Unity Something Unlimited [v2.4.8] [Gunsmoke Games]

[Sacra_Umbra]

You, sir, aren't a clown. You are the whole fucking circus.

Мишаня, а ты всё верен традициям - как всегда навалил базы.
С Пасхой, кстати!

 

[Sergiv2001]

Мишаня, а ты всё верен традициям - как всегда навалил базы.
С Пасхой, кстати!

Полсотни постов - и уже традиция Я тоже так хочу . Про Светлое Пасхальное Воскресение - аналогично.

Fifty posts - and it's already a tradition I want that too . About Bright Easter Sunday - I say the same.

 

[Percipere0]

I was just simply popping by here to see how it was all going, and it seems that all is not well. If Gunsmoke is still perusing the comments... I would like to inquire on the state of BoB2, since the last major Patreon post on it said it was due 2024, and that has gone and passed by with no news that I can see. Although, judging by the state of the page here, my wishes remain mere optimism.

 

[Mishanya1004]

I was just simply popping by here to see how it was all going, and it seems that all is not well. If Gunsmoke is still perusing the comments... I would like to inquire on the state of BoB2, since the last major Patreon post on it said it was due 2024, and that has gone and passed by with no news that I can see. Although, judging by the state of the page here, my wishes remain mere optimism.

Look man, it would actually be less of a wasted effort to try and make that avatar of yours into reality, and then reshaping the entirety of the world according to what you see as the objective best outcome for humankind than wait for a sequel to BoB.

Мишаня, а ты всё верен традициям - как всегда навалил базы.
С Пасхой, кстати!

Спасибо, тебе тоже!

The delay shouldn't be because of Unity engine either. He could've completed Themyscira in Unity, then started part 2 of the game in Renpy.
If you're a shitty coder, just use renpy. If you can't write event dialog, chat gpt can help you out, with minor tweaks.

Which makes this thing even more frustrating. I'm no expert in eroge's of any kind, but if stuff like Doomination or Rogue-like Evolution can achieve better results within a similar or even smaller (in the case of Doomination, much smaller) timeframe, partially because of their use of Ren'Py, SR7 and Gunsmoke have even less excuses for this crap.
Switch to Ren'py, speed up development, and then only take time to draw art. Hell, a fully functioning Ren'Py port of this very game already exists on this website, and all Gunsmoke has to do is politely ask if he can use it.
And as far as dialogue goes - there are plenty of ways to circumvent the internal barriers built into LLM's like Gemini or ChatGPT and they all produce rather decent results (provided you give them the right instructions, which is more trial-and-error but also quite self-explanatory once you get the basics down). I have gotten some insane results from Gemini qua erotic writing, shit that beats a fuckton of actual fanfics I've read in the past.
All that is stopping Gunsmoke, to me, is laziness and stubbornness.

But hey, if he's willing to engage in dialogue (which I doubt) then I'd be more than happy to listen out why he hasn't done all these things, or why he hasn't started out in Ren'Py to begin with. And yes, that involves actual explainers behind the scenes, not the usual "it takes a lot of effort" stuff because we know it doesn't.

 

[shzilla]

At this point he is just milking his subs to see how long can he do nothing while still getting paid.

 

[TalianaTheBloodMage]

Hi all, I'm just playing through and completed the Yatch event with Talia. Talia showed up in the office the first time (after I completed Cheshire cell stuff and got her as henchwoman) but never again. How do I reach the Nanda Parbat event's orgy scene? Using cheat just automatically unlock the Nanda Parbat place and not the orgy scene. Alternatively does anybody have a recording of that orgy scene with Talia, Lady Shiva and Cheshire?

Thanks.

 

[Fapokso]

At this point he is just milking his subs to see how long can he do nothing while still getting paid.

At this point?
lol
Where have you been

 

[Mishanya1004]

Hi all, I'm just playing through and completed the Yatch event with Talia. Talia showed up in the office the first time (after I completed Cheshire cell stuff and got her as henchwoman) but never again. How do I reach the Nanda Parbat event's orgy scene? Using cheat just automatically unlock the Nanda Parbat place and not the orgy scene. Alternatively does anybody have a recording of that orgy scene with Talia, Lady Shiva and Cheshire?

