Unity Something Unlimited [v2.4.8] [Gunsmoke Games]

[Gunsmoke Games]

At the end of the day it’s simple. If the core build isn’t being updated and content is released as separate apps, people will see them as separate projects. That’s just cause and effect. And no, I’m not being fooled into thinking you don’t listen. I’m saying you’re not actually addressing this point.

Honestly, if every bit of criticism turns into a fight like this, you might want someone else handling player relations, because this approach just escalates things and pushes people away. Attacking motives doesn’t make the issue go away.

Are you quoting our message from May of this year? And similar messages that have been shared throughout this thread? Because we have addressed people feeling they are separate. that is why we're currently pouring resources into converting our SU:Android to PC, for 8 months now.

Not every criticism turns into a fight if you accept the answer you're given instead of searching for the one you want. Narravtive matters and so does timeline. May we issue a statement on our direction of the "main game" praises from this thread. September we announce project evolution and now they want an abandoned tag. December we release an update and now it's you only update "spin offs", and an abandoned tag. This isn't a dodge this is reality.

I for one am really excited about the Ren'py build, especially because the Mercy scenes tend to crash when you run them on linux, but it has to be said that the community has been burned so many times by reworks, rebuilds, tech updates, and ports that the very concept is tainted. Summertime Saga and the like soured the concept so much that the community is unfairly treating Devs, but from a historical stand point changes like this are the signs of the beginning of the end. I hope Gunsmoke Games delivers and is shining example of a dev doing it right and not fucking over the community. Keep up the good work Gunsmoke Games we believe in you!

We're hoping it's right around the corner. We have meetings this week to set the direction and hopefully give a good idea of time line. Unity will be updated with all this content as well in the coming weeks.

Part of what's tickling people the wrong way is the timespan to achieve anything that we can see. Most people already don't understand game dev already, even when you factor in an engine as plug-n-play as Ren'Py, a lot of time gets sunk into making these games. We also can't ignore the trend of an easily-imagined line graph where income line goes up while the productivity line steadily goes down. Almost all of the biggest games on F95 (that I have experience with, at least), have progressed from an update every few months, to every 6 months, and then every year.

To GSG's credit, they have actually been releasing stuff. They aren't just sitting quiet. However, what they've been releasing ventures further down the spin-off route which alienates those who're waiting for it to be added to the main game to experience it. For the biggest update of the year to be a completely unrelated game, one with a concept that already has 2 projects, is just a kick in the nuts.

I want to say I appreciate you're comments QuestionableNinja. We needed to pivot, you can see we have a huge issue with SU, and that is size. Only a small portion of people get what they want, and eventually those people pile up and create a bunch of noise, and we shift, and the other pools fill up. We needed to pivot, plain and simple. If that pivot kicked you in the nuts I'm sorry, but the road we're on with SU is unsustainable at best. Moving to smaller projects, which SU argueably should have been (like imagine how much better if it was a bunch of smaller experiences that had way more polish). We're going to be moving more in that direction in the future.

On the subject of fans thinking they can do a better job, I've tried making a Ren'Py version too. I'm not a game dev by any stretch of the imagination but I was able to get my head around Ren'Py enough to start making a port. I don't think I can make a better game than GSG and I know I'd only be able to go as far as porting what exists since I have a -2 in my art stat. I do, however have extremely basic image editing skills enough to use the asset library to recreate art assets into Ren'Py-friendly versions and where I shine is my writing. I'm no acclaimed author but my writing is decent and I make a really good spell-check replacement. My one objective and pretty much the only thing I could bring to this project was my burning desire to see all the incredibly annoying and long-ignored typos and bad English corrected. Sadly, unlike GSG, I don't have the script assets lying around to copy and paste in and correct them as I went along so my energy ran out thanks to my ADHD dropping anchor with the insane amount of alt-tabbing I was having to do when transcribing the script from SU to my Ren'Py build and not being able to scroll back to anything you may or may not have missed or accidentally clicked past. If the game was already ported, I could quite easily fix the writing (spelling-and-wording-wise, not as plot critique) but with it being stuck on Unity, it's just a pain in the ass to do.

