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- Nafany -

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There is no vision on the development of the sub character of Freddie.
And he can't have any character development, because of the too dense time gap in Family Values.
From part 1 to 8, it took just over 3 weeks.

Another thing is what will happen to Freddie in the future?
Let's think about it, from the possible to the impossible.:
1) At the end of the 10th part of the Family Values, Freddie's memory of all the "nuances" of the La Fay family will be completely erased, through the "chemical cupid", or a deep hypnosis session from Carmilla.
We'll see him packing up and leaving the estate with Aunt Carmilla. He doesn't appear in the story anymore.

2) There will be a deeper reversal of the concept of "Family Values" ... From the banal incest, a broader understanding of this name.
Where is Freddie, they will begin to explain and talk about all the subtleties of their family's life.
Suppose Evelyn and Carmilla go into armed neutrality, where Carmilla washes her hands of all Evelyn's antics, but in retaliation forces her to bring Freddie up to date with the entire female part of his family...
Arguing: Since you dragged him into all this, you're the one to deal with it now!

3) Something can go wrong, with such intensive use of "chemical cupid" and other "sedatives", and Freddie may begin to have irreversible consequences in the brain (like Nancy ...) and after some time inside the SG universe, we will see a slightly more adult Freddie with an empty look at washing the floors together with Leopold.

4) Freddy may still be an important component in some witch ritual for Carmilla. (that's why he's so innocent)

5) Freddy's arrival at the mansion may be Carmilla's plan to cross 2 bloodlines: La Fay and Pendragon, (Freddy and Nancy) to conceive a super-powerful witch and then transfer Carmilla's soul into this baby... (we recall that Mircalla from "Brood of Evil" is an anagram of Carmilla's name)

In general, choose what you like best...
 
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taliazer

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Hello everyone! I was a middle tier supporter all last year and I know about the break. I'm wondering where did his work go? Is Piracy the only way to read it nowadays? Also I now have 15$ a month more to spend on (nsfw) artists. Is there an artist out there worth of it and with similar fetishes in their drawings like SPG (feet and anal mainly)?
Or a copy cat like a serial killer would have of sleepy gimp aha
 

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Hello everyone! I was a middle tier supporter all last year and I know about the break. I'm wondering where did his work go? Is Piracy the only way to read it nowadays? Also I now have 15$ a month more to spend on (nsfw) artists. Is there an artist out there worth of it and with similar fetishes in their drawings like SPG (feet and anal mainly)?
Or a copy cat like a serial killer would have of sleepy gimp aha
I welcome you.
Yes, SleepyGimp has closed the page on the site to non-subscribers from viewing.
And yes, if you haven't saved his work on your personal computer/cloud or any other information storage service, then you can only view his work on pirated sites.
But keep in mind, the content of the last month before the vacation did not appear online.
He will return from vacation presumably in June - July...

As for your other question about a similar author, well, as far as I know, there is no such thing.
Well, try to get acquainted with these:
cherry mouse street
romulo mancin

They have a large pool of works related to a common plot.
 
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Ernst84

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1) Carmilla will not appear to punish Evie.
2) Freddie will remain submissive to Evie.
3) The relationship between Evelyn and Violet will non be altered.

The only "mistery" is WHY during the party Freddie is tied to a bed in a secret room, if he is totally under the control of Evelyn. :unsure:
Right, why is Freddie tied. This makes your assumptions to questionable statements.
1) Carmilla did appear tying down Eve but let go for Eve's pursuit of Trixie. Who tells she is finished?
2) Freddie is just starting his kinky experience. He is inexperienced. So in my opinion the next level is a switch.
I could also envision him and Trixie and Nancy to develop new scenarios.
3) Evie and Vi, agree. But this is a source for new plots with PAM, CG, Park and hopefully the Barista.

This would split the fan base in the Nancy and in the Evie team with occasional cross overs.
Remember Sleepy is still short on his foot fetishist topic.
In the combination of Nancy, Evie and Vi this will be difficult to bring in.
 

Ernst84

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Exactly, diminishing Trixie to a Gimp or Slave would be absolute the downfall (though its kinda on a huge decline already) of Sleepy's stories.

We follow superheroes movies because there's the good and the bad, more often than not I want the evil to triumph, but here is the opposite, the evil is the law, and Trixie and (the late) Nancy used to oppose them, heck, Park became a puppet in a finger snap, she would be an interesting minor character, but that one it's literally dead and buried pretty much.

