Ren'Py Completed Space Journey X [v2.20_022] [y.v.]

[Evangelion-01]

My main idea is that the heroines themselves sometimes take the initiative. Because now no matter what level of Appreciation/Exhibitionism(?)/Mood/Sluttiness/Submission the heroine has, if she is not touched, she will never turn to the hero. We do change their character and gradually they do things they didn't want to do before (or hid that they wanted). But the feeling is always that if we do not approach them, they do not care about the hero, no matter how we affected them.

My main point is that you are wrong about fundamentals by my perspective.
We don't change their character... we twist it to make them more agreeing (lowering their inhibition and becomeing closer so they'd want to experiment), they won't start to like something they always hated... at best they'll become curious and allow MC to indulge them and himself... and yeah T'Ris is the most hardcore in that regard.

T'Ris' problem can be looked at from another angle: she was frigid and for her the process of satisfying the captain was purely mechanical. But after she was cured of her frigidity she began to enjoy the process and was stressed because of it. I don't remember exactly, but to cope with the stress she was told that she was doing it for the team + a calming anal plug. I don't think her storyline is complete. But the point is that I absolutely do not see the contradiction in the fact that she will “calm down” the negligent captain who squanders the funds and she will do it not for herself but for the team (as she will convince herself).

But was she?
She only allowed foreplay where MC got pleasure... until she experimented with the Autotrainer to learn about pleasure for the first time... her upbringing taught her that sex is not pleasureable... she never actually tried it as far as we know.
She would never accept herself to believe she actually craves pleasure, the whole setup for MC askeing her to help him help her is to give her a convinient excuse to indulge herself, since otherwise her mind could take sever damage (I think Y.V. took inspiration from ST Enterprise when the first mate encountered a Volkan ship in an anomaly where her people turned ferral).

When I said initiative on the heroine's part I didn't mean that the hero wakes up chained to the bed and the heroine rides him. As far as Dom/Sub is concerned, someone who is a Sub can be very even demanding and can quite easily control the actions of the Dom. The easiest example is after training to serve the master: she will bring coffee in the morning, but will only be wearing an apron on her naked body (of course it doesn't make much sense since they all go naked at the end, but you get the point) and the hero will jump on her.

Well I get your idea but Nhime is sassy and rebellious all the time, so this doesn't fit her character either... if anything she might break the rules more often to get hands on punishment by the captain at morning.

I see Khelara as a woman with a strong character. Initially she didn't want to wear the uniform even though we captain and pay her. She just gave in and changed under the pressure of the whole team. She is quite open sexually, but at any advancement in sex with her we manage to achieve at the very end, which also speaks for her principles. Yes, they have a relationship of boss and subordinate who is paid, but this relationship can develop (that's the whole point of relationship progression in games, right?). After we starts having sex with her, she may like it and if we ignore her later (since she and the hero are in an open sexual relationship) she may choose to use the hero instead of the dildo in the shower.
Am I misreading Khelara's character?

By my opinion? Yes, but y.v. would have to confirm or deny this.
If you give stuff away for free they loose all value, for Khelara everything is a transaction of values so the only Option I see here is that she makes MC an offer for favor points to indulge herself while keeping her principles (classical example would be a wakeup service).

Despite being lazy she has quite a few stories of how she flirted with other people (who were then disintegrated by her father). She's very bored on the ship and given that she's always been forbidden anything to do with sex, now (if we give her the drone disabling device) she may well start doing things she tried to do under her father but failed (due to disintegration). I wouldn't say she's a masochist but rather very curious and naive (dumb). And being free she may herself approach the hero (especially if we encourage her/deceive her) for sex. Sex can also be anal, I don't see a problem with that.

All her interactions with Vee make her out as a sub by the booklet maybe not as much of a masochist, but that part kinda comes through while she gets to Pony raceing.
Also she never developes this much or a rivaly with Khelara or T'Ris, just her similarity with Nhime seems to trigger both to compete with each other in everrything they do... heck MC even taunts Seraphina repeatedly with "Nhime would do it better anyway".
So yeah maybe a bit of a stretch, but that's how she always felt to me.

Dr. Moira resisting Krell's imposed collar law as best she can. I wouldn't say she's a clean-cut damsel in distress. It's quite possible that she'll like it if we cast the heroine as the lead who pursues the hero in a trashy romance. And she might want to recreate that.

Like I said all of this is only when Appreciation/Exhibitionism(?)/Mood/Sluttiness/Submission is high. I just like the setting where after some stage the heroines show interest in the hero. I just want to show that it is quite possible, but in the end it is up to the author to decide whether he wants to add this to the game or not.

Dunno, still doesn't feel in character but than again that might just be me.

The characters maintaining their star trek themed personalities in the middle of all this perversion is kind of a nice change from other games that have training or corruption themes.

And since petplay is found both in the krell zone and the pony racing subplots, I'd prefer to have more of that kind of thing.