Thanks.

1) Go through this thread
2) Find a full safe-file
3) ???
4) Go and play a better game lmao (or don't, it is your choice tbh)

 

[sdfdsfdsfdsfd213123]

1) Go through this thread
2) Find a full safe-file
3) ???
4) Go and play a better game lmao

get mad over someone asking a question your just as pathetic as all of us

 

[Mishanya1004]

get mad over someone asking a question your just as pathetic as all of us

The person asked for either a way to reach Nanda Parbat's orgy scene or a recording thereof. A fully unlocked safe file of the game fits within the parameters of the second part of that question.
As for the "find a better game", eh, maybe that was uncalled for but about 90 percent of this thread currently is shitting on the makers of SU so idk

 

[QuestionableNinja]

The person asked for either a way to reach Nanda Parbat's orgy scene or a recording thereof. A fully unlocked safe file of the game fits within the parameters of the second part of that question.
As for the "find a better game", eh, maybe that was uncalled for but about 90 percent of this thread currently is shitting on the makers of SU so idk

Part of the problem is there isn't a "better game", not really. I haven't got around to playing it yet but from what I've read in this thread and some others, Doomination is the closest competitor by some margin. That immediately goes poorly for the people who want DC characters. Even without the Marvel Vs DC war that I take no interest in since I like both, there are just more DC characters I like over Marvel and I'm sure that's true for many of us but going beyond that, SU uses an art style that is very nostalgic for a lot of fans whereas Doom has an art style that is... there. Not to insult HardCorn but the style just doesn't do it for me like the Timmverse style does. I also find Doom to be a much more cringeworthy character than Lex Luther but that might be a 'me issue' again.

I'm not entirely sure of who's doing what within GSG at this point but it sounds like SR7 is doing the bulk of things and ultimately serving as project lead. The more recent commentary about AI usage aside, most of us seem to agree he's a good artist and mostly seems good with concept writing, even if he sucks at finishing at something. This tells me he'd likely be better in an Art Director role with someone else as project lead, someone with a firmer hand who will push for deadlines.

Unless I'm missing something, this is a niche product with no true competition and people want to see better out of something that has started so well, that typically leads to vitriol and people spitting their dummies like we've been seeing here. If there was something else that catered to what this does, people wouldn't be sitting in this thread fuming about a lack of updates and such. The competition might also lead to more out of SU but it's hard to say since none of us really know if SR7 really is lazy, resting on his laurels or if working on the same project for so long has left him burnt out. SU is clearly a money-maker so it'd be dumb to abandon it but needing to keep working on such a project can have terrible effects on an artist.

For me personally, I'd love to know why they insist on continuing with Unity/Fungus if they're already transitioning to RenPy. Surely it'd be less effort to convert everything and re-release on RenPy instead of fighting with the dinosaur, right? And it's not like they don't have the assets, either monetary or the art and writing they've already made, but that one's my biggest grudge due to how many typos/errors I keep finding in the writing and wish it was possible for that stuff to get edited.

PS: Another fucking 'essay'. I really need to get better at this minimal-words discourse everyone uses on the internet.

 

[FreelancerFL]

mild criticism is now a direct attack guys no more talking about that which shall remain unnamed.


I guess I'll be back in like 5 months, the update will surly be out then... and hopefully the next update will be at least 1/8th the way finished.

 

[TheSinful]

mild criticism is now a direct attack guys no more talking about that which shall remain unnamed.


I guess I'll be back in like 5 months, the update will surly be out then... and hopefully the next update will be at least 1/8th the way finished.

At least I'm not stuck being the optimistic one

 

[QuestionableNinja]

mild criticism is now a direct attack guys no more talking about that which shall remain unnamed.

Calling the developer lazy, a clown and accusing them of AI usage, not putting in any effort and knowingly milking funds from supporters aren't "mild criticism", they're personal attacks. Whether any or all of the above are justified is a very different matter, but your attempt at a censorship deflection despite not having been personally accused of doing so speaks to a persecution complex or perhaps a sense of guilt for wrongdoing. Either way, people are still going to be in here asking when the next update is coming or complaining about the game or the developer because they've got nothing better to do or nowhere else to go, despite Mishanya1004's claim that people have reverse-engineered the game and made a better product. If that were true, people would be playing that instead of bitching in here.

