Unity Some Heroines Climb Up a Tower to Ask God Why the Game Has a Name That's So Long [v2.70] [Sinful Salad Games]

[DeynanDescafeinado]

That won't be happening.
Not because I think you've got bad ideas, but because we've already made alternative solutions in the upcoming update.
Rather than decreasing the difficulty through meddling with enemy spawn rates, I am adding some more tools to help the player strategize more and increase their damage output a bit.
For those unaware, the stat system is getting a big overhaul to make it more interesting. I'm combining the recovery stat with the stamina and mind stats and using that empty 6th stat slot for a new special stat, the new stat will give:

Swordswoman - the ability to increase the amount of spaces her basic attack pushes enemies.
Ninja - will now have a chance to apply a debuff to her basic attack at the beginning of her turn (blind, sleep, or poison) (upgrading her special stat increases the odds of this occuring)
Archer - able to raise her critical hit rate.

Just the new ninja ability alone will increase the damage output of the player by quite a bit and help decrease the amount of enemies able to hit you per turn IF used wisely.

Along with this, we're also adding in an outfit system that will allow the player to customize their starting stats a bit.

Thanks for the feedback though, I noticed this is the first comment you've posted on this site, so i'm happy the game means enough to you to express something about it.

We're still hard at work making the game, and it's not perfect and I agree the RNG can be BAD at times, but we're making things better as we go. With every update the heroines have gotten a little tougher, so by the end i'm thinking we'll be in a good spot.

God, thank you for the stats overhaul, it always felt weird that the only options that felt relevant were damage and % regen.

 

[Fistagon77]

game needs an option to turn off skills that you bought or unlocked so they dont appear in your runs
and mod support

 

[Squishy ladies enjoyer]

I would suggest add at some point custom difficulty(I guess it's better to make it when game will be near the end of development), so that everyone would be able to build their own experience(for example, one option could be to make half of all enemies "ur fav enemy here"). But of course that option would be available only for people who would complete main story.

 

[EIEIO]

Not because I think you've got bad ideas, but because we've already made alternative solutions in the upcoming update.
Rather than decreasing the difficulty through meddling with enemy spawn rates, I am adding some more tools to help the player strategize more and increase their damage output a bit.
For those unaware, the stat system is getting a big overhaul to make it more interesting. I'm combining the recovery stat with the stamina and mind stats and using that empty 6th stat slot for a new special stat, the new stat will give:

Swordswoman - the ability to increase the amount of spaces her basic attack pushes enemies.
Ninja - will now have a chance to apply a debuff to her basic attack at the beginning of her turn (blind, sleep, or poison) (upgrading her special stat increases the odds of this occuring)
Archer - able to raise her critical hit rate.

This is fucking perfect and you are a genius.

 

[droglob]

I have yet to play the game but looking at the first page this is the first time i am forced to ask myself: Is porn art good if i find it profoundly un-sexy?
I mean i think i am meant to think the art looks good, it certainly has creative designs, it looks well drawn (for the most part), but i find so much of it unappealing. Look at the mushroom girl for example: yeah that's a very creative design but i don't wanna fuck that. Instead of nice plump thighs, her legs look diseased, like they are rotting away, the mushrooms on the gas mask face just invoke images of some skin disease. I get it, she's toxic, that's a really really cool design, but it's not sexy to me. What on earth is happening on the second image? What is that nightmare fuel abomination of a transformation for the first girl? That's actual horror. Why does the right thigh of the ninja girl look malnourished instead of nice and plump? and it comes to a giant knee at the end that's as thick as the thighs? Why do the arms of the boar girl look atrophied? And why does every nipple in the game look stapled on?

 

[Trapquest]

I have yet to play the game but looking at the first page this is the first time i am forced to ask myself: Is porn art good if i find it profoundly un-sexy?
I mean i think i am meant to think the art looks good, it certainly has creative designs, it looks well drawn (for the most part), but i find so much of it unappealing. Look at the mushroom girl for example: yeah that's a very creative design but i don't wanna fuck that. Instead of nice plump thighs, her legs look diseased, like they are rotting away, the mushrooms on the gas mask face just invoke images of some skin disease. I get it, she's toxic, that's a really really cool design, but it's not sexy to me. What on earth is happening on the second image? What is that nightmare fuel abomination of a transformation for the first girl? That's actual horror. Why does the right thigh of the ninja girl look malnourished instead of nice and plump? and it comes to a giant knee at the end that's as thick as the thighs? Why do the arms of the boar girl look atrophied? And why does every nipple in the game look stapled on?

