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Yep, that was the emo chick. And yeah, the slow dev time also made me only sporadically check it (maybe if the main story and mechanics had taken priority rather than the side characters...). Still, SS is a better game to hold in high regards than BB. That had only good renders going for it, as far as story went, that was just a clusterfuck (guess the lesson there is, if you want to make the game you want, don't listen to your patreons and don't make up the story as you go).
Ah - the immense satisfaction when a random guess turns out to be true! :D

I def prefer SS to BB - it's the humour and the quirks that first sold it to me... the rap game was just so pleasantly random. I won't be criticising any other devs for making shit up on the fly, though :)LOL: like 50% of my stuff just pops into my head as I'm doing it!)
Wait, you mean to say that you managed to create this awesome game by setting yourself really low standards? Damn, I wonder what you'd manage to achieve if you set yourself for standard something like Depraved Awakening... :unsure: :p

And no offence meant to anyone who likes the Summertime saga, it's just not my cup of tea, so I'm messing around with you a bit. ;)
Well - DA is another gold standard... along everything else by Philly, the sadly abandoned Coceter Chronicles and Two Sides (before Greono went insane). I'm pretty eclectic in my tastes (as you've probably guessed :LOL:) - the only major game I didn't enjoy was Superpowered... it started well, but I cannot abide grind!
 

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Oh, there's a difference between making shit up on the fly and making the story up as you go. I'm sure you have an endgoal in mind, you just fuck around on your way to get there. A lot of people just start with a premise and have no idea what to do after that, which ends up in a lot of abandonned storylines and failed characters.
 

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I always imagined that, were to work on a project like this, my approach would look something like this 0 0 0 0 0 , where the strikethrough represents the vanilla path and the 0s represent looping branches with more niche content that all converge on the same point in time but with the MC having experienced different events.

The most important part of this approach is that I would pretty much write the vanilla path before tackling the various branches so that, no matter how crazy they got, i'd always have a place to come back to.
 
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Oh, there's a difference between making shit up on the fly and making the story up as you go. I'm sure you have an endgoal in mind, you just fuck around on your way to get there. A lot of people just start with a premise and have no idea what to do after that, which ends up in a lot of abandonned storylines and failed characters.
Lol - I do... and it's the fucking around on my way that keeps it nice and fresh for me! But I agree that too many devs don't have much of an idea about narrative or character progression - or how to wind the various storylines around one another.
I always imagined that, were to work on a project like this, my approach would look something like this 0 0 0 0 0 , where the strikethrough represents the vanilla path and the 0s represent looping branches with more niche content that all converge on the same point in time but with the MC having experienced different events.

The most important part of this approach is that I would pretty much write the vanilla path before tackling the various branches so that, no matter how crazy they got, i'd always have a place to come back to.
Not a bad approach. You know what my paths look like from the mental walkthrough diagrams :LOL:
 
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Lol - I do... and it's the fucking around on my way that keeps it nice and fresh for me! But I agree that too many devs don't have much of an idea about narrative or character progression - or how to wind the various storylines around one another.

Not a bad approach. You know what my paths look like from the mental walkthrough diagrams :LOL:
True but your approach is far more flexible for the player. Adapting this approach to your game would force the player to choose an LI from the start and focus solely on them as you wouldn't be getting points with the other; it's more suited to a CYOA game than what you've created and nowhere near as interesting.
 
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Well - DA is another gold standard... along everything else by Philly, the sadly abandoned Coceter Chronicles and Two Sides (before Greono went insane). I'm pretty eclectic in my tastes (as you've probably guessed :LOL:) - the only major game I didn't enjoy was Superpowered... it started well, but I cannot abide grind!
I'm still hoping Njeveros returns one day to finish Coceter Chronicles. That was the only game with a female MC that I truly enjoyed, not to mention Njeveros' superb storytelling skills...

I'm not familliar with Two sides but I completely agree with you when it comes to Superpowered - it had a lot of potential but the grind really sucked the fun out of it. Hell, even playing with cheats was tedious and repetitive... There was also the fact that MC is one of the ugliest and least relatable in any game. :LOL:
 
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I'm still hoping Njeveros returns one day to finish Coceter Chronicles. That was the only game with a female MC that I truly enjoyed, not to mention Njeveros' superb storytelling skills...

