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[WazawaiDa]

I used Anna specifically because she's a love interest. I could pull up the vast majority of other sexual interactions in the first episode, Anna's was just the most relevant. My argument is if the entire game is about being able to choose, and you are able to choose a LOT in the game, then why is this something that you just have to accept?

I can't recall a single instance in this game where you can choose or change a character's backstory, and it's just set in stone that Ci-Ci had dated Felix and has always been sexually active. And the latter is also true for 99% of characters in the game, except Sam and Anna. As I said, if it really causes you distress or discomfort, the game gives you the options to ignore and not look at scenes that show her having sex.

The idea that in your mind, you genuinely believed the point of my comment was that every character should be a virgin, despite the fact I literally made no comment about the dozen other characters, is genuinely deranged. What an utterly moronic strawman to make. Gross.

I was being a bit hyperbolic, but I specifically mentioned only the love interests, not all of the characters in the game. And it's not really a wild conclusion to reach that, since you seem to be really uncomfortable with/dislike the fact that Ci-Ci is established to be sexually active and not a virgin, you might also dislike other characters like Fatima not being virgins.

If your issue is really just that Ci-Ci in particular is sexually active, then, I'm sorry to say, the only solution is to just ignore that part of her character.

 

[Oliz82]

Hello.

So, what's the point of being able to have a choice for something as simple as "does Anna get touched in the shower or not", but not "does Ci-Ci literally fuck Cousin Felix and the entire crew"??? I mean I like Ci-Ci's character before that and the fact most other choices were a choice of *action* and not *viewing* , but with Ci-Ci she's just the hole of everyone else and there's nothing you can do about it. What's the point of giving the choices for everyone else, but NOT one of the PRIMARY LOVE INTERESTS??

Couldn't the dev just have decided that if the player chose, they never actually got physical, but just exchanged photos? That they exchanged them just before she got shipped out? Or that she managed to convince the people around her by doing literally anything other than sex? I mean you show it for Dave, so clearly it was a possibility that could've been implemented. The initial writing just had me thinking that Ci-Ci was just more open than her brother, not that she was just the town-bicycle.

I used Anna specifically because she's a love interest. I could pull up the vast majority of other sexual interactions in the first episode, Anna's was just the most relevant. My argument is if the entire game is about being able to choose, and you are able to choose a LOT in the game, then why is this something that you just have to accept?

The idea that in your mind, you genuinely believed the point of my comment was that every character should be a virgin, despite the fact I literally made no comment about the dozen other characters, is genuinely deranged. What an utterly moronic strawman to make. Gross.

What are you talking about anyway? You want to have the possibility to change the past?
You have no control over what you are spying in their mind but you have it over what you want to see and what you would have wanted to happen.
Also, your first example is wrong : you can choose to watch it or not but whatever happens in the shower between Anna and Sarge still happens.
I don't understand your parallel with Dave either : you're expecting 2 people with different personalities to react the same way?

Good continuation.

 

[DirectXD1943]

If your issue is really just that Ci-Ci in particular is sexually active, then, I'm sorry to say, the only solution is to just ignore that part of her character.

Again, stop making strawmen. Once again, if you bothered to just pay a modicum of attention to the actual content of my comments, I got no issues with any other character, so why do you believe her being sexually active would be the issue? My point was that, from a game that has SO MUCH choice in the content, you can't decide whether she actually slept with Felix or literally the whole crew or not? You can choose fucking cock and ball torture, but for the love interests we can't?

Also, I can even go back to your point about the choice for Anna supposedly being cause of assault: has the main character not been assaulted MULTIPLE times? 80% of them have no warning, but suddenly with Anna it's so obvious for you.

Look, I can literally just use the exact same format for Ci-Ci that they used for Anna, and it has ZERO negatives to the game. When you see the poster of Felix, before he makes a judgement on her, the MC has a chance to ask how far they got. Using the EXACT SAME format that was used for Anna, you can say:

ignorant choice - (I don't want to know)
nudes only choice - (Please don't say you had sex with him)
sex choice - (I don't know why, but I hope they actually had sex)

Seriously, what are you mad about my comment exactly? Mad that I'm saying a simple change to allow the player to have more choice is bad? Extending the same idea to Ci-Ci quite literally has NO negatives. NONE. If the game is going to focus so heavily on choice, there is nothing bad about this! Why are you arguing??

