Unity Something Unlimited [v2.4.8] [Gunsmoke Games]

[Pablillo1]

Hey, for all those who think we're morons for doing events in Ren'py, or those who legit are confused about the direction this post is for you. It's a free post btw

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Look, I'm going to speak for myself, and whoever wants to agree with me can agree. I don't care that much about the story; what matters to me is that it's a version of Lex Luthor who has sex with the entire DC universe and as many characters as possible.
Just that. I hope they keep working on Themyscira because we've been waiting a long time for the scenes with Hippolyta.
Best wishes for the project and hope they make a lot of money

 

[john_1865]

"{from the patreon post} Now, by using Ren’Py, we can present them as their own focused experiences with a clear story arc that moves things forward. "

 

[CorruptedSuperwoman]

While I respect the transparency, it kind of shows a glaring issue. And that is…if the engine of Unity is causing problems, then don’t use it.


as Ren’Py seems easier to use than Unity, it would make more sense if you just make a little conclusion and then make


‘SOMETHING UNLIMITED 2’ or ‘SOMETHING UNLIMITED:SUBTITLE’


Because right now, you continuing with the engine of Unity and knowing the frustrations of it, it doesn’t make sense that you are continuing with it.

Other adult game devs would put a little conclusion like how you say of the events being visual novels, then make the sequel from the ground up with the ren’py engine continuing the events of the last game. That way you don’t have to mess around with events and splice them away from the main game…if the main game is made entirely using Ren’py because right now you are trying to keep a dying engine alive, it’s coughing and and it’s messing up a lot of the time. It’s time to let’s it die and make the sequel and leave the Unity Engine to the dust. You mentioned remaking the entire game on ren’py would take dozens of resources and with this, you don’t have to.

 

[rgrtbrtbrtbr]

I think part of the problem is that the game is going in like 3 different directions.

There's:
1. The original gameplay, which I would say is strip club + brothel + villains visiting Lex's room
2. The cells/training (plus Raven)
3. New locations like Nanda Parbat and Themyscera
4. The events

I think a lot of players are here for 1 and 2, and don't care as much for 4. I think a lot of people just wanna bang heroes, and don't care as much about the storyline. Which is kind of weird and hard to follow, since replayability is hard with the event structure.

 

[CorruptedSuperwoman]

I think part of the problem is that the game is going in like 3 different directions.

There's:
1. The original gameplay, which I would say is strip club + brothel + villains visiting Lex's room
2. The cells/training (plus Raven)
3. New locations like Nanda Parbat and Themyscera
4. The events

I think a lot of players are here for 1 and 2, and don't care as much for 4. I think a lot of people just wanna bang heroes, and don't care as much about the storyline. Which is kind of weird and hard to follow, since replayability is hard with the event structure.

But it seemed like underneath it all in the cell content, there was a storyline and that was the oncoming war against the League. There was hints that he wasnt just using the devices to just bang DC heroines. He was also using it to corrupt them to turn against the League(Like the third upgrade option int the devices and the conversations Lex had with Lois about hinting about upgrading the devices alongside preparing the war against the league ). I thought that was the main plot.

At least in Doomination, even when corrupting heroines, the plot is always getting revenge on the Marvel heroes that left him defeated, theres always a goal thats clear, even when corrupting the heroines through their lust But with this, its
Plot A:War against the Justice League
Plot B:Luthor vs Grodd(Unfinished!)
Plot C:League Of Shadows
Plot D:Almerac
Plot E:Themyscyra
Plot F:Gotham
Plot G:Medieval
Plot H:Apokolips

And most of them are just parties where you meet DC characters just to bang them, the device option is just completely forgot about. The main brothel management system is not even part of the new events so whats the point?.

Just make Something Unlimited 2 because you are hurting your own progress by being stubborn in keeping this engine, you are frustrating and confusing your own fanbase...Fans that in the about section of the game, the MAIN appeal, the main draw that they play for of the game is to corrupt DC heroines and manage them in your own brothel. You say it divides away from the plot, then surely you can find a way to make it part of the plot. My opinion and Im going to be honest;the events are the ones that are pushing us away from the main plot, with what was interesting to us in the first place.