 

[Erebus69]

Calling the developer lazy, a clown and accusing them of AI usage, not putting in any effort and knowingly milking funds from supporters aren't "mild criticism", they're personal attacks.

Who are you to the devs? Because you sure have been white knighting their continued and repeated behaviors since this game was released 10ish years ago. You seem very defensive of them and are trying to tone police people's conversations on a porn pirating message site. Discussing productivity, AI usage, perceived and/or deceptive strategic delays for subscription renewals (a common issue with amateur porn game devs ) are all valid points of discussion and critique.

Also if being called a clown is offensive then we all need to have much bigger concerns for humanity

 

[QuestionableNinja]

Who are you to the devs? Because you sure have been white knighting their continued and repeated behaviors since this game was released 10ish years ago. You seem very defensive of them and are trying to tone police people's conversations on a porn pirating message site. Discussing productivity, AI usage, perceived and/or deceptive strategic delays for subscription renewals (a common issue with amateur porn game devs ) are all valid points of discussion and critique.

Also if being called a clown is offensive then we all need to have much bigger concerns for humanity

Absolutely nobody. I don't know them and am not even in their Discord, I'm pretty sure they booted me, in fact. And your claims of my behaviour for 10 years are more than a little bold considering I've only been in this thread since September 2024 and only posted my first comment at the end of February this year. That can easily be verified on my profile, if you'd like. I'll even save you some time, it's on page 3. I'm merely playing devil's advocate where I feel like it and calling out bullshit when needed. This supposed "mild criticism" was left behind some time ago and has often devolved into hate posting which is just as tiresome as the constant requests for the update release, the latter of which is actual laziness since it doesn't take scrolling through as much as a page or two to see a lack of news or progress and the search button is right. there. The other side of the coin that is your point of it being a porn pirating site is that some of the messages on here start sounding more than a little deranged, as if anyone here is owed anything. It's excessive.

Beyond that, I'm sharing insight. This belief that genai is as simple as "just slap a couple words in a generator" is outright false, for example. Yes, you can get a serviceable image by doing that, barely, but if you need even 2 images to work cohesively for a scene, you'd be at it for hours for a single image, generating or editing over and over again. Unless SR7 has sprained his wrist and can't draw for several weeks or months, it makes no sense to use it for how scenes work in SU. As for your other points, I don't disagree, they're valid points worth discussing and critiquing, I'm only putting forward potential scenarios. I absolutely have my problems with the game and the way it's being managed, you seem to have missed the times I've voiced them such as here, here and here but I don't bother as much since pretty much everyone else has got the issues I'd have to voice covered quite loudly already.

And no, calling someone a clown isn't particularly offensive, but that's not the point. It's still an insult and to hide behind this excuse of "voicing critique" is disingenuous. Hell, if you want to call someone a lying cunt, go for it, you're perfectly entitled to insult someone even if it is tiring to be reading constantly, just don't act the coward and say it's just critique when it's not. We can all be civil here and there's absolutely no value in throwing insults around, but the fact that Freelancer was hiding behind that pathetic excuse and me calling it out was your concern tells me you're only here to act like a stroppy 13 year old who really wants to use the bad words he just learnt.

 

[Mishanya1004]

Calling the developer lazy, a clown and accusing them of AI usage, not putting in any effort and knowingly milking funds from supporters aren't "mild criticism", they're personal attacks. Whether any or all of the above are justified is a very different matter, but your attempt at a censorship deflection despite not having been personally accused of doing so speaks to a persecution complex or perhaps a sense of guilt for wrongdoing. Either way, people are still going to be in here asking when the next update is coming or complaining about the game or the developer because they've got nothing better to do or nowhere else to go, despite Mishanya1004's claim that people have reverse-engineered the game and made a better product. If that were true, people would be playing that instead of bitching in here.

My claim can be true and people can still be stuck in this thread - mostly because the guy who was making the ren'py mod quit before he got to the events.

These two are not mutually exclusive.

