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OhWee

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does this make it illegal?
The disclaimer is to make it clear that while GS Games IS aware of this project, they have not commissioned it and are not involved in it. Note that the community SU port project was specifically referenced in the GS Games twitch stream podcast a few days ago. Smokeshank pretty much figures that, like similar efforts before this one, it won't go anywhere... (Challenge accepted?). We aren't monetizing this and have no plans to monetize it, it's just a community effort, for free.

It's a community effort to explore different approaches r.e. how SU Unity handles things. SR7 likes Fungus a lot, and is comfortable with how it works, and I imagine that GS Games prefers Unity for SU at this point, but Ren'Py introduces a number of other options, such as easier moddability.

There are those among the 'community build team' that hope that an 'official' Ren'Py version of SU becomes a thing someday, seeing that the current versions of SU Unity have so many weird bugs, and perhaps this might inspire the GS Games team to shift gears, but in the meantime, yeah the community effort is mostly 'just for fun'.

And you DO realize that this is a buccaneer forum, right?
 
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drooopy

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so Themyscira gets three scenes... all of which are just amazons being cranky at Lex when he enters an area."
pretty sure themysicira is gonna have some lewd content in it, not just cranky dialogue from the amazons.

Amazon sprites have already been introduced, no amazon lewd scenes means artist didn't draw shit for this themysicira update, which I doubt cause that would be too big of a troll move.
 

HentaiKami

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what the fucks a buccaneer?
buccaneer /ˌbʌkəˈnɪə/, noun: buccaneer; plural noun: buccaneers: a pirate, originally one operating in the Caribbean. "the marauding buccaneers who used to terrorize the Mediterranean coasts"
a person who acts in a recklessly adventurous and often unscrupulous way, especially in business. "the company might be a target for an individual buccaneer seeking power and prestige"
Dictionaries are such a lovely invention, now days there's even free online ones :p
 

Erebus69

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Do you realize that SU itself is illegally violating copyright laws?
the use of "parody" in this case is transformative. It's reasonably safe to say that DC would never produce or authorize porn content. It has even gone as far as saying there cant even be the suggestion that Batman goes down on Catwoman.



oh and batmetal exists and as far as I know hasn't received a IP strike
 

Kylar Stern

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Do you realize that SU itself is illegally violating copyright laws?
They already had that battle a couple of years ago. Since Patreon is seen as a tip jar and the end result is to be released for free, all DC/ Warner Bros. could do is request the name being changed to something other than "Injustice Unlimited". Hence why it's "Something Unlimited". So while parody is transformative (even though DC has tried to get pretty risky) the real thing that won GG the case was the intent of the end result to be released for free.

An unfinished work can be declared a violation of copyright law, but since none of the Patreons are forced into pledging, and this is all at the will of the creator, then the proceeds are seen as donation and not "for-profit". If the game were finished and being sold for money that would be for profit and violation. While many professional coders could make the argument that version 2.xxx is the designation for the second version of a finished product, GG has wisely put a screen at the game's start saying "work in progress".

tl;dr Been there, done that, got away scott free, its a game being played in the gray areas of the law rn.
 
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the use of "parody" in this case is transformative. It's reasonably safe to say that DC would never produce or authorize porn content. It has even gone as far as saying there cant even be the suggestion that Batman goes down on Catwoman.



oh and batmetal exists and as far as I know hasn't received a IP strike
This makes me wonder to what extent companies like Disney or DC know about porn parodies made of their IP but either don't care or view it as free marketing. Surely Disney knows that people are constantly making porn out of their characters, but I suspect the reason they don't sue or issue cease and desist letters is because the publicity of "family friendly" Disney suing over porn is more damaging to their image than the porn itself.
 

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the use of "parody" in this case is transformative. It's reasonably safe to say that DC would never produce or authorize porn content. It has even gone as far as saying there cant even be the suggestion that Batman goes down on Catwoman.



oh and batmetal exists and as far as I know hasn't received a IP strike
But they didn't stop Nightwing from being raped in the comics by his stalker?
 

