Henshinvolt

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Does anyone know why the programmer he hired bailed on the project?
There are at least 3 people that tried to remake/rebuild the game (maybe there was 4).
The 1st one is now a successful dev on another game who didn't meet deadlines apparently and there were communication issues etc though his priority back then seemed to have been more on the Scooby game.
The 2nd is LockeKosta who was pretty active on the discord a few years ago. From what has been implied he kept making excuses on why he wasn't making progress and was fired after working on the rebuild for 2 years (he seemed to be some form of professional coder but didn't put the work in.)
The third was a local guy that wasn't active online who seemed to quit on the project less than a year into making it.

I know all this from being a part of the SU discord for the past 3 years or so.
 

Jarendells

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A Change of Pace.
We had originally planned to get this update out then do a small "tune up" update to fix issues and add in content that was cut through out the year. But things don't always go to plan and we've had a lot more trouble than was expected. So we are going to combine the builds. Rather than do two turn-arounds this late in the year. Pulling back on Wonder Woman or other content isn't something we would like to do unless we absolutely had to.

Thanks for the patience guys, we will be sure to have it out before the end of this month.

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A Change of Pace, What a joke SR7 releasing an update on time would be a Change of Pace.
 

zenzaxaznez

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The latest Patreon post is a PR disaster. Sunset has failed to get the update ready within a reasonable time - what's done is done. I'm not gonna get into that. But the Patreon post, which I assume is written by Smokeshank, has to make a better attempt at calming the masses and instilling confidence.

They go from a post that claims that "the finish line is within reach" to this bare minimum notification, telling us it's delayed for possibly two more weeks. The post should have been three times longer, go full Cyberpunk 2077 with it and explain how the technical side is a complete clusterfuck and how very sorry you are. It's OK if Sunset is too busy to write a long explanation/apology, but isn't this Smokeshank's job? I remember them putting out long Patreon posts in the past, informing patrons about the dialogue bugs in Fungus, for example.

Why even bring up that you had planned for two more updates this year? The second update had yet to be announced, and I'm sure almost no one remembered the vague mention of "two more updates this year" in a Patreon post months ago.
Now they've put more pressure on themselves by revealing that this update is going to have even more content than what had already been announced. Why not just be silent about that and push those things to next year when you're having incredible trouble releasing this update as it is?

The one thing they did right was to put Wonder Woman in bold, reminding people that the most popular girl is going to be in this update. And I suppose it could have been worse, there could have been total radio silence.

Luckily for them, the people seem to be taking it well for now. I checked the comments and most are understanding, with a couple of zealous defenders pre-emptively striking down any attempts at criticism. There is however a user who simply replied to their post with "LOL". He would have never done that if they had written a longer explanation and apology.
 

drea2

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You're right. He makes himself a problem, because he doesn't want to "share the money" hire 3 more persons to help him out. I mean, realistically he doesn't need to hire someone from NA. People from Europe would gladly work for the lower paycheck.
He should focus only on drawing and hire 3 more persons to do the rest. He doesn't even need to finish the game. DC Universe has so much content that can be implemented into this game. At some point he can close the first part and start SU2.
This game could be so much more if he is ready to share the money with someone else. It could be well animated, with music and better storytelling.
He needs a screenwriter, animator and programmer.
It would be a less crunch and he would earn more money in the long run.
It's not because you're hiring people that you'll work better. I mean, with how we've seen how he doesn't know how to manage himself, do you expect him to manage a team ?

But besides that, people are forgetting that managing a team when you don't have experience is really hard.
The thing is, if he has to hire people, he will have to slow down his work to train them with the tools he uses, and I think that's what he doesn't want to do, because he only sees his next patreon payement and not to the long term.

But even then, you have to find experienced developpers, and they aren't cheap. Especially with the fact that he could be sued someday, so he has to takes freelances, he has to manage how they are paid. And no, you can't just hire someone from the other side of the planet because you have to communicate with him, which becomes a problem with the jetlag. The closer you are with the people you are working with, the better it will be.

Managing people is cumbersome and not anyone can do it. And He already failed to do it so he maybe hasn't the motivation anymore to start a process that would just end up wasting his time and money.
I can understand someone who would be like "I'm making money, I'm doing what I like, why should I bore myself with managing people and deal with papers when I could just continue like this ?"
It's never as simple as "just hire people".
 

MyNameChef123

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This is heavily reminding me of south park, where butters and scott are waiting for pizzas from George R. R. Martin and when they ask where the pizzas are hes like "THE PIZZAS ARE COMING, WHAT KIND DO YOU WANT? it wont just be 2 pizzas, um, itll be 5 and theyll be HUGE! you wont believe it!!" ....but they never got the pizzas did they
 

Wallsfalldown

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Judging by the recent comments, there's not a lot of consistency with updates? Is it worth starting this game, then? I'm assuming there's a decent amount of content for being five years old.
 
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jberger990

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Is there anything following after you get the second gland? The one from the Alchemy quest when she is given a love potion by Phobos?
 

Oriandu

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Just... don't compare SR7 and Sad Crab. SR7 has it's flaws, but he's not near as bad as Sad Crab is. SU at least has sex scenes for almost each girls and there is a lot of them, with some have multiple with event/bordello. IW there is 5 girls and only 1 has actual sex and the games have been around for the same period of time.