And I think that's pretty much where everyone else is at, just fatigue at not seeing progress on the original/core game for one reason or another. There's a lot of negative circle-jerking going on in this thread, but even as someone who's previously played Devil's Advocate, I can see where the negativity is coming from and how people are stewing in it.

Thanks for trying to quiet those who think something is easy, but it's a losing cause. We have spent a lot of money rebuilding SU, and tracking it slowly through multiple people. I have watched it be attempted 3+ times by the community (and now a 4th with you) and all end, not even near the finish line. That is why I fight so hard to keep the narrative clean Henshin alt+tab'ed for 4 years now, as there is no clean way to get text out of Unity.

As for "everyone else", yes there is a large contingent that want more progress on the original/core game, but even there it's all over the place. Bordello, cell content, etc are major askes, but in 2023-2024 the loud voices were cryng for plot, which we're working on now. The shifts in wants are very difficult to manage.

SU is the way it is, and it's not without problems. Complaining constantly and continuing to shift the narrative to try and get us to focus on what individuals would like is burning us out. We rather move on to small fun projects that get people excited. SU will live on, but it is what it is. It's a hot mess, but there is no other hot mess like it.

 

[QuestionableNinja]

but there is no other hot mess like it.

I honestly think this is the biggest gripe for a lot of people, particularly regarding the negative reception we saw to the announcement of Project Evolution. It's not that people don't want another X-Men game when there are already 2, every creator is going to bring some amount of different flavour to a game like that. I have yet to try PE so I'm not going to even try weigh-in on a quality comparison of PE against Rogue-Like and The Null Hypothesis, both of which have been updated in the past 12 months - but that's a completely different conversation. The biggest problem, in my opinion, is that people are desperately hungry (or thirsty in this particular market) for quality DC content, especially in the Timm-verse art style and there's only one project doing that. One that people aren't seeing getting updated.

Yes, it's unfair to say Something Unlimited isn't getting content when it clearly is in the form of Themyscira and Gotham but I also think it's not unfair for people to want a tag update on the SU page in the vein of On Hold or something since the standalone (no matter how to-be-changed that status is intended to be) games have their own pages that show those two are receiving updates and when the core game hasn't had a release update over X amount of time. Going off when the outcry started, I think roughly 1 year is the mark when people expect to see some kind of update to the product or the page.

Since I believe in giving suggestion along with critique, I'm going to make a suggestion on how to win some good will. I in no way think it'll please everyone and there will inevitably be people bitching. I'm also not going to hold you to an idea you haven't agreed to. Your product is to release as you see fit, after all. That said, my suggestion is releasing what you guys have achieved in those 8 months of development on the Android->PC Ren'Py port. It obviously won't be complete and people are going to complain about that fact but I think it's a solid good faith gesture to show what you guys have been toiling away on and the players get to witness something beyond the Patreon links in this thread.

I obviously can't promise this will happen, but with the release on a more modder-friendly engine, you may even see fans throwing in some effort to mod in story progressions and their own spin-off stories for the origin game than the spin-off ones. One thing I can say is that, if I find the effort to mod story into the game, both what you've already released in the Unity version, as well as original content made by me as a fan, you have my permission to fold what I create into the game with no payment due. I would only ask for writer's credit on any original story I write and you wouldn't be expected to use everything I write if I were to write multiple stories and you only like one, for example. I say this because I love the Timm-verse and want to see more of what Something Unlimited could be.

 

[DemonLord98]

Is there a way to have them strip and whore later in game with their minds intact or no. Only while mind controlled during sleep.

