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Bratmichelz

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"It looks like a cartoon" gotta be the most ignorant statement I've heard all week. Even if it 'looks like a cartoon', it was still drawn to look like a child. And if it walks, talks, acts and looks like a child, then it's probably a fucking child unless stated otherwise.

Also to quote a previous post, the whole "its a fictional character so it doesn't count" argument is just ridiculous as well. If you're using this as justification for liking lolis then you are probably a pedophile. And yes it depends on the character, but maybe you should reconsider what you are doing with your life if you're debating the legality of fucking a supposed child

If your into the body type then i won't downplay your sexual preferences, but what that says about you as a person is debatable.
Ok, i see what you're trying to say, but you're still wrong. It literally looks and is a cartoon. Just because it's meant to like like a "child" does not make it look anything like a real child.

Let's use kanna from Dragon Maid, for example. Her head is bigger than her shoulders and chest combined, her pupils are bigger than her hands, her skin has no blemishes or natural marks, also she has no nose! She also has child-bearing hips. None of these features remotley resemble a real life child but instead a cartoon loli. If you see a real life child, it sounds like projection and is a you problem.

Then you say the "its a fictional character doesn't count" argument is ridiculous because it's about lolis. Too that i say it's a fictional character, which means it does not exist, so it literally doesn't count. But for the sake of argument, let's use your standards. The majority of these hentai games involve abuse and rape of fictional women and by that logic, all of us fappers are pro rapist. Why? Well the fictional women walks like one, talks like one, acts like one so it must be a fucking women. Yet we got off of seeing these women being raped which makes us sick bastards.

Now lets use more pragmatic standards which means clearly thats not the case because we fantasize about these sexual kinks but would never do them in reality because its a cartoon and nothing more. A fantasy, fiction, not real. Also side note real women look up rape porn the most because its their favorite genre but dont want to be raped in real life because no shit who does.

Finally i'll agree with you that you may think whatever that says about me as a person because loli is a weird kink. But most sexual kinks are weird. All in all, Loli does not equal pedo. Pedos should be buried under a jail after they eat shit and die.
 
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p0y

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Ok, i see what you're trying to say, but you're still wrong. It literally looks and is a cartoon. Just because it's meant to like like a "child" does not make it look anything like a real child.

Let's use kanna from Dragon Maid, for example. Her head is bigger than her shoulders and chest combined, her pupils are bigger than her hands, her skin has no blemishes or natural marks, also she has no nose! She also has child-bearing hips. None of these features remotley resemble a real life child but instead a cartoon loli. If you see a real life child, it sounds like projection and is a you problem.

Then you say the "its a fictional character doesn't count" argument is ridiculous because it's about lolis. Too that i say it's a fictional character, which means it does not exist, so it literally doesn't count. But for the sake of argument, let's use your standards. The majority of these hentai games involve abuse and rape of fictional women and by that logic, all of us fappers are pro rapist. Why? Well the fictional women walks like one, talks like one, acts like one so it must be a fucking women. Yet we got off of seeing these women being raped which makes us sick bastards.

Now lets use more pragmatic standards which means clearly thats not the case because we fantasize about these sexual kinks but would never do them in reality because its a cartoon and nothing more. A fantasy, fiction, not real. Also side note real women look up rape porn the most because its their favorite genre but dont want to be raped in real life because no shit who does.

Finally i'll agree with you that you may think whatever that says about me as a person because loli is a weird kink. But most sexual kinks are weird. All in all, Loli does not equal pedo. Pedos should be buried under a jail after they eat shit and die.