SR7 is really bad with communication and there is always delays, but if you only take each update, they have way more content than 99% games here.
How many porn games are just ripoff from Honey Select with 1 update every 3 months and will be discountinued within 1 year, but you'll see the comments like "this developer is wonderful and you shouldn't share his patreon content". And I'm not talking about those games just having a blowjob scene were you only got a sex scene each 3 updates.
SR7 is just doing is stuff and promising false things, but if you only take the game, it's not that bad.
Something Unlimited isn't the best porn game, but at least we have sex scenes at each update, with a really nice 2D style. it seems like the bases but there is so many games that don't even do this. But because the developper is a nice guy all is forgiven.

Yeah we could talk about how much money he is making, and it could be better, and it's our right to critisize him. But that doesn't mean either it's the worst porn game ever made.
I would compare SR7 to Sad Crab without a moment of hesitation. Both can't hit release dates to save their lives, both dangle content fans want in front of them for years at a time, both have successful kickstarters primarily because they're using parody laws to get around IP theft, and both produce work that can only loosely be called a game. The only difference between SR7 and Sad Crab is that Something Unlimited cannot be developed in a manner that would allow SR7 to not produce proper content for years at a time, while Innocent Witches is such a game.

As for having more content than 99% more games out there... most of it is still images. SR7 produces an extremely small amount of content and wraps it up in poorly written, repetitive scenarios. If every project approached content the way SR7 does, then that 99% of games would all have as much or more content than Something Unlimited.

You're making excuses for a cheap, lazy scam artist.
 

ogr blanc

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Judging by the recent comments, there's not a lot of consistency with updates? Is it worth starting this game, then? I'm assuming there's a decent amount of content for being five years old.
majority of the girls have the 3 course meal+ dance/strip. a few side events, lots of characters.

the scenes are samey, but still good enough. design is top notch(but alot of reused/shared body types).

overall, still worth playing, it is enjoyable. doesnt change the fact its barebones(to say the least) maybe even low effort(depending on who you ask).

as for starting new, you could wait a few days/weeks, and get the newer version, or play it now(most saves work between updates, BUT SOMETIMES it can bug something out).
 

Saylor

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I recently downloaded the Asset Pack, and decided I'd write a quick little HTML viewer to be able to check out the pics. Once I started diving into the various image folders, I can see some of the reasons SR7 has such trouble writing updates. He's got very little consistency with his file naming, which means he (and I, when I try and write any code using his files) have to constantly go back into the code and change calls to match the file names. Ideally, he'd change the file names to a new, more consistent scheme. But then he'd have to troubleshoot ALL the previous code to change THEIR reference calls. What a mess. The ONLY thing he's got keeping him afloat is the truly fantastic, faithful-to-the-original source artwork. Everything else about this game is dumpster fire.
 

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Every time I hear or read the words "The thing you have invested your money in will be delayed... again," I keep expecting there to be a giant yellow background on my screen with that text written Shining-style in lines all over it.
 
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SoulFoZoid

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The latest Patreon post is a PR disaster. Sunset has failed to get the update ready within a reasonable time - what's done is done. I'm not gonna get into that. But the Patreon post, which I assume is written by Smokeshank, has to make a better attempt at calming the masses and instilling confidence.

They go from a post that claims that "the finish line is within reach" to this bare minimum notification, telling us it's delayed for possibly two more weeks. The post should have been three times longer, go full Cyberpunk 2077 with it and explain how the technical side is a complete clusterfuck and how very sorry you are. It's OK if Sunset is too busy to write a long explanation/apology, but isn't this Smokeshank's job? I remember them putting out long Patreon posts in the past, informing patrons about the dialogue bugs in Fungus, for example.

Why even bring up that you had planned for two more updates this year? The second update had yet to be announced, and I'm sure almost no one remembered the vague mention of "two more updates this year" in a Patreon post months ago.
Now they've put more pressure on themselves by revealing that this update is going to have even more content than what had already been announced. Why not just be silent about that and push those things to next year when you're having incredible trouble releasing this update as it is?

The one thing they did right was to put Wonder Woman in bold, reminding people that the most popular girl is going to be in this update. And I suppose it could have been worse, there could have been total radio silence.

Luckily for them, the people seem to be taking it well for now. I checked the comments and most are understanding, with a couple of zealous defenders pre-emptively striking down any attempts at criticism. There is however a user who simply replied to their post with "LOL". He would have never done that if they had written a longer explanation and apology.
The long winded posts were done my Locke with certain input from Smoke.
 
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Testerguy19

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At least he's willing to make posts to keep people informed rather than keep them hanging. Like it or not, he's still one of the most consistent adult game devs out there.
Talk about consistency. We're pretty much hitting a landslide here in the last few pages more so. We cannot expect someone to keep pulling punches like that, failing to meet expectations. Information can be excuses sometimes. He failed consistency long ago.
 

Testerguy19

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Thanks Henshinvolt for the info again, the name LockeKosta brings up much memories (only time I ever spoke with him if I ever recall was not to ask F95 links in the discord chat years ago). I suspected up until now, if you didn't say it, was fired. I thought he was part of the integral small crew who helped advance the project much faster than usual. So it really truly is one man now. Handling all of it. Excuses and laziness I get on certain aspects, but the decision to overturn for complete creative control should have driven this lad crazy. It's really going down in flames the more we look at it.

We clamour too much like Patreon, but we're not the ones paying it, we're the pirates here. It really doesn't matter if we have early access as a paywall, it feels like a scam regardless, doesn't bore well for early playtesters either. So the point is, is it going to deliver? Combination of both? Did the creator feel obliged to post an update on this out of pressure? We'll see. Chances are getting low, and it's about two weeks left until Decemer. It could be just promising art, but still shitty.
 
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