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I don't know if Ranli's said more about this somewhere else, but judging purely from their comments
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bi MC's being funnelled to the MAX scene with no choice seems to have been deliberate and not an oversight.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content.
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It's still odd that the MC speaks as if he's encountered MAX before when he certainly hadn't on my playthrough, but maybe something's been changed in the opening of the game since I played through that.
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Oh, that's interesting. I didn't see that comment about how Aurora will appear in the 2nd part of the Dan mission. Now I am wondering how that will work, though. Will the 2nd part for Bi players contain the Aurora scene from the 1st part or will it be a new one?
Edit: Now that I'm re-reading it, it does look like it will be the scene from Part 1. Well, I'm happy now, lol. For a moment there, I thought the game was taking control away from the Bi players, but, in actuality, Ranli was just going to give them a chance to see both scenes!
Nope, it's still optional to meet MAX in Part 1. I'm just going to assume that, for those who hadn't met MAX, it's supposed to be interpreted that the MC met him at some point off-screen. MAX also appears in some of the game over screens, but those are supposed to non-canon, lol.
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That's unfortunate. Really disappointing, it's not reasonable to expect a Dev to predict every possible permutation, but when a suitable alternative is already there...
I don't consider myself Bi, I see myself as straight with flexible definitions (AKA I'm fine if they are predominantly feminine, such as Traps/Trans/Sissy), I've got zero interest in characters that are masculine...
I'm actually feeling pretty pissed that we are forced down this route when there are more suitable options !
I don't suppose you've seen Rani's response to that view point? (surely it's come up)
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As I said they may have gone into it more elsewhere (Discord, e.g.), but not that I've seen.
Edit: Actually, check that. They've responded to a comment about it over on
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and it seems there's been enough feedback to make Ranli change their mind (as well as fix the mention of having met MAX before):You don't have permission to view the spoiler content.
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Rejoice!
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Honestly great to see how Ranli responded to this. I can see what the original plan was, but it threw me off that there is a default pick for part 1/3 for Bi players (some may prefer the M/F content more/may not be interested in MAX). I think if parts 1/3 and 2/3 were also released at the same time, it would not have been as jarring. Also happy to hear that the met/mot met issue will be fixed!
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Yeah, back when they still hung around here, my impression was that Ranli was usually willing to listen to and consider feedback, no matter if they agreed with it or not. Glad to see that that's still the case.
I'm greedy. I wish I could pick Cis, Anna, and Fatima all as primary love interests. In the harem that I'm building, there will be no favorites. All will be equally loved.
So, what's the point of being able to have a choice for something as simple as "does Anna get touched in the shower or not", but not "does Ci-Ci literally fuck Cousin Felix and the entire crew"??? I mean I like Ci-Ci's character before that and the fact most other choices were a choice of *action* and not *viewing* , but with Ci-Ci she's just the hole of everyone else and there's nothing you can do about it. What's the point of giving the choices for everyone else, but NOT one of the PRIMARY LOVE INTERESTS??Fortunately - if you play it right - Ci-Ci's jealousy will dissipate. She's more upset about the lack of attention you've paid her than any real possessiveness... a bit of TLC and her natural instinct to share with friends should emerge
Course... she'll still give you a right bollocking every time she finds out about a new sprog
Couldn't the dev just have decided that if the player chose, they never actually got physical, but just exchanged photos? That they exchanged them just before she got shipped out? Or that she managed to convince the people around her by doing literally anything other than sex? I mean you show it for Dave, so clearly it was a possibility that could've been implemented. The initial writing just had me thinking that Ci-Ci was just more open than her brother, not that she was just the town-bicycle.
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I mean, in the first instance the choice exists because some players might be uncomfortable with seeing or having a character be sexually assaulted as part of the story. In the second instance, it's literally just a character having had consensual sexual relations as part of their backstory. Even then the game only shows Ci-Ci having sex in fantasy/memory scenes and only when prompted, so you can just not engage with those scenes if they cause you significant distress.