 

[DirectXD1943]

What are you talking about anyway? You want to have the possibility to change the past?
You have no control over what you are spying in their mind but you have it over what you want to see and what you would have wanted to happen.
Also, your first example is wrong : you can choose to watch it or not but whatever happens in the shower between Anna and Sarge still happens

Did you even play the fucking game? You literally get a choice with Anna about whether she gets molested by Sarge or not. It's in the game. She literally describes her as maternal if you say that you hope she didn't. It's changing the past, that's why you don't see the actual scene beforehand. How is it that you people manage to get pissy about my comment that's TOTALLY reasonable if
1) the focus of the game is on choice
2) the dev actually wants us to have real LIs

 

[randomguy6516265165]

so all kinks are a matter of choice but do choices tell you where they will lead you? do the gangbang kink lead to sharing? Im not a big fan of that, edit looks like even if you say no to something it doesnt totally blocks it so you have more choices it nice

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might be a bug? also how do ethics actually work? and how long does it take for the MC to stop being so dumb?

 

[WarriorSteel]

so all kinks are a matter of choice but do choices tell you where they will lead you? do the gangbang kink lead to sharing? Im not a big fan of that, edit looks like even if you say no to something it doesnt totally blocks it so you have more choices it nice

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might be a bug? also how do ethics actually work? and how long does it take for the MC to stop being so dumb?

Silverback means that you will not share the LI, not that the LI hasn't had a past sexual life.

 

[WazawaiDa]

why do you believe her being sexually active would be the issue?

you can't decide whether she actually slept with Felix or literally the whole crew or not?

It is confusing when you say that you don't have an issue with her being sexually active, but then complain that she's the "town bike" or whatever. If her not being a virgin is not the issue, then why is just a mention of her having past relationships such a big deal?

Also, I can even go back to your point about the choice for Anna supposedly being cause of assault: has the main character not been assaulted MULTIPLE times? 80% of them have no warning, but suddenly with Anna it's so obvious for you.

He can be assaulted depending on the choices you make, but the player can run away from those encounters if they are uncomfortable with the idea and don't want to see it.

Also, it is pretty blatant that Anna gets assaulted by Sarge regardless of the player's choices, the player just gets to decide if they want to see the explicit details or not (one of the choices is literally "I don't want to hear about how she was molested by Sarge!" or whatever). Even when you pick "I want to see what Sarge did to Anna", Anna will still continue to deny that anything happened, but the MC will see the actual events with his mind-reading powers.

Seriously, what are you mad about my comment exactly? Mad that I'm saying a simple change to allow the player to have more choice is bad? Extending the same idea to Ci-Ci quite literally has NO negatives. NONE. If the game is going to focus so heavily on choice, there is nothing bad about this! Why are you arguing??

I was not "mad" about your comment, I just found it really strange to quote a comment by the dev from years ago to complain about a porn game character having had sex and a relationship as part of their stated backstory.

Ci-Ci dating Felix is something that has been established as early as her introduction and will most likely continue to be a part of her and Felix's story when he will be introduced into the main plot. The player gets to choose how much of it they want to see, and how the MC's current relationship with them will change (cause I'm pretty sure Felix will also be a PLI).

Letting the player modify a pretty significant part of their backstory will actually be a pretty big change and way too much work at this point for, frankly, very little payoff, and it will set a pretty big precedent when it comes to modifying other character's backstory too. If the player gets to decide whether Ci-Ci dated Felix, why can't they decide if Fatima was sexual with her brothers or if Cole dated Bailey?

Anyway, you're technically right that there isn't really a drawback (for the player) to add this choice, so it wouldn't really matter to me if Ranli did add it, I'm just telling you that it's very unlikely to ever happen.

