Mishanya1004

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I'm surprised your other muscles aren't tired from moving the goal posts so much. I kid, I kid. I'm really still waiting for the answers to the questions I asked you month ago. Might be time to relax those tired muscles and answer them.
The ones I answered time and time again?

Sorry, but any goodwill you've ever had on my part was squandered years ago, so yeah, I'm a little bit skeptical that you can still create a short, finished, product within a reasonable time-frame.

We're still all waiting for any updates regarding BoB2, all I'm saying.

I guess it time for a review of his X-Men comic artwork.
Here are some links.



The artwork is still fucking baller though, regardless of anything, as is SR7's all earlier stuff.
 
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Just wanted to say; I had been a patreon supporter for a while years ago and stopped when I felt things became stagnant and hadn't been progressing well. Seeing the latest updates for SU, the news of a platform change for the game, and the introduction of an X-Men Evo based game have all made me jump back in to the patreon. Am I a sucker for anything X Men related? Yes, but I also hope this new project is a breath of fresh air and gives everyone a nice morale boost. I think the smaller scope will work out quite well since you don't have too many moving parts to deal with, and I hope it will be a game that can go down as one of the greats.
Thank you very much Aurelius, and you're story as a patron was common. This pivot was a risk, but we felt it was absolutely needed as we were persevering, and in my opinion doing that for to long.

The new project has been a great thing for the team, daily conversations, weekly updates, we're gelling at the right time. I'm with you on the smaller scope as well, and I'm hoping a more iterative approach to making these with supporters having a direct impact on the quality of the finished product will be what makes it great. I look forward to working with you on that!

The ones I answered time and time again?

Sorry, but any goodwill you've ever had on my part was squandered years ago, so yeah, I'm a little bit skeptical that you can still create a short, finished, product within a reasonable time-frame.

We're still all waiting for any updates regarding BoB2, all I'm saying.



The artwork is still fucking baller though, regardless of anything, as is SR7's all earlier stuff.
Mishanya, even if we deliver you will be skeptical lets be honest here. You, have been a champion of the art has been getting "worse" cohort here. Now the art is baller? I tried to explain to people here that SR7 has been holding himself back for years, and you want him to do that more. I said fuck that shit, go flex on these people in powerslave, and that is what he is doing. Raven in Super Babes had a lot of you crying AI, and look it's horrible, but that's not what it was, it was SR7 saying "I have gotten a lot better in the last 10 years". There is no AI, SR7 is just that fucking good, and his older stuff cannot even come close to the quality in powerslave. Even my jaw dropped when I saw this stuff.
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As for BoB2 I have answered this a dozen times, and also answered directly to you. That promo for BoB2 was released without my knowledge and I was pissed. It should never have been released, the idea was to let people know that we were starting planning on BoB2 (had started doing some work on a GDD), and develop a marketing strategy that followed our efforts. I woke up on a Saturday to that promo on Patreon. In my opinion that promo was done to shut people up, and that is not the thing we do, as it has done the complete opposite.
 

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The ones I answered time and time again?

Sorry, but any goodwill you've ever had on my part was squandered years ago, so yeah, I'm a little bit skeptical that you can still create a short, finished, product within a reasonable time-frame.

We're still all waiting for any updates regarding BoB2, all I'm saying.



The artwork is still fucking baller though, regardless of anything, as is SR7's all earlier stuff.
I have yet to see an answer for the "full ren'py version created in a couple of days". You're maybe the most full of shit person around here.

I know of two ren'py versions that exist currently. One has almost no actual content and the other isn't complete either, both are past the 1 year mark at this point. So, I definitely want to see this couple day full ren'py port that isn't just exporting the android version to be used on desktop (which I've also done)
 

Gunsmoke Games

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For someone who says they don't care, you seem to be very angry over some facts. In my opinion when someone is having trouble with the factual narrative they typically jump to assumptions that are grounded in an emotional response. I'm sorry you got so angry over the factual reality. My intention is only to make sure misleading information isn't being left unanswered, and once we both set the factual reality we can discuss your numerous beliefs. But if you refuse to believe the factual reality we will never be able to discuss anything.