You know what it looks like? That Sleepy loves Evelina so much (Sleepy Simp?), he forgets to bring a new dynamic now and then, so Evelina always wins. Oh, if there's one character he absolutely hates, that's hands down the great Seline.
Right!
We need a strong Trixie, but I don't know if this can work through the "Tea Party" at Aunt Carmillas level or if this is already a betrayal to Trixie's role a Evie's counterpart. Otherwise freeing Trixie needs a miracle.
Selene could come in and re-baseline the whole story. This is too wired.
Freddie could drop in freeing himself and Trixie from Evie. But this is not enough, if everybody knows who the enemy is.

Bottom line we need a solution to free Trixie, while keep her opponent to Evie.
Blackmail may help to keep her evidence worthless.
But we also need to delete the memory of the "Tea Party" about Trixie or cherish her over Evie, which doesn't make any sense.
 

Ernst84

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Moreover, it's still unclear the role of some potential "competitors" of the Bitch Tandem, like the great Selene or the indian girls of the Yoga Center (does Evie aware of them? Are them secretly allies, or do they work "indipendently"?:unsure:), and yes, also miss Park. Each of them somehow involved in mind control. Sometimes they fight each other (and the loser turns from predator to victim), but there's never a classic "Good vs. Evil" fight, I mean someone to cheer for and someone else to hope will be punished in the end.
Yes, good analyses.
And often you can develop the plot between innocent, evil and bad. But here we have no differentiation between Carmilla, Selene, Yoga, Evie and Park with her Asian On-Line Back-Up that never was developed.

Carmilla is part of Bad, since she trained Evie. She is the link to Sleepy's hidden agenda of foot lovers. But this is never developed. In regards to hypnoses I understand that Selene is the master followed by Carmilla and Evie. I don't know where to put the Yoga girls or if this is rather drug influenced.

How can this be used to bail out Trixie?
 

Ernst84

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1) At the end of the 10th part of the Family Values, Freddie's memory of all the "nuances" of the La Fay family will be completely erased, through the "chemical cupid", or a deep hypnosis session from Carmilla.
We'll see him packing up and leaving the estate with Aunt Carmilla. He doesn't appear in the story anymore.

2) There will be a deeper reversal of the concept of "Family Values" ... From the banal incest, a broader understanding of this name.
Where is Freddie, they will begin to explain and talk about all the subtleties of their family's life.
Suppose Evelyn and Carmilla go into armed neutrality, where Carmilla washes her hands of all Evelyn's antics, but in retaliation forces her to bring Freddie up to date with the entire female part of his family...
Arguing: Since you dragged him into all this, you're the one to deal with it now!

3) Something can go wrong, with such intensive use of "chemical cupid" and other "sedatives", and Freddie may begin to have irreversible consequences in the brain (like Nancy ...) and after some time inside the SG universe, we will see a slightly more adult Freddie with an empty look at washing the floors together with Leopold.

4) Freddy may still be an important component in some witch ritual for Carmilla. (that's why he's so innocent)

5) Freddy's arrival at the mansion may be Carmilla's plan to cross 2 bloodlines: La Fay and Pendragon, (Freddy and Nancy) to conceive a super-powerful witch and then transfer Carmilla's soul into this baby... (we recall that Mircalla from "Brood of Evil" is an anagram of Carmilla's name)
If sleepy wants to create a continuum of episodes around his main characters, he has two options: split the main characters and have them meet new people for new scenarios. Or increase the complexity of episodes by managing a growing amount of new people in your standard world of the main characters.

In the Marvel World they try the split with occasional reunifications. In Game of Thrones they let protagonists die/disappear to reduce complexity while bringing new people in.

This doesn't help at this time. Trixie may be moved out of the plot, Freddie may be moved out of the Plot, Carmilla never came in as a main figure, etc. as described in your assumptions above.

Bottom line Nancy and Freddie would tie the lose ends around Pendragon and Le Fey and Evie and Vi need an opponent like Trixie.

This leeds me back to my earlier statement: I can imagine a new roomie for Nancie. I enjoy CG getting subdued between her escape episodes. I don't see a foot fetish story fit in without Carmilla. I want to see more of the Barista, her downward spiral and at the end a rescue. Newly I would like a confrontation between bad and evil characters of Evie/Vi and Selene, Park, Carmilla...
 

gatts3

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I welcome you.
Yes, SleepyGimp has closed the page on the site to non-subscribers from viewing.
And yes, if you haven't saved his work on your personal computer/cloud or any other information storage service, then you can only view his work on pirated sites.
But keep in mind, the content of the last month before the vacation did not appear online.
He will return from vacation presumably in June - July...

