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More unbeatable? Are you talking about the version available on patreon or the f95 version? Because I made a lot, like A LOT of changes that made the game easier.
Unity Some Heroines Climb Up a Tower to Ask God Why the Game Has a Name That's So Long [v2.70] [Sinful Salad Games]
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Look, I am not here to chide you over the effort you put in this game, but honestly, it was just intolerable for me, and doubt it would be others.
Yes, I meant for the version in patreon. I wonder if it’s the incremental challenge you had mentioned before, but sincerely, it’s insufferable in game play for me now. I searched numerous strategies, on here and discord. I am aware of the mechanism, or you can judge me not, by I least knowing which skills were good enough to start, the collide damage? The combo? Purposely making one’s into sexual position for the double damage? Even that little heart exchange gadget? I don’t even wanna give further persuasion because it’s not the issue about skill here, for me it’s game itself.
The so called improvements, which I doubt since fishing I bought from front always hard to find be useful for those little pathetic amount of damage, 5? 10? A little poison? Despite love potion and that god potion I remembered? They were effective but still much of a luxury in front game, since you removed stockbro from first layer. Don’t even bring me with the clothes, on the one hand I won’t even persuade if they were in my appetite, on the other hand, the coils, never happened to earn one, since the early hours of gameplay already made me quit on getting that stuff, I wouldn’t want to find myself in future struggling with it and the rising difficulty of the game, in the fucking layer one.
You know what breaks me down the most? It is when you just started on first floor clearing leisurely, suddenly, two rolls with three straw dolls! And what’s to come? Two imps, the insanity is that there is just not enough damage to deal with all of them, not to mention the incoming one’s. Jesus, the imp I killed? The one turned into little green imp? Unbeatable because of those straw sudden emerges, I can only watch them revived in my own whine of the dilemma gaming, it is to win, or am I here to find sex? This isn’t entertainment, it’s labored, and I am tired of it.
I participated the game months ago, it was a marvelous experience, with enticing arts and the battle sex concepts, but now, you have to first admit no one wants to get stuck at first layer for hours and watching those lewd pictures which you perhaps already watched dozen of times, it wouldn’t be arousal, it would be rage.
So yes, in general, I just hope someone make another 1 hp module, so that I don’t have to suffer with the infinite torment of this thing, after hours and hours of playing really makes you almost on psychedelic, even the music are driving me nuts!
Ps, I am sending photos of my game play, just to prove I’m not horse shitting, and don’t even tell me about skill diff or whatever. I played least 20hours and above, it’s just that I often exit the game without saving. And my screenshot somehow broke, so I had to do it manually.
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- Jun 16, 2018
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you might have a bugged save where the special enemy spawns are out of control or something. 10 hours is a lot of game time so it's possible they got that high (maybe?), but my save has way more hours than yours and i'm not finding it too bad so i'd bet you're bugged. I know that was a bug that happened at some point, so depending on when you last played that could be happening.
You could delete all your data (or back it up) and see if that fixes it.
I definitely understand if starting over is not something you want to do.
As for the game being easier, I mean the mercenaries are basically free damage every turn (there's some downsides on level 2 that need fixing) and there's more boosters hidden around, also Ninja does debuffs now. Fishing can be hit or miss, but it has infinite uses (with a cooldown) and doesn't cost your resources to use.
Idk, sorry you didn't like the update though.
It is plausible, though the only place where I got bugged is once I exited and saved the game while passing through rest area in the pull shop. I have seen people with such issues, just never connected them into the elite members spawning. While yes, the mercenaries were good, that I can’t deny, I passed through first layer only twice because of that trap setting minion giving more damage and the one which blocks damage and push back. Regardless, I won‘t squander another few hours to loop the circle again. I can still see you are dedicating to make the game thrive not only in sexual contents, but also the gameplay, so good luck with them because the balance is really intricate to control to blend into good shape.