I didn't think I needed to say this because I thought this was obvious, but what the character looks like has nothing to do with what they actually are. Sure, they may have `child-bearing hips` but that doesn't change the fact that there were intentions of looking like a child. Yeah no shit anime characters don't look like real people, quite the astute observation. Let me reiterate what a loli is. The term loli originated from the 1955 book `Lolita`, and this might surprise you, the book is about a grown man becoming infatuated with a 12 year old girl. Over the years the term `Lolita` has evolved into a genre of fashion, as well as the archetype of characters you see in japan. And as you would guess, the term applies to characters who are specifically designed to look like children. Saying you `like lolis` is tantamount to being a pedophile. And I don't know why you assume you speak for everyone in saying `all of us fappers are pro rapist`. I don't actively want to rape people, but I assume you meant you don't actually wan't to rape people but rather you constrain your sexual fantasies to just fiction. If that's not the case, then it really isn't helping your argument and to be honest I'm not sure why you included that whole bit about rape as it stands more to frame you as a weirdo than it does to help your argument.

And what do you mean it `doesn't count if it's a fictional character.` Are you okay? Fictional characters aren't real, but your attraction to them most certainly is. It makes no difference if it's pixels on a screen or a porn mag, if you are attracted to what you are seeing then it makes your preferences real, and can be reflected onto the real world. I know that you could maybe find attraction to a loli with huge tits and think "Well this could never happen in the real world so that doesn't make me a pedo." and maybe it doesn't, but once again the implications are there. The fictional world isn't some fantasy land where all your thoughts are magically contained and nobody will ever see them. The way you feel about things privately can reflect onto you as a person and how you interact with other people.

Listen, if you like small women, you can say that. You can just say "I like smaller women". I personally like small women as well, but that is entirely different than saying you like lolis, as lolis are not always children, but have the design and makings of a child, and by saying you like them, the implications are that you like children. And I know that there are instances where its maybe excusable to say you like the character and would fuck them, but those are few and far between, and in most cases saying that would get you a life sentence.
 
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Minishotgun

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Does that mean we gotta put people who are into Guro on a watchlist because they get turned on by mutilating the person they wanna fuck? and does liking incest porn by that logic mean that the siblings i don't have should take start listening to sweet home Alabama?

i just don't like the argument that liking something equates to implicating i wanna do it in real life, i love driving over pedestrians in GTA, that doesn't mean i wanna kill real people.
 

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I didn't think I needed to say this because I thought this was obvious, but what the character looks like has nothing to do with what they actually are. Sure, they may have `child-bearing hips` but that doesn't change the fact that there were intentions of looking like a child. Yeah no shit anime characters don't look like real people, quite the astute observation. Let me reiterate what a loli is. The term loli originated from the 1955 book `Lolita`, and this might surprise you, the book is about a grown man becoming infatuated with a 12 year old girl. Over the years the term `Lolita` has evolved into a genre of fashion, as well as the archetype of characters you see in japan. And as you would guess, the term applies to characters who are specifically designed to look like children. Saying you `like lolis` is tantamount to being a pedophile. And I don't know why you assume you speak for everyone in saying `all of us fappers are pro rapist`. I don't actively want to rape people, but I assume you meant you don't actually wan't to rape people but rather you constrain your sexual fantasies to just fiction. If that's not the case, then it really isn't helping your argument and to be honest I'm not sure why you included that whole bit about rape as it stands more to frame you as a weirdo than it does to help your argument.

And what do you mean it `doesn't count if it's a fictional character.` Are you okay? Fictional characters aren't real, but your attraction to them most certainly is. It makes no difference if it's pixels on a screen or a porn mag, if you are attracted to what you are seeing then it makes your preferences real, and can be reflected onto the real world. I know that you could maybe find attraction to a loli with huge tits and think "Well this could never happen in the real world so that doesn't make me a pedo." and maybe it doesn't, but once again the implications are there. The fictional world isn't some fantasy land where all your thoughts are magically contained and nobody will ever see them. The way you feel about things privately can reflect onto you as a person and how you interact with other people.