 

[randomguy6516265165]

Silverback means that you will not share the LI, not that the LI hasn't had a past sexual life.

oh I thought it also blocked the scenes on top of that

 

[DirectXD1943]

It is confusing when you say that you don't have an issue with her being sexually active, but then complain that she's the "town bike" or whatever. If her not being a virgin is not the issue, then why is just a mention of her having past relationships such a big deal?

Why do you see it as binary? Do most people you know either sleep with no one or everyone? Is that your logic? I'm saying if she had slept with one of the people in her enlistment group, or someone from the pleasure crew, or just about anyone else, I'd be fine. The fact I have to spell that out for you is concerning.

I was not "mad" about your comment, I just found it really strange to quote a comment by the dev from years ago to complain about a porn game character having had sex and a relationship as part of their stated backstory.

This is a website for porn games. What else do you want me to comment on, the last Red Sox game? The Israel-Palestine conflict? I'm making a complaint about a porn game on the porn game's page. Where else do you want me to talk about it? Why do so many of these things confuse you???

Ci-Ci dating Felix is something that has been established as early as her introduction and will most likely continue to be a part of her and Felix's story when he will be introduced into the main plot. The player gets to choose how much of it they want to see, and how the MC's current relationship with them will change (cause I'm pretty sure Felix will also be a PLI).

Letting the player modify a pretty significant part of their backstory will actually be a pretty big change and way too much work at this point for, frankly, very little payoff, and it will set a pretty big precedent when it comes to modifying other character's backstory too. If the player gets to decide whether Ci-Ci dated Felix, why can't they decide if Fatima was sexual with her brothers or if Cole dated Bailey?

Except we aren't initially shown them having sex, we're shown them having nudes. You know, the exact example I use in my suggestions for choices. We as the player obviously *speculate* they did, but we don't know until it's confirmed later on in the bunk. Maybe this idea is too much thought for a game that has a demon with tits and a dick, but I think it makes plenty of sense that she may have been more sexually liberal than the MC, but still was more sexually repressed. Both Anna and Sam (to my knowledge) show this. Cole is shown to be a bully and rebellious. Fatima is from the "backlands" or whatever they call it, and they literally describe them being incestuous. Ci-Ci isn't made as being a slut, it just randomly pops up. In fact, she's more shown as being sexually curious. For her to be mad at us for having sex with the chick SHE had sex with ON TOP OF everyone else makes no sense if she's supposedly so sexually liberal.

What if, as previously stated, she was planning on having sex with Felix, but she got enlisted before that happened? What if she was just experimenting (e.g. handjobs), but didn't actually want to have sex with him? There's literally a myriad of ways to do it, and the benefit is that most of these literally only require a couple lines of dialogue if the dev doesn't want to make any new renders.

Anyway, you're technically right that there isn't really a drawback (for the player) to add this choice, so it wouldn't really matter to me if Ranli did add it, I'm just telling you that it's very unlikely to ever happen.

Certainly made a long comment to just agree with me later. If that was really your only point, you would've written "I don't think he'll do that, but it'd be nice", then we wouldn't be here, but you wanted to try and argue like it's a ridiculous suggestion and that I shouldn't bring it up. Make up your mind dude.

 

[DirectXD1943]

oh I thought it also blocked the scenes on top of that

You'd think, but they don't really use the kink choices very well. Some parts of the game literally require you to turn some on, even if you don't want to, in order to progress the game, so they don't really matter unfortunately.

 

[randomguy6516265165]

You'd think, but they don't really use the kink choices very well. Some parts of the game literally require you to turn some on, even if you don't want to, in order to progress the game, so they don't really matter unfortunately.

might drop this game then, Im already getting tired with so many paths and choices

 

[Oliz82]

Hello.

Did you even play the fucking game? You literally get a choice with Anna about whether she gets molested by Sarge or not. It's in the game. She literally describes her as maternal if you say that you hope she didn't. It's changing the past, that's why you don't see the actual scene beforehand. How is it that you people manage to get pissy about my comment that's TOTALLY reasonable if
1) the focus of the game is on choice
2) the dev actually wants us to have real LIs

This is the only choice we have for that shower scene and it's watching or not. I don't know what mod you used but there's no way to prevent anything.

