch Tandem, now that Trixie's out?
It seems to me that Sarah Meyers is the perfect candidate to deliver a crushing blow to the center of this whole story.
It's hard to overestimate how angry and motivated she must be right now.
There must be some kind of endgame in her story...
considering that there has been information that the work of "The Monastery" is a prophetic work of what awaits Evelyn in the future. (I'm not sure if this is true)
Locking her up in a monastery for many years.
This story has to end somehow.

P.S.
It's funny by the way, Sleep is constantly fighting for the "Sexiness" of its content.
He even canceled some jobs if it seemed to him that where she was going did not meet this criterion enough.
Moreover, I can say for sure that "to Break a Thief" in my opinion has no "Sexuality" at all. Starting from page 15, it just isn't there.
Wouldn't it happen that after coming off vacation, he would just cancel this job?
Well, or at least rewrite it.

Although I still think that he doesn't need to rewrite anything, it's enough to increase the pace/ dynamics of individual work and everything will return to normal.
He sprayed too many stories at the same time, as a result, the plot moved like a turtle under sedation.
 
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The only way I see to fix To Break a Thief is if Nancy shows up to save the day (for once), like Trixie hasn't revealed all her secrets yet and still has Nancy as a trump card if anything goes south (like disappearing for certain amount of time, not responding to her texts, their own code, etc) other than that, there's no fix. Heck, things are so grim it looks like Vi is about to execute her or something.

But like I said, Nancy nowadays it's like a hamster, run on wheels, falls out, ride off into the sunset, she's clearly and unfortunately not the focus anymore.
 

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The only way I see to fix To Break a Thief is if Nancy shows up to save the day (for once), like Trixie hasn't revealed all her secrets yet and still has Nancy as a trump card if anything goes south (like disappearing for certain amount of time, not responding to her texts, their own code, etc) other than that, there's no fix. Heck, things are so grim it looks like Vi is about to execute her or something.

But like I said, Nancy nowadays it's like a hamster, run on wheels, falls out, ride off into the sunset, she's clearly and unfortunately not the focus anymore.
Last week and elsewhere, in reply to someone asking how To Break a Thief could end in a surprising way, I wrote:

Much to everyone's surprise, Nancy appears and rescues Trixie, and there is a touching reconciliation between the girls (did you see what I did there?). They set out to take Evie and Vi down together. However, unbeknownst to them, they have both been hypnotised/brainwashed and are never able to pull this off. Evie has deliberately allowed the two to escape so that Trixie can join Nancy in her inept and continuously thwarted adventures against Evie and Vi.
Sleepy could even have Vi allow the girls to rescue Country Girl and Pam (who have both been brainwashed and largely oblivious to what has happened to them) and start the whole cycle all over again with new victims.
 
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I just read on a Reddit comment that Sleepy mentioned he's taking a sabbatical year? Is that true? His Subscriberstar is not up?
That's not (taking a year off) what he said on his Subscribestar statement, but he did specifically say that he wasn't committing to a particular date for returning. It's true that Patreon and then Subscribestar gave him a hot and cold running money faucet for a good few years. He was making really good money, month in, month out. I should think he can well afford to take a year or more off.
 
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but he did specifically say that he wasn't committing to a particular date for returning.
Oh wow, alright. Thanks for the correction. It just surprised me after the February update. Funny, I had next week off and wanted to subscribe to get the archive and update the collection hahaha

Anyway, hope the man (?) gets a good rest and that he returns in full swing.
 

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Looks like Sleepy has taken his Subscribestar page down completely. That's not a good sign.

It increasingly looks like something more serious and/or long term has happened, beyond what sleepy alluded to in his statement.
Not only has he closed his subscribestar but he has also been deleting posts on his Twitter since before he announced his "vacation." :eek::eek::unsure:
 

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Looks like Sleepy has taken his Subscribestar page down completely. That's not a good sign.

It increasingly looks like something more serious and/or long term has happened, beyond what sleepy alluded to in his statement.
Hmm... admittedly, this is not the news that I expected.
The sleep campaign is not "tired", but burned out...
Damn, why do people in the West constantly do "this way"?
Without explanation, without ads.
Then the owner of the 8muses website demolishes everything without warning
Now sleep is self-deleting from the Internet...

One can only hope that "this" is a very "long sabbatical."..

Fuck...:mad:

P.S. I hope someone managed to download the latest image of "Family Values"?
Well, gentlemen, if someone has something left, do not hesitate, now for sure no one will ban...
 
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