If they just want to play an event based game where they bang Heroines, theres a game called 'Hero Party' that does that. Its basically junk food if you just want to bang characters from both Marvel and DC. The events are not what I play Something Unlimited for,its not what was the premise of the game was about and I would really prefer you make the second one entirely from Ren'py instead like for an analogy, trying to keep an old rusty dying car drive a little bit more. Let it Die.

 

[CorruptedSuperwoman]

I’m glad that the legacy content is not being ignored,just the events being focused on. For a minute there, I thought the events was going to finish Something Unlimited completely. I still prefer for them to make a sequel to get away from the problems of the old, but I’ll take what I can get.

 

[rgrtbrtbrtbr]

And most of them are just parties where you meet DC characters just to bang them

I think this is a big part of why the events are a bit lackluster. Personally I really liked the mind control and slow breakdown of each of the heroes. The events are so often "three scenes with each new girl and she jumps your bones".

 

[CorruptedSuperwoman]

I think this is a big part of why the events are a bit lackluster. Personally I really liked the mind control and slow breakdown of each of the heroes. The events are so often "three scenes with each new girl and she jumps your bones".

Unless they can bring that aspect into the upcoming events, that would be the thing that would make them redeemable

 

[Gunsmoke Games]

Look, I'm going to speak for myself, and whoever wants to agree with me can agree. I don't care that much about the story; what matters to me is that it's a version of Lex Luthor who has sex with the entire DC universe and as many characters as possible.
Just that. I hope they keep working on Themyscira because we've been waiting a long time for the scenes with Hippolyta.
Best wishes for the project and hope they make a lot of money

"{from the patreon post} Now, by using Ren’Py, we can present them as their own focused experiences with a clear story arc that moves things forward. "

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I think part of the problem is that the game is going in like 3 different directions.

There's:
1. The original gameplay, which I would say is strip club + brothel + villains visiting Lex's room
2. The cells/training (plus Raven)
3. New locations like Nanda Parbat and Themyscera
4. The events

I think a lot of players are here for 1 and 2, and don't care as much for 4. I think a lot of people just wanna bang heroes, and don't care as much about the storyline. Which is kind of weird and hard to follow, since replayability is hard with the event structure.

This thread specifically in 2023-2024 made a point to focus on the lack of plot and unfinished events.

I think this is a big part of why the events are a bit lackluster. Personally I really liked the mind control and slow breakdown of each of the heroes. The events are so often "three scenes with each new girl and she jumps your bones".

I agree the corruption on the last two builds have taken a back seat to more power dynamics from Lex.

 

[Lynx123]

Since we have the developer's attention for a little bit, it would really tie the narrative together if the events affected the relevant characters in the base game (cells/bordello).
For example, Artemis becoming more lustful after the Gotham stuff, don't even necessarily need new art, just use some old sprites and add some dialogue, it would help a lot in giving the player the feeling that time did not stand still and Lex went on an irrelevant holiday.
It feels a little wasteful to corrupt the entirety of Themyscira, and not significantly advance Wonder Woman's (Donna and Cassie too) corruption in the cell content.

Also it would be nice to throw in a couple of updates (judging from the current release pace, 1 or 2 times a year) that finishes off the characters with missing Bordello content, or maybe squeeze in a character with another update whenever.


P.S. Dr. Light would be nice to have.

 

[Pablojamis]

I'd like them to continue the yacht and prison events. And it would be cool if, to advance through the events or interact with certain characters, you had to obtain items or crucial information to win over the female characters or convince the male characters. Don't you understand what I mean? I think they could make the game more entertaining and improve the events.

I hope to see all the poison ivy scenes from the yacht event in the future... someday...

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[xerxesxer]

in keeping this engine

It's not the engine that's kneecapping them, that's always been a bullshit excuse. Unity's been used for all kinds of games just fine

 

[nekkromenzer]

i'm all confused about the last infos : not sure to understand , this lack of releases is due to technical issues or structure and scenario issues ?? this is very confusing

 

[CorruptedSuperwoman]

i'm all confused about the last infos : not sure to understand , this lack of releases is due to technical issues or structure and scenario issues ?? this is very confusing

It sounds like back in 2023, they got alot of feedback of not focusing too much on the plot so the events is more their way of finishing it. Once they finish the events (alongside Medieval and Apokolips), they will go back to focus more on the main hub of the game.