As for your other question about a similar author, well, as far as I know, there is no such thing.
Well, try to get acquainted with these:
cherry mouse street
romulo mancin

They have a large pool of works related to a common plot.
Did he say he would be back soon? The Cherry Mouse Street stories are good, they have a lot of humor, but they don't have many sex scenes. Take the most recent story, The Mexican Job, it has 40 pages and only 8 of sex!
 

- Nafany -

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Did he say he would be back soon?
Officially, the date of his release from vacation is unknown.
The fact that the site says May 31st is just that the site has automatically extended the date.
As it is, it could be June...
or August...
or September...
or go to hell.... Until next year.
Who will understand these creative people?
 

cicisaur

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Small clarification:
Aunt Carmilla is named after the first literary vampire, the protagonist of the short story Carmilla written in 1872 by Sheridan Le Fanu.
Carmilla is the name of the vampire Mircalla and also goes by the name Millarca.
 
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Officially, the date of his release from vacation is unknown.
The fact that the site says May 31st is just that the site has automatically extended the date.
As it is, it could be June...
or August...
or September...
or go to hell.... Until next year.
Who will understand these creative people?
I think we shouldn't be saying/promising that one day Sleepy will come back, he never promised, right? Maybe this is it, we should say "he's on indefinite hiatus" or the good old "he went to buy cigarettes", I think neither of us should expect his return, especially if his page it's only available for whoever was a subscriber at that time.
 
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- Nafany -

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Greet you.

I think we shouldn't be saying/promising that one day Sleepy will come back, he never promised, right?
Why such thoughts?
You know, his bank account speaks louder than his words about the return, and on average those conditional $40,000 are credited to his account every month.

Maybe this is it, we should say "he's on indefinite hiatus" or the good old "he went to buy cigarettes", I think neither of us should expect his return, especially if his page it's only available for whoever was a subscriber at that time.
I must say that you have a very fatalistic view.
It's only been 2 months since he went on vacation. There is at least another 1 month of official vacation ahead.

Or are you just asking a general question: is it possible that he won't return to drawing?
Well, frankly, it's very unlikely...
 
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Longmire

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Greet you.


Why such thoughts?
You know, his bank account speaks louder than his words about the return, and on average those conditional $40,000 are credited to his account every month.


I must say that you have a very fatalistic view.
It's only been 2 months since he went on vacation. There is at least another 1 month of official vacation ahead.

Or are you just asking a general question: is it possible that he won't return to drawing?
Well, frankly, it's very unlikely...
Hate to tell you this but it is not unprecedented for a Patreon artist to go on break and never come back. There have been plenty who have either gone on break and not come back or gone on break and returned with a drastically cut down output. I think "IF" Sleepy does come back, he will reduce his output drastically. If he really is done, then I hope he at least returns to finish the unfinished comics and then pulls the pin.
 

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It's a shame that I won't be able to see the last pages of family values
Don't lose hope. For now, we're just guessing. He was chasing a heel and decided to take a break.

After he returns, nothing will be the same, but that's another story...
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Cheers
 

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Great!

Hate to tell you this but it is not unprecedented for a Patreon artist to go on break and never come back. There have been plenty who have either gone on break and not come back or gone on break and returned with a drastically cut down output.
This is not new to me.
Although I specialize more in literary authors, it's not uncommon for them
to take a short break and then disappear without any explanation...

That's exactly what "without explanation" infuriates the most! Is it really that hard to go out to your community and explain the situation?..

But still, returning to our situation, I am surprised at the panic that has begun, both here and on Reddit and discord!
It's only been 2 months, and people are already having some kind of panic!
Sleepy specifically designated a vacation of 3 to 4 months with a possible increase of like a maximum of 2 months, not even half of the official vacation period has passed.
Sleepy has been working without interruptions for more than 8 years! Give the person a break.

If he doesn't come back by August... then you can panic! (y)

I think "IF" Sleepy does come back, he will reduce his output drastically. If he really is done, then I hope he at least returns to finish the unfinished comics and then pulls the pin.
This was the topic of conversation even before he went on vacation: that he had clearly been on deadline for the last two years, there were too many projects at the same time.
Due to the number of projects, the overall narrative line began to slow down.
No doubt, when he returns, at least the layout of the material will be reviewed, and some projects will probably fall under the knife.

In general, I have a question: why is there a panic everywhere that he won't come back?
Is someone purposefully throwing in this narrative?
Or is there some kind of inclusive information among subscribers?

It's a shame that I won't be able to see the last pages of family values
Similarly.

I've lost all my content sources in the last 2 months, except for discord.