Listen, if you like small women, you can say that. You can just say "I like smaller women". I personally like small women as well, but that is entirely different than saying you like lolis, as lolis are not always children, but have the design and makings of a child, and by saying you like them, the implications are that you like children. And I know that there are instances where its maybe excusable to say you like the character and would fuck them, but those are few and far between, and in most cases saying that would get you a life sentence.
I never personally understood this logic I mean for instance Gender was coined by John Money a man who preformed abusive experiments on children that was borderline pedophilia. Does this mean that those who take the concept of gender and pronouns synonymous with child abusers, How about transgenders are they child molesters? Or are most of the people who use and take it to heart are ignorant to it's terrible origins or more than likely changed the connotations?

Then with the fictional characters mean it does not count argument. should people who play a game like GTA and mainly go on murder sprees and committing property damage as they go be considered sociopaths? I mean if it's something that they find fun are there truly implications of these people going to commit these genocidal acts? If so then you're making a similar argument that Jack Thompson has used decades ago. That eventually led to him losing his credibility as a lawyer.

If you say that you're attracted to furries are you saying that you're a potential zoophile? I mean Bugs Bunny looks like a rabbit and even acts like a rabbit in some contexts. What about Mufasa who despite being an animal runs a near complete human-like society. Fiction allows people to explore these concepts so what's the harm? nobody isn't getting hurt.

It sounds like one of those correlation not causation arguments but do educate me if I'm wrong here
 
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p0y

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I never personally understood this logic I mean for instance Gender was coined by John Money a man who preformed abusive experiments on children that was borderline pedophilia. Does this mean that those who take the concept of gender and pronouns synonymous with child abusers, How about transgenders are they child molesters? Or are most of the people who use and take it to heart are ignorant to it's terrible origins/Decided to change the meaning?

Then with the fictional characters mean it does not count argument. do people who play a game like GTA and mainly go on murder sprees and committing property damage as they go sociopaths? I mean if it's something that they find fun are there truly implications of these people going to commit these genocidal acts? if so then you're making a similar argument that Jack Thompson has used decades ago.

If you say that you're attracted to furries are you saying that you're a potential zoophile?

It sounds like one of those correlation not causation arguments but do educate me if I'm wrong here
I get what you mean, but it depends on the subject. In the case of furries being zoophiles, obivously that's not the case, because well being a furry does not automatically make you attracted to animals, or hell being a furry doesn't even mean your into kemonomini or anthro. I don't believe liking lolis automatically makes you a pedophile, but I will say that if you state your own attraction to them, then if you get called a pedophile, then you should reiterate that your not attracted to children, but rather the body type of the character, and you shouldn't use the "It's a fictional character" argument for the reasons I mentioned in my previous posts. And if the character is outright stated to be a child, then I personally believe liking that character makes you a pedophile, unless you're a child yourself.
 

Bratmichelz

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I didn't think I needed to say this because I thought this was obvious, but what the character looks like has nothing to do with what they actually are. Sure, they may have `child-bearing hips` but that doesn't change the fact that there were intentions of looking like a child. Yeah no shit anime characters don't look like real people, quite the astute observation. Let me reiterate what a loli is. The term loli originated from the 1955 book `Lolita`, and this might surprise you, the book is about a grown man becoming infatuated with a 12 year old girl. Over the years the term `Lolita` has evolved into a genre of fashion, as well as the archetype of characters you see in japan. And as you would guess, the term applies to characters who are specifically designed to look like children. Saying you `like lolis` is tantamount to being a pedophile. And I don't know why you assume you speak for everyone in saying `all of us fappers are pro rapist`. I don't actively want to rape people, but I assume you meant you don't actually wan't to rape people but rather you constrain your sexual fantasies to just fiction. If that's not the case, then it really isn't helping your argument and to be honest I'm not sure why you included that whole bit about rape as it stands more to frame you as a weirdo than it does to help your argument.

And what do you mean it `doesn't count if it's a fictional character.` Are you okay? Fictional characters aren't real, but your attraction to them most certainly is. It makes no difference if it's pixels on a screen or a porn mag, if you are attracted to what you are seeing then it makes your preferences real, and can be reflected onto the real world. I know that you could maybe find attraction to a loli with huge tits and think "Well this could never happen in the real world so that doesn't make me a pedo." and maybe it doesn't, but once again the implications are there. The fictional world isn't some fantasy land where all your thoughts are magically contained and nobody will ever see them. The way you feel about things privately can reflect onto you as a person and how you interact with other people.