 

[nekkromenzer]

It sounds like back in 2023, they got alot of feedback of not focusing too much on the plot so the events is more their way of finishing it. Once they finish the events (alongside Medieval and Apokolips), they will go back to focus more on the main hub of the game.

thank you i was afraid the game was dead..

 

[Perniciousducks]

It's not the engine that's kneecapping them, that's always been a bullshit excuse. Unity's been used for all kinds of games just fine

it’s not just Unity, it’s Fungus, the tool that is used to generate the Unity code. The version they use is 10+ years old, isn’t supported, isn’t upgradable without starting from scratch to a newer version that is supported, and this is by far the largest anything built with it, the developers of fungus are shocked this works at all.

Nobody writes or knows how to write Unity code on the team. It’s not an excuse, it’s just reality. Building in the GUI seems like it would be easy, but because the framework itself is old and full of bugs, it’s anyone’s guess why random shit breaks when they add to it and why they like to focus on things like events which can be mostly unconnected and won’t break the other areas that are currently functional.

 

[CorruptedSuperwoman]

it’s not just Unity, it’s Fungus, the tool that is used to generate the Unity code. The version they use is 10+ years old, isn’t supported, isn’t upgradable without starting from scratch to a newer version that is supported, and this is by far the largest anything built with it, the developers of fungus are shocked this works at all.

Nobody writes or knows how to write Unity code on the team. It’s not an excuse, it’s just reality. Building in the GUI seems like it would be easy, but because the framework itself is old and full of bugs, it’s anyone’s guess why random shit breaks when they add to it and why they like to focus on things like events which can be mostly unconnected and won’t break the other areas that are currently functional.

This is why I keep saying to make Something Unlimited 2 to get themselves away from the Fungus tool. Its seems with Ren’py they are able to make the game faster through these standalone updates. So I think after the events and the main plot is finished, have a little bit of a cliffhanger (I don’t know the Justice League ruins your operation) and Something Unlimited 2 has you starting from scratch in another location but your primary focus is not just to corrupt DC Heroines just to bang them and have them be in brothels even though that should still be an option, (because that’s awesome and all but it seems they have bigger plans with that third upgrade option) but to slowly corrupt them to turn them into Super Villains and have them turn against the League. Have them go on heists. Even help you find other DC characters to corrupt like Darci did with Lana.


This way wouldn’t require them to remake the entire game from scratch as it would take vast amount of ‘resources’ (even though you have that with the Patreon memberships), you would still be able to play the first SU, even update it to finish off some things from it (*Cough*Black Canary nicknames*Cough*Hawkgirl Nicknames) and I feel like it would be able to bookend that game for a better easier engine for the sequel with Ren’Py.

That’s my idea at least, others might have better ones.

 

[Erebus69]

This is why I keep saying to make Something Unlimited 2 to get themselves away from the Fungus tool. Its seems with Ren’py they are able to make the game faster through these standalone updates.

Ren'py is simplistic as it is focused on visual novels, as such it hamstrings development on larger more complex games. Especially for games such as SU that started as pseudo openworld rpg and are using modular dolls for the character scenes and animation.

 

[CorruptedSuperwoman]

Ren'py is simplistic as it is focused on visual novels, as such it hamstrings development on larger more complex games. Especially for games such as SU that started as pseudo openworld rpg and are using modular dolls for the character scenes and animation.

True, but we see another dev like Hardcorn use Ren'Py for their game 'Doomination' which its not a visual novel, its similar to Something Unlimited as its open world sandbox game with animated H scenes as well(which is amazing because animating takes alot of time) and it hasnt hamstrung their development, in fact they are more regular, monthly even. So I disagree completely that Ren'py is just focused on visual novels.

 

[kenny]

Ren'py is simplistic as it is focused on visual novels

That's SU

larger more complex games

That's not SU

Especially for games such as SU that started as pseudo openworld rpg

It was never an "RPG" and the openworld is the same as every other renpy sandbox on the site, of which there are probably near to the three digits at this point

are using modular dolls for the character scenes and animation.

A thing implemented in most 2d renpy games.

Also, it's hilarious to imply that moving to renpy would make updates faster/better/longer considering the latest trash heap took almost 4 months and was purely renpy.