 

[Gunsmoke Games]

I honestly think this is the biggest gripe for a lot of people, particularly regarding the negative reception we saw to the announcement of Project Evolution. It's not that people don't want another X-Men game when there are already 2, every creator is going to bring some amount of different flavour to a game like that. I have yet to try PE so I'm not going to even try weigh-in on a quality comparison of PE against Rogue-Like and The Null Hypothesis, both of which have been updated in the past 12 months - but that's a completely different conversation. The biggest problem, in my opinion, is that people are desperately hungry (or thirsty in this particular market) for quality DC content, especially in the Timm-verse art style and there's only one project doing that. One that people aren't seeing getting updated.

I understand people want that, and we want that. But what we want more the to be the best parody porn creators on the planet. Not just DCAU. Go look at SR7's DBZ work, Gargoyles, shit I have hand drawn transformer shit in my house, and a mash up of Korra in Mad Max. He's a tremendous artist and myself and a whole lot of people think he's getting better.

Many of you don't know SR7 started doing FF7 art, and he was amazing at that 30 years ago.

Yes, it's unfair to say Something Unlimited isn't getting content when it clearly is in the form of Themyscira and Gotham but I also think it's not unfair for people to want a tag update on the SU page in the vein of On Hold or something since the standalone (no matter how to-be-changed that status is intended to be) games have their own pages that show those two are receiving updates and when the core game hasn't had a release update over X amount of time. Going off when the outcry started, I think roughly 1 year is the mark when people expect to see some kind of update to the product or the page.

Questionable, we have one page that is

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. If people want to source their info from this place as to when an update happens I can't stop that. But I can't fix it either.

The outcry started directly after the announcement of Project Evo. I have been around these places for a decade, I know a narrative shift when I see one. In May when the announcement was made on what we were doing there was general praise from people in here.

Since I believe in giving suggestion along with critique, I'm going to make a suggestion on how to win some good will. I in no way think it'll please everyone and there will inevitably be people bitching. I'm also not going to hold you to an idea you haven't agreed to. Your product is to release as you see fit, after all. That said, my suggestion is releasing what you guys have achieved in those 8 months of development on the Android->PC Ren'Py port. It obviously won't be complete and people are going to complain about that fact but I think it's a solid good faith gesture to show what you guys have been toiling away on and the players get to witness something beyond the Patreon links in this thread.

We announced this intention last month already, it was posted here (See how those crying don't mention it). We're actually updating the Unity version so it's going to be up to date with conten in a few weeks. Then do some comprehensive analysis of where the Ren'py>PC port stands and firm out expectationse. Just watch the narratvie shift when the Unity version is out.

I obviously can't promise this will happen, but with the release on a more modder-friendly engine, you may even see fans throwing in some effort to mod in story progressions and their own spin-off stories for the origin game than the spin-off ones. One thing I can say is that, if I find the effort to mod story into the game, both what you've already released in the Unity version, as well as original content made by me as a fan, you have my permission to fold what I create into the game with no payment due. I would only ask for writer's credit on any original story I write and you wouldn't be expected to use everything I write if I were to write multiple stories and you only like one, for example. I say this because I love the Timm-verse and want to see more of what Something Unlimited could be.

There is modder friendly stuff out and has been that way for two years now. No one modded anything, outside trying to prove we're shit, and failing at that.

We have a fan creation section on our discord, if a modder wants to engage in our community they get access to some resources. It would come with an official endorsement from us as well. I had geniune interest in it, but people like the scope of SU, but they hate what it takes to get to that scope.

Thanks for the suggestions Questionable I appreaciate it.

 

[Spartakos69]

Finish? I don't recall saying this was the finish. I for one know that we intend at least one more update to Themyscira in the future. Come to think of it, you might be the first and only person saying this is a finish on all our platforms.

I could have sworn that it was announced that Themiscyra would be getting wrapped up. If I'm mistaken in that regard, I apologize. But if so...that still isn't amazing, since I am nearly certain it was announced at some point in the past that Themyscira would be getting finished soon, and if that still hasn't happened?...