Therefore, we also have a question at stake: when will Sleepy return?.. Where can I find content to post on this forum?
Won't we find ourselves in a situation where he will be painting for a certain number of months, and we on this forum will only experience inner joy for him! :ROFLMAO:
 

Longmire

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It's a shame that I won't be able to see the last pages of family values
From the last panel seen here where Violet forces the Putz to fuck Evie in the ass while eating Violet out, next panel has Violet position herself so she can bury Evie's face in her pussy and smack Putz in the face to make him keep fucking the shit out of Evie's ass, telling her that she won't let Putz stop until she releases him from the mental block preventing him from cumming. Evie can't take it anymore so she tells Putz to cum in her via hypnotic suggestion, then it is all over. Last panels show Violet and Evie in bed, Violet asleep and Evie awake, still horny with an ice pack between her ass cheeks because of the drug she used being more powerful then she anticipated. Violet says no to sex, says she is exhausted and goes back to sleep. Evie gets up, sexually frustrated and goes to see what Putz is up to. Putz is packing his gear and is pissed off at being manipulated and pegged by Violet. Evie reminds him of how awesome the 3some was and he should be thankful, Putz gets angry, slams his hands against the wall besides Evie's head, they have some weird moment (The panel shows the words Tum tum tum tum all around them whatever that is meant to be?? Heart beat perhaps?), their eyes go funny and they both make out and that ends Family Values and leads into Midsummers night ball.

And before I am asked for the panels, no can do. They are not mine to share.
 

Kacap

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Thank you.
The description is so precise I don't need to see it ;)
If I understood correctly Freddie has been released from all the hypnotic ... daze.
It makes things interesting.
So maybe you have seen missing three panels from TBtT? (Evelyn is looking for the lube). If you don't mind... ;)

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Free Trixie
Cheers
 

Greviusdartan

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From the last panel seen here where Violet forces the Putz to fuck Evie in the ass while eating Violet out, next panel has Violet position herself so she can bury Evie's face in her pussy and smack Putz in the face to make him keep fucking the shit out of Evie's ass, telling her that she won't let Putz stop until she releases him from the mental block preventing him from cumming. Evie can't take it anymore so she tells Putz to cum in her via hypnotic suggestion, then it is all over. Last panels show Violet and Evie in bed, Violet asleep and Evie awake, still horny with an ice pack between her ass cheeks because of the drug she used being more powerful then she anticipated. Violet says no to sex, says she is exhausted and goes back to sleep. Evie gets up, sexually frustrated and goes to see what Putz is up to. Putz is packing his gear and is pissed off at being manipulated and pegged by Violet. Evie reminds him of how awesome the 3some was and he should be thankful, Putz gets angry, slams his hands against the wall besides Evie's head, they have some weird moment (The panel shows the words Tum tum tum tum all around them whatever that is meant to be?? Heart beat perhaps?), their eyes go funny and they both make out and that ends Family Values and leads into Midsummers night ball.

And before I am asked for the panels, no can do. They are not mine to share.
Two questions: 1. I understand that most of the content Sleepy released before going on vacation was lost. Some subscribers couldn't download it in time, and others are saving it for fear that Sleepy might catch them when he returns. ∆ Was all the subscriber content deleted or hidden so it couldn't be downloaded?
2. According to what I'd read, Sleepy was going to do up to the 9th "edition" of Family Values and another one about Trixie (Thief). (I don't know if you were subscribed before he left.) But my question is, ∆ was it confirmed that it would end in the 9th, or was that false? Because he was behind on the story and the Break a Thief thing.
 

Greviusdartan

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Hate to tell you this but it is not unprecedented for a Patreon artist to go on break and never come back. There have been plenty who have either gone on break and not come back or gone on break and returned with a drastically cut down output. I think "IF" Sleepy does come back, he will reduce his output drastically. If he really is done, then I hope he at least returns to finish the unfinished comics and then pulls the pin.
What happened was that he got saturated, tried to do too many stories at once, had problems with the pages that came out, which were too few, the story stagnated or did not satisfy the subscribers.
If Sleepy comes back, he should change his organization or optimize it, I think he should, as I said before in this forum, focus on one story and release more chapters. I like the poll winners and the specials make them interesting, although most are not canon.
For example: Nancy Templeton 10 to 12 pages per month, in 3 months (between 30 or 36) pages if she wants to extend it more, add a month (40 to 46) and then start another story and the same, in a year she finishes 3 or 4 stories instead of 1 story that lasts 1 and months.
(warning, I speak from absolute ignorance and I do not know how Sleepy works or manages his content). In case there is a subscriber who accuses me of being a pirate xd.
 
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