So now you're admitting that you don't have enough control over your own fucking Patreon that your subordinates or whoever can release promos WITHOUT YOUR KNOWLEDGE? Jesus fucking Christ, the level of incompetence is incredible.
The only admission was that I didn't agree with the promo, and I didn't ok the promo. See Mishayna in business we have things called shareholder agreements, and those agreements spell out contractual roles. It's up to all parties to abide by them, and voicing my displeasure for the action publicly doesn't show that I don't have control, it shows that a shareholder over stepped their role. In my opinion not understanding this and going so far as making such a brash statement without proof is an emotional response, and you're insult was meant to hurt me. I'm sorry you have to go so far as insult somebody who just states the factual narrative, they do say "the truth hurts".

Also, if you couldn't read I said "as is all of SR7's earlier stuff." Is the modern X-men artwork better than the abominations he vomits out onto the events? Slightly, and even then, it suffers from a lot of the same issues qua body types - but at least their boobs are slightly more well-proportioned and their faces look better. I suppose we have to be thankful it isn't the copy-paste heads from Themiscyra or the cancer growths of Gotham, again.
Oh my response was quite accurate and I do want to say you seem to be very angry over the art SR7 produced. He draws what he likes, and it's ok for you not to like it at all. I would suggest maybe consuming something you like as you seem extremely angry over someone doing something they love.

I very openly stated my issues with SU, several times over, but each time you revert to the same empty platitudes. Am I looking forward to Powerslave? Eh, slightly. I certainly don't think you will be able to accomplish your stated goals - and even if you do, to me it will seem like even more proof of my previous points. Will I be happy you at least released anything semi-decent? Sure. But if you have the time to create a whole-ass separate - good - game, then the incredibly long waiting times between updates and the awful art have even less justification as far as I'm concerned.
Stating the factual reality and context, when your statements either lack sufficient knowledge (see your comment about the promo) is not empty of substance. Nor was it an attempt to comfort you. For someone who just challenged my reading comprehension it seems to me you missed the point I tried to make when I said I want to discuss these things, and to do so we need to be in the same factual reality. But it seems if the factual narrative doesn't match you're assumptions, you get angry and miss read statements. I'm sorry if my original messages were unclear, that was never my intention.

Also I asked you a question a month ago and you continue to avoid it. It was indirect response to one of your questions.

I only used this argument to prove that GS' dozen times repeated excuse of "long waiting times" is bullshit. I never claimed the game was complete as in up to date with all the content they have spewed out - just that saying it takes "years" with the profits they are making and the fact they have a separate programmer on staff is, IMHO, completely and utterly ludicrous.
A person directly involved in your example said this of you," You're maybe the most full of shit person around here.". This to me again shows your unwillingness to operate in a factual reality that adds context to your statements so people can discuss real points. This argument by you, I believe makes the most assumptions, as you clearly don't understand the needs of these projects unlike Ducks who was involved in the example you used to say we're not working properly.

I'm sorry you're so angry over us making something we love, and are passionate about. I personally cannot grasp your motivation to be so angry, as when I don't like something I just move onto something I do like.
 
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Is the Bordelo content not available in the android version? I've recruited every available heroines, but Catwoman doesn't give you the option to add heroines to the Bordelo
 

iamnuff

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How far does the Themyscima event go? I got to Artemis in the temple of Hera, after fucking Grail.
Is that all of it?

Edit: Also, am I crazy or is the only real way to see the full content in events like the Yacht and Gotham to just laser-focus on one girl and skip time?

If I take Cheshire to the party but talk to any girl other than her (even though i'm also talking to her in every timeslot) sometimes I take them to the booth instead of her, and at the end of the day I can only take one girl to the penthouse anyway so if I want to see, for example, Killer Frost's scenes, I might as well do an entirely separate playthrough of the event to see her stuff.
 
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Oriandu

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This is the funniest game thread ever. Like the dev made a good game and somehow turned his game base go feral against him.
That's what happens when a game stops being good. Updates are getting further and further apart with only one released in the last eight months, it has been years since the game actually completed an event, the quality of art has gone down drastically resulting in multiple instances where there were accusations of AI artwork, and in lockstep with that drop in art quality is a completely bottoming out of the art style. Where we once had characters who looked like slightly exaggerated versions of their in media designs, we now have a few barbie doll body types that most characters don't naturally fit. Even recurring characters have been bimbofied into these barbie doll body types. There's literally a scene where you can see the immediate drop in quality where a group of characters are all the same body recoloured with a different head to denote each character even though none of them should have that body except for one. Something Unlimited used to be good.
 