 

[Grimlock99]

I could have sworn that it was announced that Themiscyra would be getting wrapped up. If I'm mistaken in that regard, I apologize. But if so...that still isn't amazing, since I am nearly certain it was announced at some point in the past that Themyscira would be getting finished soon, and if that still hasn't happened?...

Probably one of their worst PR moves was annoucing the end of themyscira's "plot", what you're referring is that they annouced the end of the event's plotline (maxima arriving and all that) however content updates to themyscira will still come out, they worded it kind of bad plus bad actors on here try to sell that "THEMYSCIRA OVER AND FINISHED" when it was just the story part finished, the girl content was and is still being worked on.

 

[Gunsmoke Games]

Probably one of their worst PR moves was annoucing the end of themyscira's "plot", what you're referring is that they annouced the end of the event's plotline (maxima arriving and all that) however content updates to themyscira will still come out, they worded it kind of bad plus bad actors on here try to sell that "THEMYSCIRA OVER AND FINISHED" when it was just the story part finished, the girl content was and is still being worked on.

Excellent, summation. I may disagree with worst PR move lol but the rest is spot on.

I do want to add the by far largest complaint from this thread in 2022 and 100% in 2023 was lack of plot. There is now a plot.

 

[xslayermkdx]

Damn 1 Year still nothing they said by the end of the year People still paying for this?

 

[Erebus69]

There is modder friendly stuff out and has been that way for two years now. No one modded anything, outside trying to prove we're shit, and failing at that.

Where is this located on yalls discord?

 

[QuestionableNinja]

I understand people want that, and we want that. But what we want more the to be the best parody porn creators on the planet. Not just DCAU.

Then I'm sorry but this speaks to a lack of commitment to the project in my eyes. I don't doubt Sunset's artistic ability but seeing Bend or Break 2 picked up and put down with a single public release doesn't inspire confidence for Project Evolution and less so when announcement after announcement for SU comes and goes.

We're actually updating the Unity version so it's going to be up to date with conten in a few weeks.

If, from what I've seen on here about the complaints with Fungus is true, I don't see the point in splitting development resources between working on a Ren'Py port and crowbarring the Unity version to behave. I'm not going to be one of the people who say you guys are shit, I don't think that's true, but this all sounds like an alarming lack of focus, even if your team is significantly bigger than I estimate it to be. Even with Ren'Py being as accessible as it is, the work involved to make a Ren'Py version, a Unity version, updates for Gotham and Themyscira is already multiple teams' worth of visual, programming and QA assets and this is after you've spoken publicly about how massive of a task a rebuild of SU is. Your own words are that there will be an update in a few weeks. "Few" means a small number of something and typically less than several, so I'll eat my words if we get something by mid February, but otherwise, I'm afraid with how progress has been, still currently is and the projects GSG is reporting to be working on, I don't see SU ever getting a "Completed" tag, and by that first sentence it sounds like you guys are much more interested in the pursuit of "best" than finishing a project. With the gaming space being what it right now, the last thing players want or need right now is more on-going project games with no finish in sight. The best product is one that leaves the player satisfied, not the one that leaves them waiting on an update release date.

 

[Pablillo1]

Could someone tell me what all the scenes are in the latest update? I want to make sure I didn't miss any.

 

[Perniciousducks]

Then I'm sorry but this speaks to a lack of commitment to the project in my eyes. I don't doubt Sunset's artistic ability but seeing Bend or Break 2 picked up and put down with a single public release doesn't inspire confidence for Project Evolution and less so when announcement after announcement for SU comes and goes.


