Ren'Py Sorority Temptations [v0.2.0] [Blob Games]

[TonyMurray]

hopefully we get the option to cheat behind the bf back without him finding out till later in the story.

It sounds like that route is exactly what is being set up with the key choice at the end of 0.2.0 (well, no word on if/when he would find out, but the rest of it, certainly...).

 

[goldenboy812]

very good game!
too bad that lucy is sexy and good looking from the start of the game, she must be a "plain" girl and then change her appearance (hair, cosmetics and etc) with the help of sorority girls.

 

[StrawberryCheese83]

Choices dont seem to mean anything. No matter what I pick its the same.

At the mixer e.g. I didnt talked to that Jason guy, but she acts like she knows him. And thats with all choices - its really on rails

I m with you here. Thats a real pain in the a. Game lacks of real Choices. Her behavior is very odd...even if you don t want to do a task or if you are trying to avoid a Situation. The last Option is really messed up....if you choose to be honest with your BF, you will have a cuck, if you keep quiet about the Situation she will (probably) cheat on you (unless the Dev gives a Choice to opt out of this). Makes no sense at all. I d like to have real Choices between "good girl" or "bad girl"....i mean thats the Point of Story...isn t it?!?! I really hope that in the next Update the Dev will tone her a little bit down and every "spicy" Situation will be optional.

 

[TonyMurray]

I m with you here. Thats a real pain in the a. Game lacks of real Choices. Her behavior is very odd...even if you don t want to do a task or if you are trying to avoid a Situation. The last Option is really messed up....if you choose to be honest with your BF, you will have a cuck, if you keep quiet about the Situation she will (probably) cheat on you (unless the Dev gives a Choice to opt out of this). Makes no sense at all. I d like to have real Choices between "good girl" or "bad girl"....i mean thats the Point of Story...isn t it?!?! I really hope that in the next Update the Dev will tone her a little bit down and every "spicy" Situation will be optional.

The way I see it, it's a game about Lucy's temptations and her change from a "good girl" to a "less good girl" - it's just a case of how far down that path she'll go (and maybe which fork of that path she'll take). You know what you're letting yourself in for when you read the summary and start the game.

If there were always "good girl" choices, it would make for a bit of a boring game, and certainly not the game that the dev's intending. You often get "faithful/loyal" paths in these games, but most of the time, they're kind of pointless, since the game is about temptation and having a bit of fun as a "bad girl" (if you check the summary, it doesn't say anywhere that the point of the story is the choice between "good girl" and "bad girl").

 

[StrawberryCheese83]

The way I see it, it's a game about Lucy's temptations and her change from a "good girl" to a "less good girl" - it's just a case of how far down that path she'll go (and maybe which fork of that path she'll take). You know what you're letting yourself in for when you read the summary and start the game.

If there were always "good girl" choices, it would make for a bit of a boring game, and certainly not the game that the dev's intending. You often get "faithful/loyal" paths in these games, but most of the time, they're kind of pointless, since the game is about temptation and having a bit of fun as a "bad girl" (if you check the summary, it doesn't say anywhere that the point of the story is the choice between "good girl" and "bad girl").

I'm just saying that certain situations should always be optional, and the player should be the one to decide how far Lucy goes. In my opinion, meaningful choices are essential to a good game. It's totally fine if the FMC wants to be a bit 'bad,' but the player should have control over how far that actually goes. That's why it would be right to, for example, allow the player to refuse cheating. That has nothing to do with the 'bad girl' image. If the goal isn't to offer meaningful choices (for e.g. avoid a Situation or to avoid a possible LI/cheating Partner), then creating a comic instead would make more sense.

 

[TonyMurray]

I'm just saying that certain situations should always be optional, and the player should be the one to decide how far Lucy goes. In my opinion, meaningful choices are essential to a good game. It's totally fine if the FMC wants to be a bit 'bad,' but the player should have control over how far that actually goes. That's why it would be right to, for example, allow the player to refuse cheating. That has nothing to do with the 'bad girl' image. If the goal isn't to offer meaningful choices (for e.g. avoid a Situation or to avoid a possible LI/cheating Partner), then creating a comic instead would make more sense.

In a vanilla game, sure. But in this game, there's no path that is just loyal, loving girlfriend. It's a sharing or cheating game, so the options you get are centred around that, with the key option so far being whether you want to go down the sharing route, or the cheating route. So you can choose to avoid cheating - you pick the sharing option instead.