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This makes me wonder to what extent companies like Disney or DC know about porn parodies made of their IP but either don't care or view it as free marketing. Surely Disney knows that people are constantly making porn out of their characters, but I suspect the reason they don't sue or issue cease and desist letters is because the publicity of "family friendly" Disney suing over porn is more damaging to their image than the porn itself.
There's been porn parodies for years now, even that Aquaman movie got its own porn parody iirc. Also there's "rumour" about how Disney at one point, might still today, have a clause in their contract that gives them ownership of anything the artists they employ make during their contract, and many of those artists draw porn of their own characters. So according to the rumour there's boxes upon boxes of drawn porn of classic Disney characters that they own and keep hidden.
 

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They already had that battle a couple of years ago. Since Patreon is seen as a tip jar and the end result is to be released for free, all DC/ Warner Bros. could do is request the name being changed to something other than "Injustice Unlimited". Hence why it's "Something Unlimited". So while parody is transformative (even though DC has tried to get pretty risky) the real thing that won GG the case was the intent of the end result to be released for free.

An unfinished work can be declared a violation of copyright law, but since none of the Patreons are forced into pledging, and this is all at the will of the creator, then the proceeds are seen as donation and not "for-profit". If the game were finished and being sold for money that would be for profit and violation. While many professional coders could make the argument that version 2.xxx is the designation for the second version of a finished product, GG has wisely put a screen at the game's start saying "work in progress".

tl;dr Been there, done that, got away scott free, its a game being played in the gray areas of the law rn.
This makes me wonder to what extent companies like Disney or DC know about porn parodies made of their IP but either don't care or view it as free marketing. Surely Disney knows that people are constantly making porn out of their characters, but I suspect the reason they don't sue or issue cease and desist letters is because the publicity of "family friendly" Disney suing over porn is more damaging to their image than the porn itself.
There's been porn parodies for years now, even that Aquaman movie got its own porn parody iirc. Also there's "rumour" about how Disney at one point, might still today, have a clause in their contract that gives them ownership of anything the artists they employ make during their contract, and many of those artists draw porn of their own characters. So according to the rumour there's boxes upon boxes of drawn porn of classic Disney characters that they own and keep hidden.
This work doesn't actually use it's own version of anything from the Justice League TV show (ie, it uses the same models of characters even if drawn by someone else), so it actually probably isn't quite transformative enough. Whereas a porno starring porn stars that nominally look like the intended character but ISN'T the same thing would be significantly more transformative. But that's up to a judge and/or jury to decide (depends on how far the lawsuit gets, one side usually wants the judge and the other wants the jury; this also would vary depending on the legal system).

But this game makes very little money (which is primarily what copyright is concerned with) and once the name was changed isn't very likely to damage the copyrighted material (although that also might have been a trademark issue as well, but since Justice League isn't really directly attached to a commercial product, that's probably a non-issue). Plus, at least in USA, there is the affirmative defense of fair use (affirmative means "to be raised at trial," so everyone who puts a disclaimer about fair use before their parody is a fucking moron because they're tacitly admitting to being guilty before even being sued). But EU has droits moral, so it get complicated between legal paradigms...

Point is that this game makes so little money and changed its name that it basically isn't really worth it. But Batman gonna be in public domain soon, can't wait to see him finally be the villan!! Just like how new Winnie the Pooh movie isn't allowed to have Tigger yet... so instead Piglet gets a machete!
 

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This makes me wonder to what extent companies like Disney or DC know about porn parodies made of their IP but either don't care or view it as free marketing. Surely Disney knows that people are constantly making porn out of their characters, but I suspect the reason they don't sue or issue cease and desist letters is because the publicity of "family friendly" Disney suing over porn is more damaging to their image than the porn itself.
I'll assume they know and are only concerned when it starts messing with their actually pocket book and online presence via SEO, ad traffic and click through.

this is purely assumptive. But my guess is that it's a double edge sword. The IP holder will have to prove damages and infringement (from my understanding) so if the IP holders have to go to court, and if they argue damages they may have to show they had the intent have their good wholesome characters behave in an obscene manner and they have to prove the offender is profiting from the game. which may be hard to do if its is free. There also point that if the IP holders take offender to court and the offender wins the strength of their IP is then put into jeopardy AND the person gets to claim loses and lawyer fees AND gets to continue production of the project. So it's easier to play hardball up to that fine edge, and the big companies also know they can go around the actual offender and threaten providers if need be. IE the companies will threaten a web host before the offender

Note this is for US laws Japan's IP laws are much different as Nintindo has proven going after the princess peach porn games
 
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