I think that's just personal preference. Monster musume girls are pretty accessible and universally liked, as they're almost like normal girls with "accessories" or costumes, but there are more niche tastes for actual monster girls who are legitimately anatomically distinct, and it also bares mentioning that the girls from this game are also that cartoonish semi-hyper style of body type, which can put off some people but is very appealing to others.

There are lots of things like that, some people like super huge breasts and some people hate them, some people really like the vacuum face blowjob thing but people who don't really hate it. You probably just personally don't vibe with this art style, it doesn't make it bad, it just makes it a bad fit for you.

 

[bucefala]

I have yet to play the game but looking at the first page this is the first time i am forced to ask myself: Is porn art good if i find it profoundly un-sexy?
I mean i think i am meant to think the art looks good, it certainly has creative designs, it looks well drawn (for the most part), but i find so much of it unappealing. Look at the mushroom girl for example: yeah that's a very creative design but i don't wanna fuck that. Instead of nice plump thighs, her legs look diseased, like they are rotting away, the mushrooms on the gas mask face just invoke images of some skin disease. I get it, she's toxic, that's a really really cool design, but it's not sexy to me. What on earth is happening on the second image? What is that nightmare fuel abomination of a transformation for the first girl? That's actual horror. Why does the right thigh of the ninja girl look malnourished instead of nice and plump? and it comes to a giant knee at the end that's as thick as the thighs? Why do the arms of the boar girl look atrophied? And why does every nipple in the game look stapled on?

I actually love the nipples, they have that distinct areola that just screams "suction cup your mouth here"

 

[DeynanDescafeinado]

I have yet to play the game but looking at the first page this is the first time i am forced to ask myself: Is porn art good if i find it profoundly un-sexy?
I mean i think i am meant to think the art looks good, it certainly has creative designs, it looks well drawn (for the most part), but i find so much of it unappealing. Look at the mushroom girl for example: yeah that's a very creative design but i don't wanna fuck that. Instead of nice plump thighs, her legs look diseased, like they are rotting away, the mushrooms on the gas mask face just invoke images of some skin disease. I get it, she's toxic, that's a really really cool design, but it's not sexy to me. What on earth is happening on the second image? What is that nightmare fuel abomination of a transformation for the first girl? That's actual horror. Why does the right thigh of the ninja girl look malnourished instead of nice and plump? and it comes to a giant knee at the end that's as thick as the thighs? Why do the arms of the boar girl look atrophied? And why does every nipple in the game look stapled on?

Brother, you either have a phobia or very strong preferences if you find it that disturbing. It's ok, you're not forced to like something or play something, you have free will.

 

[Squishy ladies enjoyer]

And I thought I'm picky... Oh wait, I am, in like 8-9 years I have only a bit more that 200 pron games and I REALLY liked only from 6 to 15 of them, I think.(and some of them are RPGMs that I can't really force myself to play more than once or twice).

]8P

 

[Trongle]

yeah I’m not responding to that lol

 

[droglob]

yeah I’m not responding to that lol

No one asked you to.
...except you literally just did, and to just dismiss it entirely. You would have done better to actually stay quiet instead of displaying this pissy, passive aggressive attitude.

 

[droglob]

Brother, you either have a phobia or very strong preferences if you find it that disturbing. It's ok, you're not forced to like something or play something, you have free will.

I don't think i have a phobia. They literally made a horror game about it. It was very popular. Then it became a vehicle for a pathetic pseudo intellectual hack to suck himself off, but i digress.

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I don't get frightened by it but I'm also not gonna fap to a girl having her face turned into meat/fungus flaps.

 

[Trapquest]

I mean, if you think this is out there, then you probably haven't seen anywhere close to the weirdest the internet has to offer in regards to porn. Mushroom monsters with a bit of body morphing are pretty mild compared to a pretty significant amount of stuff even from here on f95.

Jack-o-nine-tails is on here, the less said about what can be done in that game the better; hell, there are some short stories on furaffinity about rubber suits that are legitimately more horrifying than anything that's come out of the hollywood horror scene in the last 3 decades, and the standard stuff to be found on 4chan's /d/ threads back in the day were creepy enough without the people there exclusively to share blatantly evil and illegal stuff with each other.

It sounds like you may have something akin to trypophobia, which I suppose is an interesting subject for a hypothetical accessibility option like in the indie games that always have an arachnophobia toggle that turns all the spiders into cute blobs or stickfigures. I don't rate there being good odds for that being included in the game though, much more likely that all the art direction is gonna be focused on new stuff, which is probably for the best.