Listen, if you like small women, you can say that. You can just say "I like smaller women". I personally like small women as well, but that is entirely different than saying you like lolis, as lolis are not always children, but have the design and makings of a child, and by saying you like them, the implications are that you like children. And I know that there are instances where its maybe excusable to say you like the character and would fuck them, but those are few and far between, and in most cases saying that would get you a life sentence.
Ok now I think your purposely misunderstanding what I said.
I get what you mean, but it depends on the subject. In the case of furries being zoophiles, obivously that's not the case, because well being a furry does not automatically make you attracted to animals, or hell being a furry doesn't even mean your into kemonomini or anthro. I don't believe liking lolis automatically makes you a pedophile, but I will say that if you state your own attraction to them, then if you get called a pedophile, then you should reiterate that your not attracted to children, but rather the body type of the character, and you shouldn't use the "It's a fictional character" argument for the reasons I mentioned in my previous posts. And if the character is outright stated to be a child, then I personally believe liking that character makes you a pedophile, unless you're a child yourself.
Ok so I don't know if you know this but age doesn't mean loli but
I get what you mean, but it depends on the subject. In the case of furries being zoophiles, obivously that's not the case, because well being a furry does not automatically make you attracted to animals, or hell being a furry doesn't even mean your into kemonomini or anthro. I don't believe liking lolis automatically makes you a pedophile, but I will say that if you state your own attraction to them, then if you get called a pedophile, then you should reiterate that your not attracted to children, but rather the body type of the character, and you shouldn't use the "It's a fictional character" argument for the reasons I mentioned in my previous posts. And if the character is outright stated to be a child, then I personally believe liking that character makes you a pedophile, unless you're a child yourself.
What your saying is
1) Fiction does matter because theres real attraction.
2) if the character is outright stated to be a child, then I personally believe liking that character makes you a pedophile.

Ok lets tackle argument 1. No fiction does not matter because no matter how many innocent people I kill in red dead redemption it doesnt mean i want to go out and kill real people.
You play spooky milk which has the main character (who looks like a little boy) get raped by monster women in the toy factory. p0y you commented "so from what I can tell, the duke character has a scene that requires you to get 3 items in order to unlock it. Unfortunately, these items drop from monsters at a low rate, meaning we basically have to grind for porn now. Thanks devs."
That porn you stated has the MC getting raped by monsters which you probably fap to. You stated fiction does matter because there is an attraction. I can think of no greater attraction than fapping to something. Which in turn means your pro rape. Me personally i dont actually believe your pro rape but by your standards you are. Some people already gave good examples with GTA and Guro so i wont divulge anymore. Just know fantasy/fiction is not real and no matter how attracted you are to it its just a bunch of pixels.

2nd argument, "if the character is outright stated to be a child, then I personally believe liking that character makes you a pedophile." Yes you can believe that but your still wrong. For example lets use Kanna from dragon maid again in two scenarios. (Scenario 1) Kanna acts childlike and she goes to school. So its not ok to lewd her because that would make you a pedo, those are your words. (Scenario 2) Kanna acts like an adult and has a job. Now its ok to lewd her? Thats a dumb argument because its still the same loli but she acts differently. She looks the same and has the same build in both scenarios except you say its ok to fap because shes adulting. You cant apply real world logic to fictional content. Loli is not real. Its a cartoon. Stop projecting because your schizophrenic.

Also the lolita book applies to real life which is sick. We are talking about anime lolis.
 
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Ok now I think your purposely misunderstanding what I said.

Ok so I don't know if you know this but age doesn't mean loli but


What your saying is
1) Fiction does matter because theres real attraction.
2) if the character is outright stated to be a child, then I personally believe liking that character makes you a pedophile.