Otherwise, the expectation that all potential love interests be virginal and chaste before meeting the MC is kind of unreasonable, imo, when this is a raunchy porn game, and one that has never advertised deflowering young women as one of its selling points.
I used Anna specifically because she's a love interest. I could pull up the vast majority of other sexual interactions in the first episode, Anna's was just the most relevant. My argument is if the entire game is about being able to choose, and you are able to choose a LOT in the game, then why is this something that you just have to accept?
The idea that in your mind, you genuinely believed the point of my comment was that every character should be a virgin, despite the fact I literally made no comment about the dozen other characters, is genuinely deranged. What an utterly moronic strawman to make. Gross.
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I can't recall a single instance in this game where you can choose or change a character's backstory, and it's just set in stone that Ci-Ci had dated Felix and has always been sexually active. And the latter is also true for 99% of characters in the game, except Sam and Anna. As I said, if it really causes you distress or discomfort, the game gives you the options to ignore and not look at scenes that show her having sex.
I was being a bit hyperbolic, but I specifically mentioned only the love interests, not all of the characters in the game. And it's not really a wild conclusion to reach that, since you seem to be really uncomfortable with/dislike the fact that Ci-Ci is established to be sexually active and not a virgin, you might also dislike other characters like Fatima not being virgins.
If your issue is really just that Ci-Ci in particular is sexually active, then, I'm sorry to say, the only solution is to just ignore that part of her character.
Hello.
You have no control over what you are spying in their mind but you have it over what you want to see and what you would have wanted to happen.
Also, your first example is wrong : you can choose to watch it or not but whatever happens in the shower between Anna and Sarge still happens.
I don't understand your parallel with Dave either : you're expecting 2 people with different personalities to react the same way?
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What are you talking about anyway? You want to have the possibility to change the past?
You have no control over what you are spying in their mind but you have it over what you want to see and what you would have wanted to happen.
Also, your first example is wrong : you can choose to watch it or not but whatever happens in the shower between Anna and Sarge still happens.
I don't understand your parallel with Dave either : you're expecting 2 people with different personalities to react the same way?
Good continuation.
Again, stop making strawmen. Once again, if you bothered to just pay a modicum of attention to the actual content of my comments, I got no issues with any other character, so why do you believe her being sexually active would be the issue? My point was that, from a game that has SO MUCH choice in the content, you can't decide whether she actually slept with Felix or literally the whole crew or not? You can choose fucking cock and ball torture, but for the love interests we can't?
Also, I can even go back to your point about the choice for Anna supposedly being cause of assault: has the main character not been assaulted MULTIPLE times? 80% of them have no warning, but suddenly with Anna it's so obvious for you.
Look, I can literally just use the exact same format for Ci-Ci that they used for Anna, and it has ZERO negatives to the game. When you see the poster of Felix, before he makes a judgement on her, the MC has a chance to ask how far they got. Using the EXACT SAME format that was used for Anna, you can say:
ignorant choice - (I don't want to know)
nudes only choice - (Please don't say you had sex with him)
sex choice - (I don't know why, but I hope they actually had sex)
Seriously, what are you mad about my comment exactly? Mad that I'm saying a simple change to allow the player to have more choice is bad? Extending the same idea to Ci-Ci quite literally has NO negatives. NONE. If the game is going to focus so heavily on choice, there is nothing bad about this! Why are you arguing??
Did you even play the fucking game? You literally get a choice with Anna about whether she gets molested by Sarge or not. It's in the game. She literally describes her as maternal if you say that you hope she didn't. It's changing the past, that's why you don't see the actual scene beforehand. How is it that you people manage to get pissy about my comment that's TOTALLY reasonable if
1) the focus of the game is on choice
2) the dev actually wants us to have real LIs
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so all kinks are a matter of choice but do choices tell you where they will lead you? do the gangbang kink lead to sharing? Im not a big fan of that, edit looks like even if you say no to something it doesnt totally blocks it so you have more choices it nice
might be a bug? also how do ethics actually work? and how long does it take for the MC to stop being so dumb?
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