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So, why the hate on NTR?

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Just asking any groundbreaking new information or theory in the 369 post before this, that I should be aware or just the regular stuff you already see in the dozen of others "NTR blah blah" threads?
Short version was there are several reasons why people hate NTR, so far the leading thoughts I can recall were

1) It is a very easy concept to understand (i.e. betrayal is a very real and commonly felt emotion) so cuts closer to the bone than other fantasies
2) It is the kink that other kinks have decided to look down upon ('at least i am not a cuck')
3) Insecurities in some people cause them to overcompensate
Edit: 4) it can significantly change the tone of a game & become a key part of it (i.e. take it over)
Edit: 5) dxf2 believes there is a global conspiracy weaponizing anime waifus cheating with specific racial demographics

Not everyone hates it for the same reason, and some for a combination.

I feel i forgot another reason, will edit if I remember it.
 
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I apologize in advance for going full Morado on this one.

When men went to war frequently what did the women do? Perhaps they raised a family?
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Prior to the war, in 1940, women made up approximately 27% of the U.S. workforce. By 1945, this figure had risen to nearly 37%, with about 19 million women employed, accounting for over one-third of the civilian labor force. This surge included over 6 million women who took on wartime jobs in factories, producing essential military equipment.
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In fact birth rates prior to WW2 averaged around 5 kids a family for most Europeans and Americans.
Statement is wrong in both directions. First, your timeline is off. Second, at no point was it 5 kids per family, it was either more or less. And it wasn't the war that was the catalyst for the greatest change, it was the great depression. Prior to 1900 it was roughly 7 children per woman. By 1900, the average had dropped to approximately 3.6 children per woman. During the 1930s, the Great Depression, the total fertility rate (TFR) further decreased to about 2.2 children per woman.


Like a lot of the Global South today, it has far more religion. Is it oppression. In whose eyes. Some because there might be some improvement. But not to Western madness today. Religion shaping community and in keeping purity, laws, virtue, oaths, and providing status. If we go back in time, there were perhaps more or less kids per family. Because pregnancy was a killer. But the family unit throughout history is how society formed and it wasn't a curse until today. Where it has been decimated into the least home ownership per family in history in the Western World. The least matrimony longevity, marriage lasts on average 3 years today, families have on average 1, or less, or slightly more than 1 kid per family in the Western World.
The above is just word salad. There's nothing to really debate there, it's like you just vomited words in an attempt to make sentences and it didn't work out for you. I did shade one true statement in green even though it didn't have a point to go with it. I will say it wasn't the reason for less kids, it was the reason they had more kids. The higher the rate of infant mortality the higher the attempts at having children. This is true for almost every culture. The green shading was also less true by the 60s and became even less true every year since then.

You sit there spewing it was because women were oppressed, they were property?
Women were property. The Rule of thumb was an actual thing, look it up. Women couldn't vote until 1920 in the US. (Later in France). Women couldn't open a bank account until 1974. Married women couldn't use birth control until 1965, unmarried until 1972. Equal education access, 1972. Equal employment, 1964 (Still being disputed in courts in many states). Women weren't allowed federally protected maternity leave until...THEY'RE STILL NOT ALLOWED FEDERALLY.

Edit: Fixed a run on sentence.
 
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When men went to war frequently what did the women do? Perhaps they raised a family?
Prior to the war, in 1940
Further to your point & to add a broader scope - for a majority of history spouses generally became camp followers following their partner throughout their campaign in no small part because surviving apart from your partner was extremely difficult. They were a dependent.
 
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oh, the horror

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Methinks you missed the point

Not being allowed to have a bank account is crippling. You have 0 independence. Cant get loans, cant do anything within a society. Your Husband had complete control. Which if he was a great guy was a functional system, but there were plenty of abusive assholes exploiting this set up. If a women wanted to leave she had nowhere to go, no money, and a society that didn't want to give her a job & looked down on her for wanting to leave a marriage.

I occasionally have the habit to write here as well, but its good to keep in mind that this is a leftist woke male feminist bubble, mostly consisting of brainwashed cucks that love to be ordered around by their wives. Don't expect any sane responses.
The problem is fucking morons confusing modern day feminism (which some see as a revenge/superiority movent) with the initial waves of feminism, which were very, very justified (an equality movement). Many feminists no longer identify with the feminist movement because it has moved away from its equality origins.
 
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I'm not sure how you do it, but every single time I've ever seen you post my eyes try to roll out of my head.

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Oh, you found photos of all 6 of them.

And you think this would be an improvement for women, of course.

lol male feminists

Not being allowed to have a bank account is crippling. You have 0 independence. Cant get loans, cant do anything within a society. Your Husband had complete control. Which if he was a great guy was a functional system, but there were plenty of abusive assholes exploiting this set up. If a women wanted to leave she had nowhere to go, no money, and a society that didn't want to give her a job & looked down on her for wanting to leave a marriage.
Based.

The problem is fucking morons confusing modern day feminism (which some see as a revenge/superiority movent) with the initial waves of feminism, which were very, very justified (an equality movement). Many feminists no longer identify with the feminist movement because it has moved away from its equality origins.
I talk about initial feminism.
 

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Oh, you found photos of all 6 of them.

And you think this would be an improvement for women, of course.

lol male feminists
What's better for them is their ability to choose, not have it chosen for them. Or would you argue with that?

I'm not a feminist in any way shape or form, I'm just not a zealot who thinks women would be better off as pets.
 

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I don't steal, I don't kill, I don't use and abuse alcohol/drugs till I pass out, I don't have a a hookup that I regret, I'm healthy, have parents for an example and I live a pretty boring life for a woman. I'm proud at myself and I can't help but melt when people gave me compliments how they wish they have a daughter like me. I'm so thankful for my parents raising me the way I am.
Good. But are you content with life? Will you be when old?

Never met an old childless atheist woman that was not miserable.

What future? Dominatrix exists and I wouldn't be surprised if Andrew Tate/Joe Reagan have one.
Indeed. The future is now. Although amplified by media.

If you mean Rogan, he's a leftist. Tate is a half black trans jew who said a lot of good things until his assets where seized by globo homo. Controled opposition since then.

The meme speaks about the preferred relationship dynamic of the average progressive man, though.
 

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What's better for them is their ability to choose, not have it chosen for them. Or would you argue with that?

I'm not a feminist in any way shape or form, I'm just not a zealot who thinks women would be better off as pets.
It's like giving people the choice to consume crack. Just with worse results for society, men, and women.

Women were better off as property. Women are mentally ill now, miserable, and hurt. And angry. Society is.
 

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It's like giving people the choice to consume crack. Just with worse results for society, men, and women.

Women were better off as property. Women are mentally ill now, miserable, and hurt. And angry. Society is.
And there you have it.