If, from what I've seen on here about the complaints with Fungus is true, I don't see the point in splitting development resources between working on a Ren'Py port and crowbarring the Unity version to behave. I'm not going to be one of the people who say you guys are shit, I don't think that's true, but this all sounds like an alarming lack of focus, even if your team is significantly bigger than I estimate it to be. Even with Ren'Py being as accessible as it is, the work involved to make a Ren'Py version, a Unity version, updates for Gotham and Themyscira is already multiple teams' worth of visual, programming and QA assets and this is after you've spoken publicly about how massive of a task a rebuild of SU is. Your own words are that there will be an update in a few weeks. "Few" means a small number of something and typically less than several, so I'll eat my words if we get something by mid February, but otherwise, I'm afraid with how progress has been, still currently is and the projects GSG is reporting to be working on, I don't see SU ever getting a "Completed" tag, and by that first sentence it sounds like you guys are much more interested in the pursuit of "best" than finishing a project. With the gaming space being what it right now, the last thing players want or need right now is more on-going project games with no finish in sight. The best product is one that leaves the player satisfied, not the one that leaves them waiting on an update release date.

this reads to me like all the nonsense in this thread. You have opinions and you have this notion that because you have these opinions all or at least a majority of others share this opinion.

I’m not thrilled with wasting more time on fungus, but that doesn’t really effect the ren’py release as SR7 does the fungus shit and Henshin works on Ren’py, because as has been stated many times, SR7 does not code. The work between the stand alones and the whole Ren’py version is minimal as most of that it copy/paste over between the two, except the assets used. I don’t recall the future of the stand alones as they’ll be relegated to Android at best due to space concerns? I’m not sure

As far as “finishing” SU, the people giving them money do not want that to happen, you can go read their suggestion channel, what they want is to keep adding more and more characters and more and more events. So, it seems to me, the voices that actually matter in this regard disagree with your notion that what the players don’t need is another ongoing game.

 

[QuestionableNinja]

this reads to me like all the nonsense in this thread. You have opinions and you have this notion that because you have these opinions all or at least a majority of others share this opinion.

I’m not thrilled with wasting more time on fungus, but that doesn’t really effect the ren’py release as SR7 does the fungus shit and Henshin works on Ren’py, because as has been stated many times, SR7 does not code. The work between the stand alones and the whole Ren’py version is minimal as most of that it copy/paste over between the two, except the assets used. I don’t recall the future of the stand alones as they’ll be relegated to Android at best due to space concerns? I’m not sure

As far as “finishing” SU, the people giving them money do not want that to happen, you can go read their suggestion channel, what they want is to keep adding more and more characters and more and more events. So, it seems to me, the voices that actually matter in this regard disagree with your notion that what the players don’t need is another ongoing game.

No, I don't presume to speak for everyone, just throwing in some insights.

I also don't read a lot of this thread for obvious reasons and I'm fine with being wrong. For example, I didn't know there was a different coder for the Ren'Py version. I knew SR7 didn't code but I vaguely remember a summary at some point that someone among the team had learnt Ren'Py and assumed that was the same person working on the assembly side of the project. I also recall seeing Henshin's name associated with Project Evolution though, so this doesn't change my opinion on splitting resources between SU, its spin-offs and PE.

As for "voices that matter", I'll say it's a good thing you don't represent GSG because I'd be fucking off if you were on the team. What you don't know is that I'm relevantly new to the game, having not seen a single update in the whole time I've been playing which has been a reason I've been progressing on it so slowly despite loving it and what I didn't include in my above messages is I'm otherwise only waiting on the Ren'Py version to throw some money GSG's way, some proof something's actually happening with it other than claims. So if paying customers are the voices that matter, I'm really doing my best to be one, and even then, I'm not making demands, I'm not spitting my dummy and calling GSG shit like so many here are. Instead, I've posted with insight on potential reasons for delays in the past, been respectful towards GSG, giving both fair criticism and what I intended to be helpful suggestion in what looks like a PR nightmare. I'm not an arse-kisser though so I'm absolutely going to call a line I see as a red flag exactly that and it'll hopefully help who I believe to be Smoke deliver a clearer message next time. But if your only care is to try put people down when they're genuinely trying to help, you can honestly go chomp a fat one because I have much better things to do than put up with brown-nosing in a market that has grown extremely volatile because of exactly this kind of attitude and approach.