That doesn't stop the choices from being meaningful, it just means that it doesn't give you a strictly "good girl" route, but not every game needs one of those. We are still early in the game, so there may still be plenty of "do it" or "don't do it" choices anyway, and indeed we have already seen some of those.

I won't go into the "create a comic instead" bit, because contrary to your words, that suggestion makes no sense at all.

 

[B76820]

Needs more choice for sure, the appeal should be feeling in control of the path she takes...

 

[StrawberryCheese83]

In a vanilla game, sure. But in this game, there's no path that is just loyal, loving girlfriend. It's a sharing or cheating game, so the options you get are centred around that, with the key option so far being whether you want to go down the sharing route, or the cheating route. So you can choose to avoid cheating - you pick the sharing option instead.

That doesn't stop the choices from being meaningful, it just means that it doesn't give you a strictly "good girl" route, but not every game needs one of those. We are still early in the game, so there may still be plenty of "do it" or "don't do it" choices anyway, and indeed we have already seen some of those.

I won't go into the "create a comic instead" bit, because contrary to your words, that suggestion makes no sense at all.

Let me put this in very simple terms, because I don’t want to argue with you. At important points in the game, the player should ALWAYS have the option to say “NO” and to reject LIs or “spicy” situations...no matter what. At the very least, they should be skippable — no matter whether you're on the "good" or "bad" path. It should be the Players decision. Who told you that the game doesn’t have a vanilla route??? There’s nothing about that in the description. If it’s ONLY about cheating or sharing, then so be it. In that case, the developer should clearly confirm it, and some of us will just move on. I don’t want a choice between “bad” and “worse.” There should always be an option to skip content — that’s the foundation of a visual novel (unless it is kinetic)! I’m not asking for a possible “cheating” or “sharing” path to be removed… I just want it to be logically skippable — nothing more. I don’t think that’s too much to ask.

 

[TonyMurray]

Let me put this in very simple terms, because I don’t want to argue with you. At important points in the game, the player should ALWAYS have the option to say “NO” and to reject LIs or “spicy” situations...no matter what. At the very least, they should be skippable — no matter whether you're on the "good" or "bad" path. It should be the Players decision. Who told you that the game doesn’t have a vanilla route??? There’s nothing about that in the description. If it’s ONLY about cheating or sharing, then so be it. In that case, the developer should clearly confirm it, and some of us will just move on. I don’t want a choice between “bad” and “worse.” There should always be an option to skip content — that’s the foundation of a visual novel (unless it is kinetic)! I’m not asking for a possible “cheating” or “sharing” path to be removed… I just want it to be logically skippable — nothing more. I don’t think that’s too much to ask.

We're not arguing, we're just having a discussion where we have some different opinions. So far in the game, there have been options to avoid situations (do you kiss the guy at the party or not, etc.), maybe not many, but the game hasn't really got going yet, so there haven't been too many opportunities. And it's not a rule that games have to have the option to say "no" anyway, that's just your preference (and I agree with it in general, with the caveat of what I've said in my previous couple of posts, and what I'll say again below).

No one has told me there's no vanilla route, true. I'm just going with what I take from the game's summary ("the growing realization that being a good girl isn't nearly as fun as being a little bad" and "How far will she go to fit in?"), but mostly the choice at the end of the current update, where you can essentially choose "sharing" or "cheating". There isn't a third choice of "neither/vanilla" there.

Again, I just think that some games don't need to have a vanilla path. If this game gives you a choice of sharing or cheating as a major option, and no "vanilla" third option, then I would take it to be one of those games where a vanilla path isn't needed. If cheating/sharing are the major parts of the game, then there's no requirement to also have a vanilla route that would mean the dev has to create additional story and renders because it doesn't fit the main parts of the story he's actually telling. Plenty of games have that additional vanilla route, despite openly advertising themselves as NTR/NTS games, but there's no requirement for them to have it.

As far as that last point goes, this game currently lists in its genre/future tags within the OP: cheating, corruption, group sex, multiple penetration, and swinging. Although those are not all specifically linked to either sharing or cheating, I would suggest it's hard to have group sex or multiple penetration, for instance, without going into that territory. With cheating and swinging in there as well (no NTR tag, but the MC is the one who would be doing it, hence cheating and not NTR, from her perspective), I would say it's clear what overall genre this game fits in to, whether it's the only option or not, so people who don't want that can easily enough avoid it. It does mean, IMO, that that stuff probably isn't "logically skippable" here.