You're describing Ci-ci as just curious but with the second memory, when she is applying the snake oil, she is more focused on his dick than his ass, the conversation he spies on at the start is pretty explicit too, and with their reunion, we learn pretty well how liberated she is.

I don't understand what you're trying to say. Your two points may be right but the changes you want to happen would only make sense if Jimmy had the hability to time travel. So it feels more like you're asking the game to fit your tastes.

Good continuation.

 

[CutieLvr]

Waiting on a compressed version, pretty please.

 

[gregers]

Can the gay avoided?

I didn't see it in the tags but is there ntr, swinging or sharing in the game? if so can this be blocked completely?

Teh Gayz are avoidable. Not much outright sharing etc. in the game yet (as there aren't much in the way of regular relationships: can't share what you don't have) but the MC starts out from an extremely sexually repressive background and most of the characters are/have been far more sexually promiscuous than him. To what extent you (a) seek out or (b) are bothered by other characters' escapades is up to you.

 

[DirectXD1943]

Hello.


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This is the only choice we have for that shower scene and it's watching or not. I don't know what mod you used but there's no way to prevent anything.

You're describing Ci-ci as just curious but with the second memory, when she is applying the snake oil, she is more focused on his dick than his ass, the conversation he spies on at the start is pretty explicit too, and with their reunion, we learn pretty well how liberated she is.

I don't understand what you're trying to say. Your two points may be right but the changes you want to happen would only make sense if Jimmy had the hability to time travel. So it feels more like you're asking the game to fit your tastes.

Good continuation.

Hello.


On your first point, you're wrong, and it's incredible to see you be so confidently incorrect.

On your second point, you're not disproving anything I said. You're describing her not having sex. That's all you're doing. She has a call with Felix, and then rubs ointment on the player's ass with a placebo. She hasn't had sex by then.

On your third point, there had been no actual show of her having actually had sex before the bunk scene and thus, by that point, she hadn't had sex. I'll use Schrodinger's Cat as the easiest analogy, although I'm not sure if you'll actually get it. She hasn't had sex until we, the player, see her having sex. We have to open the box for it to be true (i.e. be shown her having sex). How we view events occurring is real time. That is the only consistency that matters. That is the reason being shown a flashback of a love interest having sex with someone else is still NTR, because it doesn't matter about the world we are seeing, the only one that matters is the world we inhabit.

There is quite literally nothing stopping the dev from making the same choice for Anna, to be for Ci-Ci. I even went through the effort to describe how that would work, which you either chose to ignore, didn't understand, or can't comprehend.

The fact you are genuinely describing this as if these events really happened and that they aren't photos of staged 3D models that can be changed on the whims of the dev is almost disappointing in it's stupidity. How all of you people seem to want to argue with me when none of you seem to have any sense of rational thought is staggering to me.

Good continuation.

 

[randomguy6516265165]

Hello.

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On your first point, you're wrong, and it's incredible to see you be so confidently incorrect.

On your second point, you're not disproving anything I said. You're describing her not having sex. That's all you're doing. She has a call with Felix, and then rubs ointment on the player's ass with a placebo. She hasn't had sex by then.

On your third point, there had been no actual show of her having actually had sex before the bunk scene and thus, by that point, she hadn't had sex. I'll use Schrodinger's Cat as the easiest analogy, although I'm not sure if you'll actually get it. She hasn't had sex until we, the player, see her having sex. We have to open the box for it to be true (i.e. be shown her having sex). How we view events occurring is real time. That is the only consistency that matters. That is the reason being shown a flashback of a love interest having sex with someone else is still NTR, because it doesn't matter about the world we are seeing, the only one that matters is the world we inhabit.

There is quite literally nothing stopping the dev from making the same choice for Anna, to be for Ci-Ci. I even went through the effort to describe how that would work, which you either chose to ignore, didn't understand, or can't comprehend.