 

[Gunsmoke Games]

Then I'm sorry but this speaks to a lack of commitment to the project in my eyes. I don't doubt Sunset's artistic ability but seeing Bend or Break 2 picked up and put down with a single public release doesn't inspire confidence for Project Evolution and less so when announcement after announcement for SU comes and goes.

Questioning our commitment after 10 years of consistent updates is hard to rationalize. Playing Project Evolution you immediately get a sense of scope. It's small, very small.

If, from what I've seen on here about the complaints with Fungus is true, I don't see the point in splitting development resources between working on a Ren'Py port and crowbarring the Unity version to behave. I'm not going to be one of the people who say you guys are shit, I don't think that's true, but this all sounds like an alarming lack of focus, even if your team is significantly bigger than I estimate it to be. Even with Ren'Py being as accessible as it is, the work involved to make a Ren'Py version, a Unity version, updates for Gotham and Themyscira is already multiple teams' worth of visual, programming and QA assets and this is after you've spoken publicly about how massive of a task a rebuild of SU is. Your own words are that there will be an update in a few weeks. "Few" means a small number of something and typically less than several, so I'll eat my words if we get something by mid February, but otherwise, I'm afraid with how progress has been, still currently is and the projects GSG is reporting to be working on, I don't see SU ever getting a "Completed" tag, and by that first sentence it sounds like you guys are much more interested in the pursuit of "best" than finishing a project. With the gaming space being what it right now, the last thing players want or need right now is more on-going project games with no finish in sight. The best product is one that leaves the player satisfied, not the one that leaves them waiting on an update release date.

SU is not ever going to be finished in any sense that would make you or I feel happy. It's to large to just stop, it's to large to "finish" to any sense of what this thread would even remotely accept, and we don't want to.

Lack of focus? Again this is hard to rationalize. Working on our projects, and consistently delivering on those things is the opposite of lack of focus. Read one page of this thread and you will see people in tears over the fact SU is in stand alones. Our Ren'py rebuild is not close as far as image quality concerns, but is very close if you zoom out and allow the different quality.

The real question for us is if the Ren'py rebuild passes our tests, then we can get it out quickly. If it fails then we need to find out a when. SR7 is going to jump into Unity and update it if those tests fail.

There is a saying I tell people all the time and I think it's relevant here. "It's easier to spend other peoples money than your own". Just because you would do something one way doesn't mean it's the best way for the other person. We're not struggling... we're pivoting.

 

[Bonger12345]

is it perhaps to much to ask for a full save?

 

[meepmeepimajeep]

Are you quoting our message from May of this year? And similar messages that have been shared throughout this thread? Because we have addressed people feeling they are separate. that is why we're currently pouring resources into converting our SU:Android to PC, for 8 months now.

Not every criticism turns into a fight if you accept the answer you're given instead of searching for the one you want. Narravtive matters and so does timeline. May we issue a statement on our direction of the "main game" praises from this thread. September we announce project evolution and now they want an abandoned tag. December we release an update and now it's you only update "spin offs", and an abandoned tag. This isn't a dodge this is reality.

You’re still not answering the point. You keep circling back to old announcements, timelines, and how you “addressed it” months ago, but that doesn’t actually change what players are seeing right now. If the core build hasn’t been updated in a long time and all new content is separate downloads, people are obviously going to see them as separate. That’s not some narrative people “want,” that’s just how it looks.

And saying “not every criticism turns into a fight if you accept the answer” is basically blaming people for not buying the explanation instead of actually addressing the problem. You’re acting like the timeline excuses the reality, when it doesn’t. Players don’t care about internal plans. They care about the thing they download.