Than you'll be glad to hear that enabling this for Khelara and T'Ris is on the timeline

 

[Qatalitoniss]

Evangelion-01, Well, everyone has different tastes and perspectives. We all see characters differently. There's no point in arguing — most of the time, everyone will just stick to their own opinion in the end.
I would just like to see the heroines take initiative even without the hero's command, rather than staying in the background until he approaches them.
I understand that my views might not align with others, and ultimately it's up to the author to decide whether or not to include what I suggested in any form.
I'm sure there are individuals spamming the author to add Krell NTR training for all heroines as it fits the theme of training =)

 

[Evangelion-01]

@Evangelion-01, Well, everyone has different tastes and perspectives. We all see characters differently. There's no point in arguing — most of the time, everyone will just stick to their own opinion in the end.
I would just like to see the heroines take initiative even without the hero's command, rather than staying in the background until he approaches them.
I understand that my views might not align with others, and ultimately it's up to the author to decide whether or not to include what I suggested in any form.

I gues we can agree on this.
Personally I do like heroines takeing the initiative myself as it kinds gives them both some Character and doesn't make the MC look like a perpetual horny douchebag... just that the way Y.V. did setup these Characters doesn't make this fit the bill like this... atleast not without some mayor story Update makeing the girls actually lovey dovey with the MC rather than horny accepting.

I'm sure there are individuals spamming the author to add Krell NTR training for all heroines as it fits the theme of training =)

OH GOD NO!!! Don't give them ideas

 

[slowparson]

I'm sure there are individuals spamming the author to add Krell NTR training for all heroines as it fits the theme of training =)

OH GOD NO!!! Don't give them ideas

From what I understand, the dev has already commented on this subject and basically said something like "Not adding NTR, don't wanna deal with the ensuing drama. One can always make their own game."

 

[sweetit]

From what I understand, the dev has already commented on this subject and basically said something like "Not adding NTR, don't wanna deal with the ensuing drama. One can always make their own game."

Thats what the bots are for, run that brothel

 

[yv0751]

Space Journey X - V2.20 Feature Complete

Hi,

today I wrote the last lines of Code (Trixie related...) and can announce that V2.20 is now Feature Complete!

The RPG Module (1st iteration), which will pave the way for future away missions on planets, was more effort than expected but I hope you like it. Let me know what improvements might be introduced there to make it as good as possible.
Of course the new release also has all the kinds of contents you would expect. Including full interactive shaving options for Khelara which will affect all her scenes and sprites.


Main Features

• Quest: Shadows Of the Underverse
• Quest: Moira's Milking Project
• Quest: The Armoury
• New Subunit Tiers (Elite, Underverse)
• RPG Module for Ground Combat (First Iteration)
• Armoury and Ship Defense
• Khelara immersive Shaving
• T'Ris Milking & Leaderboard
• G-Type Personal Bot Variation
• Pathfinding for in-Ship navigation
• Animated Turbolift with encounters
• Trixie & Seraphine Content
• Galaxina Episode
• Loads of GUI improvements
• Refactored Subsystems, Dialogue Code, ...
• 100+ Bugfixes

I have a handful of anims and two scenes to render out hires stiill, but I will do that during the integration testing.

• BETA best case 10th, latest 15th!
• VIP Official Release one week after that!
• Upper Tier one week after that and
• Beginning of August Official Patreon and Substar Release
• Public Release End of August

Thanks for your Patience and Support!

y.v.

 

[yv0751]

Here's how I would add/change a subSys (even though I would probably just cheat in the item and install them myself... ^^):

GAME.ship.subSys["engines"] = ["ITMEngineMkII", [1,1,1,1],[9,9,9,9], [0,0,0,0], [GAME.items["ITMAddOnEngine"],GAME.items["ITMAddOnEngine"],0,0,0,0]]

"engines" is the system type
"ITMEngineMkII" is the item id (in this case it would install a pulse engine mkII)
[1,1,1,1],[9,9,9,9], [0,0,0,0] are the three rows of submodules (this would put an ai core, a positron stabilizer, a flux modulator and an output controller in row 1, 4 tunneling modules in row 2 and nothing in row 3)
[GAME.items["ITMAddOnEngine"],GAME.items["ITMAddOnEngine"],0,0,0,0] are the addon modules (this would put two engine dynamics modules in the first two slots and nothing in the others)

You can of course use something like GAME.ship.equipAddOn("engines", "ITMAddOnEngine", 1) to equip addon modules instead (the last number is the slotid, starting at 0)

A word of caution:
In V2.20 I completely refactored all the Subsystems and related data structures (to allow for elite tier and underverse subunits...). So do not try with v2.20

 

[yv0751]

Well you can encourage them to be initiators.
T'Ris as in the moment with the blowjob where we poured money on the dancer, you can also at maximum corruption to do “some kind of stuff” so that T'Ris herself took matters into “her own hands”. For example, you can again spend a huge amount of money on prostitutes and her ego will play against her "as he went to prostitutes instead of coming to me - I need to calm him down myself".
In Nhime's case, since she's a masochist you can just train her to please her master herself. You can do it yourself or with the help of BB-2 or Infiltrator.
With Khelara, it should be easy for her to take the initiative with high corruption. When sex with her will be added (very much looking for that) you can raise her corruption high and then ignore her for a few days. With her personality, she can take what she wants for herself.
And with Seraphina just add a moment where she gets the drone disabling device. Since she herself is interested in sex and the only thing that stopped her was the drones, now she can get into bed with the hero herself.
As for Dr. Moira, you can give her a novel where the heroine herself pursues a partner.
In Vee's case, we can bluntly ask how you snuck into my bed while being in a sarcophagus and why don't you do that anymore? =)
I don't think it's that hard to make heroines initiate sex.