The fact you are genuinely describing this as if these events really happened and that they aren't photos of staged 3D models that can be changed on the whims of the dev is almost disappointing in it's stupidity. How all of you people seem to want to argue with me when none of you seem to have any sense of rational thought is staggering to me.

Good continuation.

I stopped playing right after that shower scene with sarge and anna and the other user is right either you watch it or you dont either way the same thing happens in both cases, just in one of those cases the player doesnt see the renders

 

[Oliz82]

Hello.

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On your first point, you're wrong, and it's incredible to see you be so confidently incorrect.

You're talking about the shower scene but you show the one in Sarge's bedroom. Either you're contradictory or just stupid.
Also, the molestation isn't limited to the shower scene but from the moment she was kidnapped by Sarge until now.

On your second point, you're not disproving anything I said. You're describing her not having sex. That's all you're doing. She has a call with Felix, and then rubs ointment on the player's ass with a placebo. She hasn't had sex by then.

Just because we didn't see it doesn't mean she didn't have sex.
I was responding to you saying she is just curious which is clearly wrong and you're talking about her having sex which immo isn't limited to penetration either...

On your third point, there had been no actual show of her having actually had sex before the bunk scene and thus, by that point, she hadn't had sex. I'll use Schrodinger's Cat as the easiest analogy, although I'm not sure if you'll actually get it. She hasn't had sex until we, the player, see her having sex. We have to open the box for it to be true (i.e. be shown her having sex). How we view events occurring is real time. That is the only consistency that matters. That is the reason being shown a flashback of a love interest having sex with someone else is still NTR, because it doesn't matter about the world we are seeing, the only one that matters is the world we inhabit.

The same answer as above : just because we don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. The blowjob must be my imagination too (yeah it's in her head but it fits your pitch).
And we are at the core of your bias : you're a member of the anti NTR crowd. I had my suspicions but now it's clear.
She already had sex, we just didn't know it since we are seing the game through Jimmy's eyes.
And no, it isn't NTR. You can't be NTRed if you aren't together as a couple when it occurs (though it's not something you'll agree).
No, it isn't real time either. We learn something that happened in the past : the learning is actual, the event is in the past.

There is quite literally nothing stopping the dev from making the same choice for Anna, to be for Ci-Ci. I even went through the effort to describe how that would work, which you either chose to ignore, didn't understand, or can't comprehend.

You're expecting people to agree with you when what you are saying is partial and biased. You want it for Ci-ci but not others : stay consistent. Your example doesn't work for me either : in the second choice, you want her to say she wasn't molested to be reassured, so what she says isn't necessarily the truth.

The fact you are genuinely describing this as if these events really happened and that they aren't photos of staged 3D models that can be changed on the whims of the dev is almost disappointing in it's stupidity. How all of you people seem to want to argue with me when none of you seem to have any sense of rational thought is staggering to me.

Well, being triggered by NTR is as stupid. Your rationality is questionable too. What you're saying is that you don't want to see it, not that she shouldn't have sex with cousin Felix in the past.

Anyway, I'm done. You can have the last word since you want to cling to your point of view, as false as it may be.

Good continuation.

 

[WazawaiDa]

Why do you see it as binary? Do most people you know either sleep with no one or everyone? Is that your logic? I'm saying if she had slept with one of the people in her enlistment group, or someone from the pleasure crew, or just about anyone else, I'd be fine. The fact I have to spell that out for you is concerning.

My logic here is that we're talking about a porn game character, why would it matter at all whether they had a hundred partners or just one? Acting so possessive about a 3D model and being so obsessed with its perceived promiscuity is what's "concerning".

This is a website for porn games. What else do you want me to comment on, the last Red Sox game? The Israel-Palestine conflict? I'm making a complaint about a porn game on the porn game's page. Where else do you want me to talk about it? Why do so many of these things confuse you???

I know what these forums are for. As I said before, your choice to @ the dev by quoting a comment from years ago made no sense to me, he no longer posts here, and your complaint was ridiculous, otherwise I wouldn't have commented on it.