The incentive for me is to while having fun dissecting game mechanic, watching girls get fucked. But now I see only me getting fucked and stuck. Hopefully years later things will be more manageable. Right now, I just wish someone make 1 hp or full save for the new version.
Lastly, thanks for hearing my whining, hope you have grateful life somewhere.
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I've been thinking back and forth a lot about the difficulty settings in this game and I'm still very much playing the new update to try and get a feel on things. Generally, I've found my experiences are it's fairly winnable, but that's beside the point.
But one thing that could stick out to me as a solution to "how hard is this game, and are the people struggling seeing something that we aren't" other than just playing the game lots of times would be to try and tie a unique seed that the player can record to specific combinations in the run itself - e.g. what shops are availible on their run, or which minibosses they can fight, or anything like that. That way, if a player feels they are getting absolutely murdered by difficulty that feels particularly unfair or optimised to punish them, at least there's a guaranteed form of repeatability for the devs. Enter the seed, play their specific run, see what's up about it.
Of course, I also know first-hand that attaching seed generation to all types of chance-based or rng-based models can be a real bastard, but I'm just throwing it out there as if it's possible and not a huge ask in terms of implementation, it seems to be a good way to ensure everyone's speaking about the same specific "game sessions" and thus the same difficulty.
But one thing that could stick out to me as a solution to "how hard is this game, and are the people struggling seeing something that we aren't" other than just playing the game lots of times would be to try and tie a unique seed that the player can record to specific combinations in the run itself - e.g. what shops are availible on their run, or which minibosses they can fight, or anything like that. That way, if a player feels they are getting absolutely murdered by difficulty that feels particularly unfair or optimised to punish them, at least there's a guaranteed form of repeatability for the devs. Enter the seed, play their specific run, see what's up about it.
Of course, I also know first-hand that attaching seed generation to all types of chance-based or rng-based models can be a real bastard, but I'm just throwing it out there as if it's possible and not a huge ask in terms of implementation, it seems to be a good way to ensure everyone's speaking about the same specific "game sessions" and thus the same difficulty.
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Yeah I know the common complaint is high hp values on level one. And I don’t disagree.
I might make the boss minion enemies a little tougher mechanically but lower their hp. Not sure when I’ll do this but it’s been on my mind.
I might make the boss minion enemies a little tougher mechanically but lower their hp. Not sure when I’ll do this but it’s been on my mind.
- Jan 25, 2018
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The big challenge with these types of games is always how hard it is to see what the player sees. I don't blame anyone for not having like a seed system wired into the game from the start so that seed 6 = always the same enemy distribution, gold rewards, probability for item drops, etc (all the models I use at work building in seeds to always see what other people see in a run is a headache), but I don't know how else you can get around it. Without one the run you get could always just be different to the run they get, so theres' so many possibilities for what you as a designer see to min-max or manipulate mechanics that they don't (and vice versa).
Off-topic, but I kind of hope someone makes a SFW mod for this game so people can stream it the way people did with Fear and Hunger.
I just want to see how others play the game, but more importantly rage and get better.
I just want to see how others play the game, but more importantly rage and get better.
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Yeah, could call it Cat-mode, where anytime anything sexy happens it's replaced with a PNG of a cat.
Brother just wait for 5 days, update will become public
- Feb 17, 2018
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I remember Trongle said about 3 things that are secret in new update that is gonna came out and he never gonna tell about them. It's cool to have more of "What if." stuff.
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Before part 3 of the roadmap Cardinal and I might work on a mini update that adds like a lot more secret scenes in. I've got a lot of art for them made, but just haven't constucted the scenes yet. We're hoping it'll be very simple and shouldn't take very long.
I mean, it is made in unity, I don't think it'll be hard for people to find all the secrets by decompiling it if they want to.
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Every time someone uses the acronymn it takes me a second to realize what i'm looking at, haha.
Thanks for the enthusiasm! We've still got a long way to go but we aim to finish!
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The new version is out, enjoy!