Also, the whole “first they praised it, then after Evo they want an abandoned tag” thing is you rewriting the conversation to fit a story. People didn’t suddenly flip for no reason. They reacted to the fact that the main build still isn’t getting updates while everything else is happening around it. That’s not a narrative, it’s just a normal reaction.

You’re making this way worse by focusing on motives instead of the actual issue. If you want people to stop saying it looks abandoned, update the main build. If you don’t update the main build, people will keep saying it looks abandoned. It’s that simple.

 

[Weetbicks]

I remember this having the mind control tag, is that not prevalent anymore? Or does it still exist in the game, just that there's no new content of it in-game anymore?

 

[Gunsmoke Games]

You’re still not answering the point. You keep circling back to old announcements, timelines, and how you “addressed it” months ago, but that doesn’t actually change what players are seeing right now. If the core build hasn’t been updated in a long time and all new content is separate downloads, people are obviously going to see them as separate. That’s not some narrative people “want,” that’s just how it looks.

And saying “not every criticism turns into a fight if you accept the answer” is basically blaming people for not buying the explanation instead of actually addressing the problem. You’re acting like the timeline excuses the reality, when it doesn’t. Players don’t care about internal plans. They care about the thing they download.

Also, the whole “first they praised it, then after Evo they want an abandoned tag” thing is you rewriting the conversation to fit a story. People didn’t suddenly flip for no reason. They reacted to the fact that the main build still isn’t getting updates while everything else is happening around it. That’s not a narrative, it’s just a normal reaction.

You’re making this way worse by focusing on motives instead of the actual issue. If you want people to stop saying it looks abandoned, update the main build. If you don’t update the main build, people will keep saying it looks abandoned. It’s that simple.

The point has been answered in this post. In June of 2025

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People see them as separate, you mean like in June of 2025?

People are buying the explanation, you see it in this thread, more than you're white knighting for a few bad actors. The people who care about SU, know what's happening. Not the 5 or more people you're white knighting for.

People do flip for no reason, I've been in this market since our stuff was only talked about on 4chan in 2015. I have seen narratives flip very fast, especially when a handful of people are the ones actively doing so.

I'm not making it worse at all, we have had the lowest drop in patrons during billing ever. Loud voices are being drowned out by supporters. Don't believe me go here and see for yourself

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I'm not concerned about the loud voices you represent. We have it handled, thanks for the concern.

 

[Amit13093]

The point has been answered in this post. In June of 2025

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People see them as separate, you mean like in June of 2025?

People are buying the explanation, you see it in this thread, more than you're white knighting for a few bad actors. The people who care about SU, know what's happening. Not the 5 or more people you're white knighting for.

People do flip for no reason, I've been in this market since our stuff was only talked about on 4chan in 2015. I have seen narratives flip very fast, especially when a handful of people are the ones actively doing so.

I'm not making it worse at all, we have had the lowest drop in patrons during billing ever. Loud voices are being drowned out by supporters. Don't believe me go here and see for yourself

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I'm not concerned about the loud voices you represent. We have it handled, thanks for the concern.

Where can I find cheat mode?

 

[Mcknobz33]

The point has been answered in this post. In June of 2025

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People see them as separate, you mean like in June of 2025?

People are buying the explanation, you see it in this thread, more than you're white knighting for a few bad actors. The people who care about SU, know what's happening. Not the 5 or more people you're white knighting for.

People do flip for no reason, I've been in this market since our stuff was only talked about on 4chan in 2015. I have seen narratives flip very fast, especially when a handful of people are the ones actively doing so.

I'm not making it worse at all, we have had the lowest drop in patrons during billing ever. Loud voices are being drowned out by supporters. Don't believe me go here and see for yourself

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I'm not concerned about the loud voices you represent. We have it handled, thanks for the concern.

In that post you guys said "Once the first batch of re-exported images is done, we’ll send the new PC version your way. You won’t be left wondering. We’ll share a detailed rollout plan as we go." Soooooo where is that batch?