 

[Bulbanych]

Hell, it doesn't even matter if it's a matter of having a phobia or not, you can find certain art (or the artstyle as a whole) unpleasant or unarousing just because.
The thing is that droglob posted his opinion on this game's art style in a (relatively) non-hostile way, which is commendable considering how aggresive most people are from the get-go, but now it's kind of turning into a weird-ass argument consisting of this game's fans going "look at this dumbass not being on board with the game's unique artstyle" and droglob's not being able to ignore the extra spicy replies.

 

[Trapquest]

Hell, it doesn't even matter if it's a matter of having a phobia or not, you can find certain art (or the artstyle as a whole) unpleasant or unarousing just because.
The thing is that droglob posted his opinion on this game's art style in a (relatively) non-hostile way, which is commendable considering how aggresive most people are from the get-go, but now it's kind of turning into a weird-ass argument consisting of this game's fans going "look at this dumbass not being on board with the game's unique artstyle" and droglob's not being able to ignore the extra spicy replies.

Well, that's not strictly fair. Droglob was a bit passive aggressive with his comment, and it's structured like a weird backhanded compliment without the complimentary part, but obviously if you're not into something approaching with a comment like that is relatively normal, most people will do that with things they don't like.

On the other hand, Trongle (The dev) has been fielding unconstructive criticism, and also some at least reasoned out design complaints, in huge swathes of the thread even though the game is one of the few here that actually has gameplay of any kind in it that isn't a VN or RPGmaker asset flip, and to boot is quite fun and novel with the design choices . If I spent the majority of my time working on this huge project and somebody came in with vague comments about it not being sexy enough I think probably anybody would get pissed off in that position, especially when the project is unpaid for.

 

[droglob]

Jesus fucking tap dancing Christ. I say gameplay is not good in one thread, i get people telling me I'm a scrub who only plays VNs. I say i don't find fungal infection face flaps ladies sexy in another thread, i get people trying to diagnose my medical conditions. It's like every thread turned into it's own Discord server.

 

[Bulbanych]

Jesus fucking tap dancing Christ. I say gameplay is not good in one thread, i get people telling me I'm a scrub who only plays VNs. I say i don't find fungal infection face flaps ladies sexy in another thread, i get people trying to diagnose my medical conditions. It's like every thread turned into it's own Discord server.

This game is very highly acclaimed, so if people think that you dare criticize it without offering a huge "I'm a big fan of this game and I love it so so much, but I have a few issues with it" in return, they dogpile on you because you dared to criticize "the rare porn game that has gameplay in it".

 

[HikkiG]

This game is very highly acclaimed, so if people think that you dare criticize it without offering a huge "I'm a big fan of this game and I love it so so much, but I have a few issues with it" in return, they dogpile on you because you dared to criticize "the rare porn game that has gameplay in it".

Not at all, people here have arguments all the time over all manner of things without said dog-piling. This isn't first thread I've seen droglob post and each time the way he replies to topics and people just provokes negative reaction. Maybe he doesn't mean anything bad by it, but the way he types is provocative.

 

[Bulbanych]

Not at all, people here have arguments all the time over all manner of things without said dog-piling. This isn't first thread I've seen droglob post and each time the way he replies to topics and people just provokes negative reaction. Maybe he doesn't mean anything bad by it, but the way he types is provocative.

I agree that he writes in a somewhat rude way, though I still think that this game's thread is very defensive about the gameplay, though in my opinion it's because the game really wants you to get good instead of just letting you press "change difficulty to easy", which is normal for a rougue-like game, but because it's a porn game it kind of makes it worse if you're not a fan of rougue-likes.
I've heard that next update is going to add more things that should make the game easier, so I'll wait for the next update. Maybe then I'll finally be able to play this game, because I've never met a porn game that so desperately wanted to enjoy but couldn't due to how seriously it treats it's game genre.

 

[droglob]

Not at all, people here have arguments all the time over all manner of things without said dog-piling. This isn't first thread I've seen droglob post and each time the way he replies to topics and people just provokes negative reaction. Maybe he doesn't mean anything bad by it, but the way he types is provocative.

I entered this thread saying this game has cool character designs but i don't find them sexy, i even made sure to emphasize it was a personal opinion (because you have to do that now) by prefacing and formatting the post as me questioning my opinions. Now, not even a half a day later i am at the point where i have someone musing on and questioning my entire post history.

Some motherfuckers really should have played MGS2 in their formative years. Maybe then the world would not be drowning in terminally offended manikins, hiding boiling pots of aggression behind a veneer of fake politeness. Any display of anything that's not some amorphous gray blob of zero personality is "provocative".

God damn. I take the GIT GUD XDDD crowd over this any day.
I'm ending this fucking nonsense here, whatever little interest i had in the game is sure as fuck lost now. Say whatever you want.