I'm not familliar with Two sides but I completely agree with you when it comes to Superpowered - it had a lot of potential but the grind really sucked the fun out of it. Hell, even playing with cheats was tedious and repetitive... There was also the fact that MC is one of the ugliest and least relatable in any game. :LOL:
Coceter probably won't ever come back, it was a project between I think a son and dad team, the dad died. So it just got put away.

Two sides was a game with promise that got remade I think this is the 3rd or 4th time. It went from VN to 3D game to I think a midway and back to VN. Which each version lost all work of the previous... so yeah.

I miss original superpowered when it was Real images on Rags or QSP I think. The newer thing doesn't really look good, and requires specific powers to be able to do anything so it just became linear grind.

Then we have the worst of the worst, the ginger of spacecorps, of course Demons are after him, he has no soul.
 
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Coceter probably won't ever come back, it was a project between I think a son and dad team, the dad died. So it just got put away.
No, Njeveros' dad was his/her important role model and got him/her into storytelling but they didn't work together on this game. His death did impact him/her a lot and the game reminded Njeveros of him too much nevertheless.

As for Njeveros' sex, it was never revealed and there was a lot of guessing about that, since hints supporting either option were found. :)
 
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No, Njeveros' dad was his/her important role model and got him/her into storytelling but they didn't work together on this game. His death did impact him/her a lot and the game reminded Njeveros of him too much nevertheless.

As for Njeveros' sex, it was never revealed and there was a lot of guessing about that, since hints supporting either option were found. :)
I always figured Njeveros was trans - no idea which way. Kinda glad to hear I wasn't a dad/son team making a sex game, tho - that would be... odd. It's a shame the game was abandoned, since it was so well done, but the reasons are very understandable and her last post was really touching.

Two sides was a game with promise that got remade I think this is the 3rd or 4th time. It went from VN to 3D game to I think a midway and back to VN. Which each version lost all work of the previous... so yeah.

I miss original superpowered when it was Real images on Rags or QSP I think. The newer thing doesn't really look good, and requires specific powers to be able to do anything so it just became linear grind.
Yeah - I kinda wonder if 2Sides has been passed repeatedly between devs given the difference. That or perfectionism ran rampant and killed off one of the most promising games I've seen! I didn't know Superpowered used to be real porn - never play the stuff myself. I just remember looking at the clock, realising that I'd been grinding joylessly for three hours, and deleting it :LOL:
 
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I always figured Njeveros was trans - no idea which way. Kinda glad to hear I wasn't a dad/son team making a sex game, tho - that would be... odd. It's a shame the game was abandoned, since it was so well done, but the reasons are very understandable and her last post was really touching.
That was my guess as well, mostly due to the fact that the character in the game who had the same first name as Njeveros was futa. :)
 
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Ah, I am far removed from the game, I think I played it once in the early days, all my information is bad memory of what some 3rd party said.

Well a Dad/Son duo making porn games can be your next side game. Picture this. Green Alien lady visits Roswell, specifically the town that is Alien tourist crazy. Now the dad and son are Alien and tech obsessed, they get some VR headsets and try to program their own game while wearing them (think 90s anime serial experiments lain etc) During one of the tests the green alien lady visits them and gives a tit job. They are ecstatic their game works... until they find out it doesn't and now they got a (insert acronym close to ufo) from a real life alien. Then close encounters of the 3rd kind kicks off.
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I do hope some of the good storytellers who vanished come back.

A few games that popped out of nowhere and then straight vanished.

Obrenor the outcast prince. Interesting story, able to choose love interests, the devs decided they want to make normal games and no one has any clue who they are.

Pure heart chronicles. Full 1st game just plopped down. Good art, story, humor. Nobody has heard anything since.

Chasing Crowns was a good new storyline. Big Brother-esque game with I guess anime mystery to it.

Noble Privileges was BDSM/Corruption focused but the MC at least was smart/interesting.

