Unity Something Unlimited [v2.4.8] [Gunsmoke Games]

[horatz]

Original DCU character design of female characters was so well done, feminine and sexy. His first releases were capturing that essence, but what he is doing lately, rather reminds me of Fallout supermutants then DCU.

 

[1138op]

Original DCU character design of female characters was so well done, feminine and sexy. His first releases were capturing that essence, but what he is doing lately, rather reminds me of Fallout supermutants then DCU.

It is suspected he's using AI for the rough draft and then draws over it. Compare the Catwoman sprite from the bordello with the one in the Gotham event. What you are seeing is the work of someone who has completely run out of creative ideas and now is just milking a good game he once had for every penny until interest ceases completely.

 

[horatz]

It is suspected he's using AI for the rough draft and then draws over it. Compare the Catwoman sprite from the bordello with the one in the Gotham event. What you are seeing is the work of someone who had completely run out of creative ideas and now is just milking a good game he once had for every penny until interest ceases completely.

That make sense, her body is out of proportion completely. Also using same ugly bodies for all women on the island. Especially Circe is noticeable after We had her in previous content.

 

[Perniciousducks]

That make sense, her body is out of proportion completely. Also using same ugly bodies for all women on the island. Especially Circe is noticeable after We had her in previous content.

so, I take it you don’t read?

It is noticeable, I wonder if there is a reason it’s like that and is explained in the game…

He’s not using AI, it’s just been the evolution of his art style. The original Catwoman in the bordello is ancient at this point. Artists change over time. He’s trended to more curvy designs over the years. Like it or don’t, I don’t really give any shits (I prefer his older more petit stuff), but the confidence people state things they have no evidence of on this forum is baffling.

 

[SoulFoZoid]

No one will listen but rather than Sunset training an AI and exacerbating the problem by incorporating recent fucked up proportions like Catwoman here,
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I think he should just make use of a 3D modeling program like Designdoll for reference posing purposes first, then draw over the doll outlines with his signature style:
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His earlier conversation sprite anatomy was extremely good for both petite and tall body types(looking at you, old school leftmost Wonder Woman)
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So if he went the 3D software route to make reference poses, he could start by turning his drawn sprites into a background/template then customizing a doll OVER those images until the proportions with that pose match. Exact realism obviously isn’t the true goal, matching his Bruce Timm inspired look is. Things like head size compared to torso height, leg length, shoulder width etc. If he had those two basic petite/tall builds made, he could work on making variations for in-between types or outliers like Giganta or Volcana’s longer legs. Then work on building the Lex model taller than most of the women until it looks decent too since he’ll use it the most.

He only has to get it right once and he could reuse the models forever to pose them with always consistent proportions—as long as they’re saved and labeled. It would really shine doing complex scenes like the bordello gangbangs, where many heads arms hands and feet are at crazy angles to each other. Then he could lock the poses in place and pan the camera around for alternate penetration/oral angles or, if he’s also feeling too lazy to draw feet that day, just zoom the camera in or pan until they’re cropped out for that particular reference pose.

Let me explain why this is happening it's a well know phenomena of porn degradation
the original art followed the character design of the DC characters in a pinup format.
The scope was to keep the same designs and body proportions but exaggerate certain parts.
In this case it was to make a more natural body type with the characters original proportions.

In the discord I explained my distain of Wonder Woman exaggerated muscle build proportions and several people agreed with my perception and Sunset redone the doll sprite twice.

Now here is an example of Artemis



The reason this happens is because the artist is no longer referencing the original character design, he is referencing his drawings made already and exaggerating the features again.

This is with how a majority of artist eventually degrade their art.


There is no solution to this because calling them out on how their art is degrading is mean spirited and will only make the artist not draw in the future.
If some artist do figure out this then try to draw better legs not hips, ass or big boobs and people don't vote for bigger boobs or bigger ass. Make your voice heard as a patreon on the discord.