We as the player obviously *speculate* they did, but we don't know until it's confirmed later on in the bunk.

she may have been more sexually liberal than the MC, but still was more sexually repressed.

Ci-Ci isn't made as being a slut, it just randomly pops up. In fact, she's more shown as being sexually curious.

For her to be mad at us for having sex with the chick SHE had sex with ON TOP OF everyone else makes no sense if she's supposedly so sexually liberal.

There's nothing in the game to suggest that Ci-Ci was sexually repressed at any point. Her introductory flashback literally starts with her having webcam sex with Felix, talking about how wet she is and how big and thick his and MC's cocks are. The point of the scene is to establish that she has already been sexually active even back on Ganymede and that she dated Felix at the time. The game doesn't literally spell it out for the player, sure, but that's because the MC is the narrator, he's supposed to be naive and clueless. The player is perfectly able to interpret the very not-subtle context clues on their own.

The reason she's so mad at the MC for having sex with Meera, and everyone else, is largely because she's jealous. Again, the game doesn't literally spell it out (at least from what I recall), but from the dialogue it's obvious that she'd waited for a long time to reunite with him and went to great lengths to be placed in charge of him. Only for the MC to then spend most of his first day running around having sex with everyone on the ship and even ending up in jail, leaving her waiting for him. She will obviously be pissed off at him, even though he hasn't really done anything wrong. This has quite literally nothing to do with sexual liberation or whatever (in fact, she's actually happy the MC stopped being so repressed and got rid of his old hang-ups).

Certainly made a long comment to just agree with me later. If that was really your only point, you would've written "I don't think he'll do that, but it'd be nice", then we wouldn't be here, but you wanted to try and argue like it's a ridiculous suggestion and that I shouldn't bring it up. Make up your mind dude.

I wouldn't have written that because that's not what I think. Just because I acknowledge that the dev could technically add the option to change characters' sexual history doesn't mean I don't think your complaint is ridiculous. It is, just like the general obsession that this site has with "NTR" (there's almost none*(you can only fantasise about Cole cucking you so far) in this game, NTR doesn't mean "female character has sex with someone who's not the MC").

 

[DirectXD1943]

My logic here is that we're talking about a porn game character, why would it matter at all whether they had a hundred partners or just one? Acting so possessive about a 3D model and being so obsessed with its perceived promiscuity is what's "concerning".


I know what these forums are for. As I said before, your choice to @ the dev by quoting a comment from years ago made no sense to me, he no longer posts here, and your complaint was ridiculous, otherwise I wouldn't have commented on it.


There's nothing in the game to suggest that Ci-Ci was sexually repressed at any point. Her introductory flashback literally starts with her having webcam sex with Felix, talking about how wet she is and how big and thick his and MC's cocks are. The point of the scene is to establish that she has already been sexually active even back on Ganymede and that she dated Felix at the time. The game doesn't literally spell it out for the player, sure, but that's because the MC is the narrator, he's supposed to be naive and clueless. The player is perfectly able to interpret the very not-subtle context clues on their own.

The reason she's so mad at the MC for having sex with Meera, and everyone else, is largely because she's jealous. Again, the game doesn't literally spell it out (at least from what I recall), but from the dialogue it's obvious that she'd waited for a long time to reunite with him and went to great lengths to be placed in charge of him. Only for the MC to then spend most of his first day running around having sex with everyone on the ship and even ending up in jail, leaving her waiting for him. She will obviously be pissed off at him, even though he hasn't really done anything wrong. This has quite literally nothing to do with sexual liberation or whatever (in fact, she's actually happy the MC stopped being so repressed and got rid of his old hang-ups).


I wouldn't have written that because that's not what I think. Just because I acknowledge that the dev could technically add the option to change characters' sexual history doesn't mean I don't think your complaint is ridiculous. It is, just like the general obsession that this site has with "NTR" (there's almost none*(you can only fantasise about Cole cucking you so far) in this game, NTR doesn't mean "female character has sex with someone who's not the MC").

God, you write a hell of a lot for someone who supposedly doesn't care.