I assume that everyone sees their characters a bit differently but that is what I thought when writing the story:

• T'Ris is convinced of her Valkoran superiority so she can only engage in sexual behaviour if she finds an excuse for herself (for the mission, for research, ...). A bit of a mixture like 7 of 9 and T'Pol
• Nimhe is kind of amoral and not human either so her motives are unclear... just a stint in this physical shape for a while 'playing the role' she chose or more?
• Khelara is pragmatic as an engineer and therefore necessarily transactional. She might become infatuated with a mega-chad (which the MC isn't exactly..., he's more the Guybrush Threepwood character...)
• Moira is written as a rational Milf indulging in some sexual fantasies (her trashy novels, her Krell research, ...)
• Seraphine is a mixture of arrogant and submissive at the same time (a bit like Felice in the Julian May Sci Fi Novel Series without the unhinged bit and unlimited powers...)
• Vee was originally designed as a villain (hiding cloaked in the depths of the ship like the borg queen) but I moved her towards fairy godmother (with ulterior motives...) territory. A bit of 7 of 9 ish behaviour too. The Dom role comes with that . If think of Polgara the Sorceress when seeing her (but less goody two shoes, more scheming...)...

Thats my thought of the characters. Forgot BB-2, who is the trickster archetype and a plot device to explain stuff / sidekick too.
There is no super villain (because I hate an episode overarching story arc like the plague) . If anything its maybe the Nexus, Assembler or Underverse entities....
Replacing that are some kind of episode wise villains.

That all being said, with the new pathfinding transitions on the ship and the turbolift encounters some paths for initiated sexual activities might open up too.

 

[gnadudu]

A word of caution:
In V2.20 I completely refactored all the Subsystems and related data structures (to allow for elite tier and underverse subunits...). So do not try with v2.20

Added a warning, just in case...

 

[vodka66]

anyone managed to get seraphine sub to 4?

 

[MTGplayer]

How does one get Nihme's submission above 8

 

[initiated]

ALl that sounds great, and im eager for the public release of V2.20!

And what is Nimhe? what is the nature of her race?

 

[Evangelion-01]

ALl that sounds great, and im eager for the public release of V2.20!

And what is Nimhe? what is the nature of her race?

I'd take a gues and say Odo from DS 9

 

[yv0751]

I'd take a gues and say Odo from DS 9

She's a Syrax. Wonder who ever read the novel this race featured first

 

[yv0751]

anyone managed to get seraphine sub to 4?

I think I described that in the walk-through document. It was repeating her sex scene with the alternate camera angle.

 

[yv0751]

How does one get Nihme's submission above 8

milk pet 9, infil toy 10, 11

 

[Evangelion-01]

She's a Syrax. Wonder who ever read the novel this race featured first

Well the changelings from the DS9 story fit her aswell and Odo's special circumstances kinda reflect her own changeing behaviour... also in later Seasons there was a changeling war arc where this race and Odo as a character received more focus and explanation... which fits Nhime even more.
Gotta admit I don't recall a special race called "Syrax" and I did read as much Sci-Fi while younger as I could get (maybe to much that I don't recall them as they were not part of the main cast?).

 

[yv0751]

Well the changelings from the DS9 story fit her aswell and Odo's special circumstances kinda reflect her own changeing behaviour... also in later Seasons there was a changeling war arc where this race and Odo as a character received more focus and explanation... which fits Nhime even more.
Gotta admit I don't recall a special race called "Syrax" and I did read as much Sci-Fi while younger as I could get (maybe to much that I don't recall them as they were not part of the main cast?).

It was a novel of an alien shape shifter race that clandestinely took over a portal facility in the Alps Mountains & Earth Orbit which they didn't want humans to have access to. Authors initials are ADF, a very well known SciFi Author. Though no hard ScifI, more campy...

And while we're at it: Personality of Seraphine/Irith is "Irith The Flyer", from a Fantasy Novel of A.S.deCamp

I probably read too much as a kid. No mobiles then and no internet either...

 

[Sallly]

I can't get Dr Moira past slut level 2 , I've tried the drengarian liquor / Therapy now about 8 times with no advance , please what am I missing ?

 

[initiated]

It was a novel of an alien shape shifter race that clandestinely took over a portal facility in the Alps Mountains & Earth Orbit which they didn't want humans to have access to. Authors initials are ADF, a very well known SciFi Author. Though no hard ScifI, more campy...

Doesnt sound familiar at all. also my google fu is not strong enough to find it.
can you give a brief description of them in that novel?
Also some more flavor info about her in the game will be welcome.