Carcosa_

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All images are drawn, speed is a priority, hence why many are relatively the same. If you want to see the process we save the last stream on our picarto.
So the game has no individual assets and every character/background is drawn from scratch every time?

I think we might've discovered the source of SR7's constant burnouts if that's the case.
 

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So the game has no individual assets and every character/background is drawn from scratch every time?

I think we might've discovered the source of SR7's constant burnouts if that's the case.
There is re-use of sprites with different arm positions, or facial expressions. Your question insinuated we just swapped heads on all characters . Each character has a different palate/colour scheme. But sex scenes, or costumes in those scenes really multiply the work. It's the fact we let the player choose the costume that really multiplies workload.
 

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Haven't played this game in a update or two now, but it's always been one of my favorites.
Mainly because of the amazing art-style.

Reading through the last couple pages, it seems that people are thinking that "why not put that BoB development time for SU as well"

I obviously can't look into your team's mind
But I can understand that after years and years drawing the same stuff, that you just need something different for once.
To keep motivation high and most important to recharge the batteries.

But I think that people are just really scared at the moment, scared that this game might be dying.
Lots of abandonment issues on F95(for good reason)

But you guys still have my trust.
The last 18 months(give or take).
You guys have been producing a lot of content, been open with the fans about the plan and going of things.
And most importantly for me, you guys have been transparent about things that go well, but also about the fuck-ups.

Keep doing what you guys have been doing, and I hope to see much more amazing SU content in 2020.
(Would hope to see some more Stargirl personally :) )
 

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Personally I'd like to see an expansion on some of the girls on the yacht even. I found out of all of them Morgana le fay the most interesting. With her unique appearance it could make for some interesting scenes
 

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Haven't played this game in a update or two now, but it's always been one of my favorites.
Mainly because of the amazing art-style.

Reading through the last couple pages, it seems that people are thinking that "why not put that BoB development time for SU as well"

I obviously can't look into your team's mind
But I can understand that after years and years drawing the same stuff, that you just need something different for once.
To keep motivation high and most important to recharge the batteries.

But I think that people are just really scared at the moment, scared that this game might be dying.
Lots of abandonment issues on F95(for good reason)

But you guys still have my trust.
The last 18 months(give or take).
You guys have been producing a lot of content, been open with the fans about the plan and going of things.
And most importantly for me, you guys have been transparent about things that go well, but also about the fuck-ups.

Keep doing what you guys have been doing, and I hope to see much more amazing SU content in 2020.
(Would hope to see some more Stargirl personally :) )
Abandon????? You boys are crazy! SR7 wants to keep doing SU forever. Even when we eventually add more projects (OC and such) SU will still see regular updates.
 

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Abandon????? You boys are crazy! SR7 wants to keep doing SU forever. Even when we eventually add more projects (OC and such) SU will still see regular updates.
SU being completed in 2050 confirmed!!! :LOL::ROFLMAO::LOL: jk, but in all seriousness, you guys keep doing your thing. You will always have my support!
 

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the sheer scale of this game is crazy lmao. i wonder what the rebuild will be like. i'm glad they ditched the early trash animations, stills are better tbh.

(bendorbreak2>su, fite me)
 

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There is re-use of sprites with different arm positions, or facial expressions. Your question insinuated we just swapped heads on all characters . Each character has a different palate/colour scheme. But sex scenes, or costumes in those scenes really multiply the work. It's the fact we let the player choose the costume that really multiplies workload.
Sure, but changing the palate/color scheme is still reusing the same asset.

Have you thought about just not adding so many costumes and focusing more on adding new scenes instead? SR7 complains about how monotonous his job is, but he's the one that decided to add so many costumes for every girl and to basically introduce the same sex progression in the cells.

SR7 wants to keep doing SU forever.
I don't think that's something you should be admitting.
 

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Well, maybe you should take a moment to add new characters and work on existing ones. For example, if each update one character is complete and one is added, why not make two characters complete? what do you think?
or maybe one complete and another incomplete that in the next update just complete and make another incomplete and so on.
 

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Sure, but changing the palate/color scheme is still reusing the same asset.

Have you thought about just not adding so many costumes and focusing more on adding new scenes instead? SR7 complains about how monotonous his job is, but he's the one that decided to add so many costumes for every girl and to basically introduce the same sex progression in the cells.


I don't think that's something you should be admitting.
It's not using the same asset at all! There has been a guy around for the last 4 years. Internally we reference him as "same body, different head guy". I know you're not him as you sound reasonable . Artists are a strange bunch, they have processes and beliefs. I'm sure there is easier or faster methods. These typically come at a cost of quality, something SR7 firmly will not use. It's 4.5 years in we have explored every single idea regarding saving time.

As for the costumes, it was set as a precedent early on. You must remember this game was started in 2015, we have had to learn in front of the public eye. Not an easy task! There is many things currently in SU that we would overhaul, or outright never do in future projects. As for costumes, there is a real emphasis on workload multiplication when making the decision to add them.

As for SU continuing on forever. Our Patreon is Gunsmoke Games, it's to support whatever we do. We will not stop SU, cause if we did, someone else would continue it. We are not ready to pass the torch yet. SU will live on forever, either in our hands or someone else.
 
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It's not using the same asset at all! There has been a guy around for the last 4 years. Internally we reference him as "same body, different head guy". I know you're not him as you sound reasonable . Artists are a strange bunch, they have processes and beliefs. I'm sure there is easier or faster methods. These typically come at a cost of quality, something SR7 firmly will not use. It's 4.5 years in we have explored every single idea regarding saving time.

As for the costumes, it was set as a precedent early on. You must remember this game was started in 2015, we have had to learn in front of the public eye. Not an easy task! There is many things currently in SU that we would overhaul, or outright never do in future projects. As for costumes, there is a real emphasis on workload multiplication when making the decision to add them.

As for SU continuing on forever. Our Patreon is Gunsmoke Games, it's to support whatever we do. We will not stop SU, cause if we did, someone else would continue it. We are not ready to pass the torch yet. SU will live on forever, either in our hands or someone else.
So it's not the same asset, but using the same body type saves time? So he redraws generally the same body from scratch? Is this what you're saying?

And saying SU would continue forever means that you never want to finish it. I don't blame you because the patreon model supports longer development times, but most devs at least pretend that's not the case. It's weird to see someone admit it.
 

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So it's not the same asset, but using the same body type saves time? So he redraws generally the same body from scratch? Is this what you're saying?

And saying SU would continue forever means that you never want to finish it. I don't blame you because the patreon model supports longer development times, but most devs at least pretend that's not the case. It's weird to see someone admit it.
" saying SU would continue forever means that you never want to finish it. "Pffff dude get lost because most people will always want to see new content introduced into SU
 

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" saying SU would continue forever means that you never want to finish it. "Pffff dude get lost because most people will always want to see new content introduced into SU
I think most people would be happier with a proper release cycle that will eventually end with the game's completion rather than the game giving you crumbs until SR7 dies of old age.
 
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