 

[dr_dro]

Your save games are stored in the registry. All you have to do is download someone's save and open them, it will ask about the replacement, you hit "ok" and that's it. There is only 3 save slots, so I don't think it will be hard to figure out which one is new.

Any info about MacOS saves?
Can I use those reg files somehow?

 

[Swallows999]

Let me explain why this is happening it's a well know phenomena of porn degradation
the original art followed the character design of the DC characters in a pinup format.
The scope was to keep the same designs and body proportions but exaggerate certain parts.
In this case it was to make a more natural body type with the characters original proportions.

In the discord I explained my distain of Wonder Woman exaggerated muscle build proportions and several people agreed with my perception and Sunset redone the doll sprite twice.

Now here is an example of Artemis

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The reason this happens is because the artist is no longer referencing the original character design, he is referencing his drawings made already and exaggerating the features again.

This is with how a majority of artist eventually degrade their art.
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There is no solution to this because calling them out on how they art is degrading is mean spirited and will only make the artist not draw in the future.
If some artist do figure out this then try to draw better legs not hips, ass or big boobs and people don't vote for bigger boobs or bigger ass. Make your voice heard as a patreon on the discord.

Thank you for advocating for the original art, especially with Wonder Woman. I was starting to think I was the only one. I've been scouring the internet to commission someone that can do the Bruce Timm style relatively accurately and I noticed the same thing with the artist you posted.

It's a real shame, it feels like they're not even the same character anymore. It's a drawing of a pornstar cosplaying as the character.

 

[The French Tickler]

There is no solution to this because calling them out on how their art is degrading is mean spirited and will only make the artist not draw in the future.

Good.

 

[Sacra_Umbra]

Any info about MacOS saves?
Can I use those reg files somehow?

Sorry, can't help you with that. Never used Mac in my life.

 

[Testerguy19]

I wish all the women would come in all shapes and sizes like the original and not come in the same copy and paste format...like look at the diverse styles in the male characters, like how far the art quality has exaggerated and fallen

But again we've got the fan art thread which has the spirit and consistency to rectify/improve on that

 

[Mishanya1004]

No one will listen but rather than Sunset training an AI and exacerbating the problem by incorporating recent fucked up proportions like Catwoman here,

I'll just say that for me this looks fucking horrific. Jesus, are those tits or tumors? When Sunset started out he actually had a pretty decent style, one that approximated - but didn't copy from - Bruce Timm's. I have not yet reached the new content but if this is the type of art he's using then I don't want to.

What's even worse than the (potential) use of AI (for me) is honestly how...generic it now looks? Like, this chick is the dime-a-dozen hentai inflated doll that I see on pixiv and Rule 34 in spades. There is nothing special there anymore. When he started out it looked like it could fit in the DCAU as I knew it, the one I grew up with.

If it isn't AI and just his art developing, then it definitely did not (for me) develop in any good direction.

This is exactly what having a posable Lex 3D model scaled appropriately to the women could solve. In the recent scenes not just in Gotham, sometimes it looks like he stumbled during the planning stages and the result is drawing absurdly long dicks even by Something Unlimited standards

It’s like he went Oh shit I got the perspective sizes relative to the background for the sex act I want wrong, better extend his dick so it makes contact with her face. If he plugs this kind of data into training his AI model going forward, the problems will continue because the root problem was never solved.

Damn, I have seen lots of people say "I have a snake in my pants!" but never seen anyone have it literally.

 

[FractalOZero]

Does anyone have a guide to 2.4? I would like to know if I already have all the costumes with which I completed the cell events and how to continue the story (Note: I haven't completed everything until 2.4, so I'm missing things from previous versions too )

 

[IAmRatchet]

For me it's a shame how the game is crashing. I really liked this game at the beginning, but I don't like the recent changes where the female bodys getting bigger and bigger. The breasts and butts are getting bigger and bigger and so are the muscles and body sizes. I miss the variety from the beginning. I used to be happy when updates came out, but now I still have hope for something good, but I'm just disappointed. Amazon island is not my thing at all, there are one or two that I like, but these muscle-packed male bodies, nothing happens in my pants. At the yacht event where Circe appeared I liked her a lot, but on Amazon Island I don't find her so attractive anymore. of catwoman, I don't want to begin to talk about how disappointed I am. MB Catwoman was perfekt. Gotham City Catwoman -______- I want all women to return to their original body mass.