 

[StrawberryCheese83]

We're not arguing, we're just having a discussion where we have some different opinions. So far in the game, there have been options to avoid situations (do you kiss the guy at the party or not, etc.), maybe not many, but the game hasn't really got going yet, so there haven't been too many opportunities. And it's not a rule that games have to have the option to say "no" anyway, that's just your preference (and I agree with it in general, with the caveat of what I've said in my previous couple of posts, and what I'll say again below).

No one has told me there's no vanilla route, true. I'm just going with what I take from the game's summary ("the growing realization that being a good girl isn't nearly as fun as being a little bad" and "How far will she go to fit in?"), but mostly the choice at the end of the current update, where you can essentially choose "sharing" or "cheating". There isn't a third choice of "neither/vanilla" there.

Again, I just think that some games don't need to have a vanilla path. If this game gives you a choice of sharing or cheating as a major option, and no "vanilla" third option, then I would take it to be one of those games where a vanilla path isn't needed. If cheating/sharing are the major parts of the game, then there's no requirement to also have a vanilla route that would mean the dev has to create additional story and renders because it doesn't fit the main parts of the story he's actually telling. Plenty of games have that additional vanilla route, despite openly advertising themselves as NTR/NTS games, but there's no requirement for them to have it.

As far as that last point goes, this game currently lists in its genre/future tags within the OP: cheating, corruption, group sex, multiple penetration, and swinging. Although those are not all specifically linked to either sharing or cheating, I would suggest it's hard to have group sex or multiple penetration, for instance, without going into that territory. With cheating and swinging in there as well (no NTR tag, but the MC is the one who would be doing it, hence cheating and not NTR, from her perspective), I would say it's clear what overall genre this game fits in to, whether it's the only option or not, so people who don't want that can easily enough avoid it. It does mean, IMO, that that stuff probably isn't "logically skippable" here.

I understand your points and, for the most part, I can accept them... even if I can't fully agree with the way the game might be designed. I believe we both share a similar taste in games (the ones in your signature are truly outstanding), and we likely enjoy — or dislike — the same kinds of things. Personally, I absolutely hate being forced to choose between “bad” and “worse.” Let me be perfectly clear: I don’t believe in pushing a player down a fixed path with no real choices. If the developer feels strongly about cutting out a “vanilla” route, that’s entirely up to him. If that means Lucy’s journey can only end in tragedy, then so be it.
I’m someone who values having options — meaningful ones. And if this game ends up offering only restricted choices, or none at all… then that’s just how it is. It would honestly be a real shame. But in the end, there’s nothing I can do but accept it. I’ll step back and watch where the developer decides to take things from here. Peace

 

[Geigi]

I understand your points and, for the most part, I can accept them... even if I can't fully agree with the way the game might be designed. I believe we both share a similar taste in games (the ones in your signature are truly outstanding), and we likely enjoy — or dislike — the same kinds of things. Personally, I absolutely hate being forced to choose between “bad” and “worse.” Let me be perfectly clear: I don’t believe in pushing a player down a fixed path with no real choices. If the developer feels strongly about cutting out a “vanilla” route, that’s entirely up to him. If that means Lucy’s journey can only end in tragedy, then so be it.
I’m someone who values having options — meaningful ones. And if this game ends up offering only restricted choices, or none at all… then that’s just how it is. It would honestly be a real shame. But in the end, there’s nothing I can do but accept it. I’ll step back and watch where the developer decides to take things from here. Peace

The only option that the game offer is to turn a FMC into a slut and choices are a slow or fast burn "corruption" just like VST.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Shrug, I didnt have a problem with it, unlike many femprotag games where the bf/husband is little more than a relationship prop, he's more involved here and (if one chooses that route) shes pretty good at keeping him in the loop unlike the usual "oops i fucked the football team, i couldnt possibly tell him that!"

I do wish there was a little more variety in the responses - i can see it both ways; choices are good, at the same time people are here to see sex and that can just slow things down. Though if it continues as it has, it bodes well there's an abundance of choices for individual pairings, it didnt feel like any of the guys she meets were pushed on her - so while the player may not be able to play her as a convent sister, hopefully they'll be able to direct which and how liasons occur.

As for the guy who said the Jason dialogue was bugged, i dunno, this seems ambiguous enough it can be used for both paths....yeah it's a little coquettish but hardly the worst for an avn..

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[Joyce HardingWetPanties]

Thanks to the dev for doing a story where the hot girlfriend is both up for fun and teasing her boyfriend.
I hope Lucy stays true to her guy, but I can't promise to help her with that!