I can't be fucked seperating your stupid ass comment, so I'm just gonna dot point it.

- He was arrested, her argument that he was fucking around (while technically true) makes zero sense for someone who was quite literally arrested, and she refused to listen to literally anything he says. If she's an empath, she would get even a minute sense that he's telling the truth.

- Stop making me repeat myself. I literally said you're lead to believe it, but it isn't true unless it's shown or stated. Give me a fucking break. I literally say nudes, more than once, which isn't sex. How you can't wrap your head around something so fucking simple is pathetic.

- NTR, in THIS site, is defined as "A love interest has sexual contact with someone else without the approval of the protagonist, either voluntarily or from some form of coercion". She is a love interest, having sexual contact without the approval of the protagonist. Whether in the past or present, she is a LI, and we are being shown her having sex which is not approved of unless you SPECIFICALLY state as such. Thus, it IS NTR.

Talking to you is like pulling toe nails.

 

[DirectXD1943]

Hello.


You're talking about the shower scene but you show the one in Sarge's bedroom. Either you're contradictory or just stupid.
Also, the molestation isn't limited to the shower scene but from the moment she was kidnapped by Sarge until now.


Just because we didn't see it doesn't mean she didn't have sex.
I was responding to you saying she is just curious which is clearly wrong and you're talking about her having sex which immo isn't limited to penetration either...


The same answer as above : just because we don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. The blowjob must be my imagination too (yeah it's in her head but it fits your pitch).
And we are at the core of your bias : you're a member of the anti NTR crowd. I had my suspicions but now it's clear.
She already had sex, we just didn't know it since we are seing the game through Jimmy's eyes.
And no, it isn't NTR. You can't be NTRed if you aren't together as a couple when it occurs (though it's not something you'll agree).
No, it isn't real time either. We learn something that happened in the past : the learning is actual, the event is in the past.


You're expecting people to agree with you when what you are saying is partial and biased. You want it for Ci-ci but not others : stay consistent. Your example doesn't work for me either : in the second choice, you want her to say she wasn't molested to be reassured, so what she says isn't necessarily the truth.


Well, being triggered by NTR is as stupid. Your rationality is questionable too. What you're saying is that you don't want to see it, not that she shouldn't have sex with cousin Felix in the past.

Anyway, I'm done. You can have the last word since you want to cling to your point of view, as false as it may be.

Good continuation.

I'm gonna dot point your stupid comment, I can't be fucked seperating it.

- NTR is defined on this site as "A love interest has sexual contact with someone else without the approval of the protagonist, either voluntarily or from some form of coercion". It is NTR, the fact you can't even wrap your head around a fucking definition of a word you're using proves to me my writing is wasted on you. Once again, I remind you that the timeline of the game is totally irrelevant. The definition does not mention that for that SPECIFIC reason, because the people who wrote the tags were smarter than you, and understood that seeing a scene of an LI having sex with someone else in the past is STILL NTR. NTR is ALWAYS better as a choice in theses games, as it is with every sexual interaction. The dev clearly understood that when he gave you the choice of whether Anna and Sarge had any sexual interaction.

- You not being able to figure out my comment was on the choice about the shower scene, despite the fact I literally describe what it is, is your fault. I'm not responsible for you being a dumb-ass.

- The scene, if you watched it, shows her describing Sarge as "almost *maternal*", and Anna repeatedly says she had no sexual interaction with her, if that choice is chosen. How you're trying to argue on something you clearly have no fucking clue what you're talking about is beyond me.

- Maybe you didn't see it because you're one of those NTR cucks, but I literally described the choice, in full, more than once, and you still didn't get it. She is KIDNAPPED, then they have a SHOWER, and then she brings her to her room. There is NO sexual interaction between them, unless you consider having sex just touching a naked person.

The fact of the matter is I didn't even discourage NTR, nor did I say it should be removed. You've come in here: not understanding what NTR is, not even comprehending the scenes I'm referencing, and not understanding how TIME works. You are here, getting mad over things you are showing you don't understand, because I said it would be better for the AVN to have that choice. Get a grip.