Lovely Sails which is basically a western remake of the softhousechara game of being stranded on an island, with new humor. Didn't do so hot, weirdly enough The price of eden which is again same basic thing so far just better art seems to get attention.
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I only remember Superpowered was real porn because you could get a job at the airport and a superpowered girl who you were supposed to watch for would mez you, the image was one of those girls blowing large bubble gum types so it sticks out in your brain.

In all truth the only good Real porn rags/qsp game was Evil. Inc and that was just because it was dumb funny.
 

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That was my guess as well, mostly due to the fact that the character in the game who had the same first name as Njeveros was futa. :)
I didn't pick that up! :LOL: (still wanna know what happened to the werewolf :cry:)
Ah, I am far removed from the game, I think I played it once in the early days, all my information is bad memory of what some 3rd party said.

Well a Dad/Son duo making porn games can be your next side game. Picture this. Green Alien lady visits Roswell, specifically the town that is Alien tourist crazy. Now the dad and son are Alien and tech obsessed, they get some VR headsets and try to program their own game while wearing them (think 90s anime serial experiments lain etc) During one of the tests the green alien lady visits them and gives a tit job. They are ecstatic their game works... until they find out it doesn't and now they got a (insert acronym close to ufo) from a real life alien. Then close encounters of the 3rd kind kicks off.
------

I do hope some of the good storytellers who vanished come back.

A few games that popped out of nowhere and then straight vanished.

Obrenor the outcast prince. Interesting story, able to choose love interests, the devs decided they want to make normal games and no one has any clue who they are.

Pure heart chronicles. Full 1st game just plopped down. Good art, story, humor. Nobody has heard anything since.

Chasing Crowns was a good new storyline. Big Brother-esque game with I guess anime mystery to it.

Noble Privileges was BDSM/Corruption focused but the MC at least was smart/interesting.

Lovely Sails which is basically a western remake of the softhousechara game of being stranded on an island, with new humor. Didn't do so hot, weirdly enough The price of eden which is again same basic thing so far just better art seems to get attention.
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I only remember Superpowered was real porn because you could get a job at the airport and a superpowered girl who you were supposed to watch for would mez you, the image was one of those girls blowing large bubble gum types so it sticks out in your brain.

In all truth the only good Real porn rags/qsp game was Evil. Inc and that was just because it was dumb funny.
I have played none of these! Lol - you can miss so much, esp with so many games disappearing off the SEO/rankings if they're not updated constantly! I currently have high hopes for Fall Fable (nice artwork, fun gameplay, smart dev).
 

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I didn't pick that up! :LOL: (still wanna know what happened to the werewolf :cry:)

I have played none of these! Lol - you can miss so much, esp with so many games disappearing off the SEO/rankings if they're not updated constantly! I currently have high hopes for Fall Fable (nice artwork, fun gameplay, smart dev).
With all the games on this site, probably maybe 200 are really good, and most of them will be abandoned or have been. While games like dual family lurches forward in its dead/undead state.

At least we have weird space porn.
 

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But I agree that too many devs don't have much of an idea about narrative or character progression - or how to wind the various storylines around one another.
I learned that when I was still writing fanfiction. My first Pokémon story (don't judge, it was a long time ago) I had a concept but cut that story short because I didn't have enough filler (still got to where I wanted to go with the story, though). It did teach me to plan ahead and helped me write the sequel. My Zelda fanfic really took off when I had a better grasp on where I wanted to go. It is as the saying goes, it's about the journey, not the destination, but you have to keep in mind you still need to reach that destination.

Kinda glad to hear I wasn't a dad/son team making a sex game, tho - that would be... odd.
As opposed to a dad/daughter team? You, sir, have been spending too much time on this site. These games have had a bad influence on you.
 
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As opposed to a dad/daughter team? You, sir, have been spending too much time on this site. These games have had a bad influence on you.
:ROFLMAO: Making porn does tend to warp one's perspective... I'd agree with lemonfreak that a real familial porn-team would be a bit creepy!

But I won't judge Zelda or Pokémon - mine's based on Starship Troopers :LOL:
We need more of this and less landladies... :LOL:
Or at least alien landladies! :alien:
 
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