As for the personal attacks, idk how long you have been playing this fucking game but like I said, I have been following SR7 and his "creation" since before Covid. In that time I've managed to switch universities, lose two jobs, start a new study, and change computers like 3 or 4 times.
Meanwhile SU is still the same game as it was back when I first downloaded it, as far as the material that 90 percent of the user base will touch is concerned.
Sure, he has made "events" but the problems/requests people had for ages such as lessening the grind, expanding upon the bare-bones dialogue, adding more options with already existing heroines or hell, even returning the deleted "threat level" mechanic from earlier versions (something that people have been asking for in his Discord for ages) have still not been addressed in any capacity.

Do I agree with you about the fact that SR7 is a better creative director/artist than programmer? Yeah, of course. There is nothing to talk about there.

But two things are also a fact outside of that:
- Multiple people are working on SU (we know for a fact it isn't a solo venture from SR7)
- His art has significantly declined from the Bruce Timm/JLU-inspired artwork from the past to a much more generic hentai style.

Which is and still remains my main point.

You cannot have a whole team working for you, earn a large amount of money, not even bother to insert features people have been asking about for nearly 7 years and use the same excuses about "difficulty" and "communication issues" you had been spouting on fucking Reddit a decade ago (which SR7 did, and you can check for yourself if you want to).

On top of that, I DO think it is a bit weird that despite a team of at least two (if not more) people working on SU (and its art, since the person behind the sadly abandoned Project Winter Heroines did go on record saying they are doing artwork for SU) the end product is less in quality than the solo ventures of Doomination (which has reached the same level of content and development in 3 years) or Behind the Doom (much less content but better and more realistic artwork than either of the former with a truly engaging gameplay loop).
And I'm not even talking about games released in the same timeperiod as SU, like Rogue-like Evolution, which is just miles ahead on every conceivable level.

To address some of your other points:

Beyond that, I'm sharing insight. This belief that genai is as simple as "just slap a couple words in a generator" is outright false, for example. Yes, you can get a serviceable image by doing that, barely, but if you need even 2 images to work cohesively for a scene, you'd be at it for hours for a single image, generating or editing over and over again.

I know that. I literally said that I use GenAI for text writing (since fanfics do not always cater to my particular fetishes lmao, and GenAI often fills that niche quite nicely). I understand that it isn't just slapping a couple of words in a generator and calling it a day. However, at the same time, this very site ALSO has a thread featuring dozens of pages of (among others) AI-generated fan-art based on the game, done by people who do NOT earn money via Patreon. And their AI-generated imagery is actually BETTER than the (supposedly) human art produced by SR7 at this point. If that's the case, and he's too lazy to actually create good art then why not, really? God knows people would probably like it more. On top of that, I expanded my point in another comment where I admitted that yes, art may not be as easy as people think it is but streamlining dialogue and writing can absolutely be done through GenAI. Take it from someone who cranks out thrice as much text as he would writing himself by using Google AI studios. Hell, I'm even willing to share the exact specific instructions I use for it.

And no, calling someone a clown isn't particularly offensive, but that's not the point. It's still an insult and to hide behind this excuse of "voicing critique" is disingenuous. Hell, if you want to call someone a lying cunt go for it, you're perfectly entitled to insult someone even if it is tiring to be reading constantly, just don't act the coward and say it's just critique when it's not.

IDK what that guy was about honestly. I was not voicing fair critique, I was absolutely just calling him a lying fucking wormy cunt bastard lmao, cause yeah, I'm this bitter at that point.
And this thread has long veered from "fair and reasonable critique" methinks.

 

[Erebus69]

And your claims of my behaviour for 10 years

The Dev's behavior, I knew you would misread that.

calling out bullshit when needed.

And what I'm doing to you

This supposed "mild criticism" ...

Yet your trying to police their thoughts on a porn pirating site

the search button is right. there. ... messages on here start sounding more than a little deranged

Welcome to the internet, its annoying, sometimes its trolling, sometimes it's bots scraping content, and sometimes it people that dont care

messages on here start sounding more than a little deranged

pot meet kettle

We can all be civil here

 

[Fapokso]

AI gets announced for the game
Updates take a noticeable decline
What did they mean by this?

 

[Deleted member 3428287]

I recall one of the devs saying they've planned for 1 big gotham update and 1 big themyscira update this year.

i think that's gonna be it, 1 update by june and 1 update by Christmas.