Same. This has been a problem since he “updated” the body models years ago. You look at how they were designed before and it was much more varied. Now, everyone looks like a blowup doll. Maybe that’s some people’s thing but boy it’s a huge turnoff. I like big tits and ass too but if EVERY girl has it? Well, it’s like that old Syndrome quote…

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[lockerxx]

nobody post the preview?

 

[1138op]

nobody post the preview?

I think interest in this game has gone down the last few releases.
It used to be that people were exited about it, but the ever increasing delays, and now art shift has probably caused people to be 'meh' about it.

Yeah, this is a pirate website and for the dev that is great news, but the last year I've seen people be way more exited about what fanart was released than the game itself.

 

[TheSinful]

I think interest in this game has gone down the last few releases.
It used to be that people were exited about it, but the ever increasing delays, and now art shift has probably caused people to be 'meh' about it.

Yeah, this is a pirate website and for the dev that is great news, but the last year I've seen people be way more exited about what fanart was released than the game itself.

Reckon that's what happens when you compound not fulfilling promises with announcing you're going to use AI art.

 

[johnysanchez01]

I really liked this game at the beginning, but I don't like the recent changes where the female bodys getting bigger and bigger. The breasts and butts are getting bigger and bigger and so are the muscles and body sizes. I miss the variety from the beginning.

This is a pretty common thing for amateur artists where if they aren't able to actually improve their drawing ability they either start hyper-exaggerating boobs/butts/dicks or veer into depicting increasingly degenerate acts. Or both.

The point made about porn art degradation from artists increasingly using their own work as references instead of the original ones is an excellent one, and it explains a lot of why so many amateur artists stagnate or regress since they're so used to closely adhering to references and outright tracing.

 

[Oriandu]

To be fair, SR7 isn't an "amateur" artist. He's been drawing rule34 content for a very, very long time, pretty sure it's well over a decade at this point. What we're seeing isn't degradation of skill, or SR7 using his own artwork as reference causing proportion issues. Is he probably using his old artwork to provide a basis for his current stuff? Yes. Is it why his new stuff looks bad? No. The new Catwoman is a good example of this as we have no previous sexual content to go by and her previous design was essentially a slightly bustier take on the BTAS design.

The difference between the new and the old is too severe for it to simply be degradation of style. This is a conscious shift in artistic style to facilitate faster creation of content and to pander to the support base he and his partner have cultivated. What we're seeing is a decision to cut away as much variety as possible, where the only body types are busty, bustier, and even bustier with muscles. Even if we ignore the fact that he's copy-pasting characters together resulting in deformed monstrosities, or that Lex has a telescopic dick that in some scenes looks only slightly larger than average and in others is like a foot and a half long and thicker than a can of coke, or that he's stopped maintaining a consistent design across content, the fact of the matter is that he's reduced his art style of a "one size fits all" take on the characters where the resemblance to the DCAU originals ceases outside of their faces. This is too specific and targeted of a shift for it to actually be degradation.

 

[Fapokso]

I think interest in this game has gone down the last few releases.
It used to be that people were exited about it, but the ever increasing delays, and now art shift has probably caused people to be 'meh' about it.

Yeah, this is a pirate website and for the dev that is great news, but the last year I've seen people be way more exited about what fanart was released than the game itself.

Devs went quiet
Just a quick glance at their pateron and they really slowed down on updates

 

[Fapokso]

Reckon that's what happens when you compound not fulfilling promises with announcing you're going to use AI art.

This gets me wondering if the devs realized that ai art isn't as simple as writing some lines together (if you are teaching the program yourself) I mean hell they couldn't even make a mock up to show patrons why it's useful and ripped it off some image on a other thread on this site