Ok lets tackle argument 1. No fiction does not matter because no matter how many innocent people I kill in red dead redemption it doesnt mean i want to go out and kill real people.
You play spooky milk which has the main character (who looks like a little boy) get raped by monster women in the toy factory. p0y you commented "so from what I can tell, the duke character has a scene that requires you to get 3 items in order to unlock it. Unfortunately, these items drop from monsters at a low rate, meaning we basically have to grind for porn now. Thanks devs."
That porn you stated has the MC getting raped by monsters which you probably fap to. You stated fiction does matter because there is an attraction. I can think of no greater attraction than fapping to something. Which in turn means your pro rape. Me personally i dont actually believe your pro rape but by your standards you are. Some people already gave good examples with GTA and Guro so i wont divulge anymore. Just know fantasy/fiction is not real and no matter how attracted you are to it its just a bunch of pixels.

2nd argument, "if the character is outright stated to be a child, then I personally believe liking that character makes you a pedophile." Yes you can believe that but your still wrong. For example lets use Kanna from dragon maid again in two scenarios. (Scenario 1) Kanna acts childlike and she goes to school. So its not ok to lewd her because that would make you a pedo, those are your words. (Scenario 2) Kanna acts like an adult and has a job. Now its ok to lewd her? Thats a dumb argument because its still the same loli but she acts differently. She looks the same and has the same build in both scenarios except you say its ok to fap because shes adulting. You cant apply real world logic to fictional content. Loli is not real. Its a cartoon. Stop projecting because your schizophrenic.

Also the lolita book applies to real life which is sick. We are talking about anime lolis.


Loli is not real. why do you keep searching for it then? ;<
 
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Thresles

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Does that mean we gotta put people who are into Guro on a watchlist because they get turned on by mutilating the person they wanna fuck?
I mean I would probably put those people on a list, yeah, but I won't claim to speak for everyone.
 

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From. Discord

Hello, I'm sorry to all of you for the inconvenience caused by the recent delay in updates.

One of the main issues we're experiencing is the various bugs that arise as the game grows in size, and the issues that need to be fixed during the build. This has resulted in more time spent testing and debugging than expected.

We are committed to repaying your waiting and understanding. However, we have tried various things, including hiring additional programmers, but the speed of updates has not improved significantly.

I just want to let you know that once a month update like before is practically impossible. In response, lead artist 'Mango' is trying to provide resources in the Spooky Milk Life production stage and then hire a new programmer while waiting for the update build, working together on other projects such as Spooky Where's Willya, Spooky Milk Nightmare, etc. While waiting for the update.

We would like to inform you that 'Mango' is currently having a hard time due to overwork and stress, and we ask for your understanding and support. We will do our best to provide the game as soon as possible with the goal of updating this month of SML. Once again, we apologize for the inconvenience, and thank you for your continued patience.

If you have any questions, please send me a Direct message. I will try my best to answer as sincerely as possible.
 

Minishotgun

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the only meaningful growth seen with the game is in the amount of pointless side characters and meme references.
while i wouldn't mind the meme-characters and other figures based on pop-culture on normal circumstances, i agree that this is a waste of focus, all the side content in the world doesn't matter if we got no story to follow, this would be like playing skyrim and the main story stops around the time you kill your first dragon and discover you are the dragonborn, and then all we got left are side-quests.
 

kineasrm

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Question, how o i "Like", "Thumbs UP" a game? tried liking the OP on the game thread but it only counts on the thread, not the game itself
 

TheDennyGuy

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Question, how o i "Like", "Thumbs UP" a game? tried liking the OP on the game thread but it only counts on the thread, not the game itself
The game is available through Steam too so you can wishlist it, that's the closest thing you can do really.
 

JL438532

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I want to play this game so bad but I the only thing closest to a computer for me is a ChromeOS which can't even run the game, does anyone know how to download this possibly bypassing this system, if possible at all.
 
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