Gunsmoke Games

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Imagine labelling every form of criticism as an emotional response then claiming you live in factual reality, what a fuck nut.
See I can understand where you are coming from if you hadn't read the messages Mishanya wrote about 1.5 months ago where he issued his grievances. I'm not saying his criticism is invalid, I'm saying he intentionally disregarding context in order to be right. How am I supposed to address a criticism that is only used to support a lie? For instance his repeated use of Mendozas project as proof we're lying. Even a member that was involved in that project told him he's not being truthful. Moving the goalpost from way faster than a year, to a year, when Ducks even said "is it a year? I don’t know ".

The fact is no one has done what Mishanya has said is possible, and they aren't even close. SU compressed is 3.0Gb, our Android build is 1.05 Gb (that's not compressed btw). Our is 1:1 and has almost all the content in at this point.

So according to Mishayna 3 things must happen for him to be right.

1) Henshin is committing fraud
2) We started our project way later than we said, and are just lying.
3) Mendoza is not doing a great job.

Here is proof of me offering a position to Henshin in 2021
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We're the only people to accomplish what he is saying. So yes that is the factual reality, not someone who seems to be upset that his understanding of this is not what really happened. If you want to discuss why I feel Mendoza's project hasn't come close to what we did, and why our took so long, we can have that discuss.

In my opinion, important that if you want to see actual criticism be addressed or discussed, it must be on what actually happened. Not what someone want's to have happened so they actually have a point.

Did they get a new PR dude? I'm surprised they stayed so long to engage with the thread after years of abandoning it.
No, we just have to make sure that people see the actual truth about what is coming out. And not let the Justice League of Misinformation and their 10 alt accounts mislead you.
 
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SoulFoZoid

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So far most of the users never resorted to use AI detection software. I think it started recently because they had a gut feeling on the sentences that look shuffled or list like.

Most of the cases the gut feeling is right and a simple comparation of before and after text is the right way to determine a recent change.

Tone shift is real and can be a real tool in the arsenal. There are other tools people could use but the key is always real information usage.

Trying a more neutral way to speak, so far going with intention in my text has led to people getting the wrong idea.
 

Gunsmoke Games

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So far most of the users never resorted to use AI detection software. I think it started recently because they had a gut feeling on the sentences that look shuffled or list like.

Most of the cases the gut feeling is right and a simple comparation of before and after text is the right way to determine a recent change.

Tone shift is real and can be a real tool in the arsenal. There are other tools people could use but the key is always real information usage.

Trying a more neutral way to speak, so far going with intention in my text has led to people getting the wrong idea.
I would tend to agree with you SoulFoZoid, but these sort of statements are merely a thin attempt at an attack. The tone change has resulted in nearly 100% increase in traffic, and we haven't had a single clarification question in months. Thank you for the advice, but we will continue on our path as we're getting better than expected results.

In my opinion these users will stop at no end to hopefully be right one day. Wait till these guys figure out AI is in MS Word.
 
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MejjeM

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Will finished SU also contain the events and characters from other games like Gotham and Themyscira?
 

Swallows999

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So far most of the users never resorted to use AI detection software. I think it started recently because they had a gut feeling on the sentences that look shuffled or list like.

Most of the cases the gut feeling is right and a simple comparation of before and after text is the right way to determine a recent change.

Tone shift is real and can be a real tool in the arsenal. There are other tools people could use but the key is always real information usage.

Trying a more neutral way to speak, so far going with intention in my text has led to people getting the wrong idea.
Yeah, I don't know when this started but the tone of the recent posts I've been reading have been really... "off-putting" to say the least, even if I like the meat of the message. I might be in the minority though, I personally prefer a more genuine voice.

Other that that, the new project sound exciting especially with all the buzz around Marvel: Rivals! At first I was confused at how this wouldn't slow down Something Unlimited, but I searched this thread and a comment said the bottleneck in development has been coding, not art. I hope to see some of the gooner skins from Marvel Rivals carried over. :cool:
 
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