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Well, he wasn't participating in this trade and we are asking him to organize a trade caravan with the risk of losing all of it to bandits. I think his payment is earned.
It just makes no sense to me any way you put. It's not a big deal but Edwin knows you are the hero and yet doesn't seem to really help you at all even after you essentially gift him 3000 golds for getting the invitation to the Greed's Festival, which was in the interest of all Royans.
Plus the caravan remains unscathed and you still gain nothing from him? How is he a good person?

Edit: Also from the dialogue it's not even as it's presented as if you are gifting those to him, it's just something to make the caravan possible...but somehow no one is paying those goods? Strange really
 
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It just makes no sense to me any way you put. It's not a big deal but Edwin knows you are the hero and yet doesn't seem to really help you at all even after you essentially gift him 3000 golds for getting the invitation to the Greed's Festival, which was in the interest of all Royans.
Plus the caravan remains unscathed and you still gain nothing from him? How is he a good person?

Edit: Also from the dialogue it's not even as it's presented as if you are gifting those to him, it's just something to make the caravan possible...but somehow no one is paying those goods? Strange really
He had no plans on sending caravan and organizing it requires a lot of effort and skills. Also even if you protected caravan it doesn't remove risks when he was sending it. And risks are usually increase payment even if everything turned alright.

Look at this situation from his viewpoint. A hero wants to catch some very powerful bandit that defeated many guards and asks to create caravan to use it as a bait. Why should he do it for free, when he would lose a lot of money if she lose?
 
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He had no plans on sending caravan and organizing it requires a lot of effort and skills. Also even if you protected caravan it doesn't remove risks when he was sending it. And risks are usually increase payment even if everything turned alright.

Look at this situation from his viewpoint. A hero wants to catch some very powerful bandit that defeated many guards and asks to create caravan to use it as a bait. Why should he do it for free, when he would lose a lot of money if she lose?
But the thing is Edwin wants to help Aura and he doesn't even say it's payment, he literally just lacks the resources to send to Verdaux. There is no reason for him to ask for a 100% share payment and in fact he doesn't.

So as far as I'm concerned, we just gifted almost 4000 golds worth of materials for free to someone for a quest that gives 1800 golds, this makes no sense. At least for quests like Save the Crops you can just say it's down to Aura wanting to help people, here it's down to... well it seems a plot hole to me.
 
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But the thing is Edwin wants to help Aura and he doesn't even say it's payment, he literally just lacks the resources to send to Verdaux. There is no reason for him to ask for a 100% share payment and in fact he doesn't.

So as far as I'm concerned, we just gifted almost 4000 golds worth of materials for free to someone for a quest that gives 1800 golds, this makes no sense. At least for quests like Save the Crops you can just say it's down to Aura wanting to help people, here it's down to... well it seems a plot hole to me.
Bro you are really looking way too much into the whole "donate 3 jelly to proceed with quest" thing. Also Edwin gives you 3k gold after your 2k investment if you use Herman to get into the festival, a 50% return on an investment after a month or so is insanely generous, GL beating that IRL.
 
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But the thing is Edwin wants to help Aura and he doesn't even say it's payment, he literally just lacks the resources to send to Verdaux. There is no reason for him to ask for a 100% share payment and in fact he doesn't.

So as far as I'm concerned, we just gifted almost 4000 golds worth of materials for free to someone for a quest that gives 1800 golds, this makes no sense. At least for quests like Save the Crops you can just say it's down to Aura wanting to help people, here it's down to... well it seems a plot hole to me.
Cut him some slack. Edwin is still merchant from Trademond and looks for profit. And unlike some other merchants he never even suggests a sexual way of payment.

Also, there is something wrong in your calculations. Jelly Jams' value is 500. You could sell one of it for 250. It's definitely not almost 4000 for 3 Jelly Jams.
 
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Cut him some slack. Edwin is still merchant from Trademond and looks for profit. And unlike some other merchants he never even suggests a sexual way of payment.

Also, there is something wrong in your calculations. Jelly Jams' value is 500. You could sell one of it for 250. It's definitely not almost 4000 for 3 Jelly Jams.
Ah, I was using the 1300 buy price in Nephlune
 
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Regarding the caravan quest, you can join it for free if you join the Magic Academy. You'll probably want to do that anyway one way or another, so no reason to pay Edwin.
 
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How much money can you realistically make back from teaching magic at Pasciel and is it even worth it?
You can get 800 gold for each rank of rock armor and lightning sword you have after paying an additional 500g fee. So theoretically 2700g over 4 days if you have both spells maxed.

Pasciel is the only way to get stuff like Stone Mind II, rank II water skin and Splash (makes firestorm much easier, which has a 14000g reward at the end of it), Fire II and III, brittle II, Earth Slime, upgrading your slime summon further, the clockwork forest book, pacify II and more.
 
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Pasciel is the only way to get stuff like Stone Mind II, rank II water skin and Splash (makes firestorm much easier, which has a 14000g reward at the end of it), Fire II and III, brittle II, Earth Slime, upgrading your slime summon further, the clockwork forest book, pacify II and more.
I will correct you a little. Charlotte could learn and then teach Fire II, but she needs levels for that. So Pasciel is the only way to get Fire II without waiting.
 
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Regarding the caravan quest, you can join it for free if you join the Magic Academy. You'll probably want to do that anyway one way or another, so no reason to pay Edwin.
Yeah I went there with difficulty by selling stuff. This is a proper ng run on normal but I'm likely resetting at around 80 bosses done because it has slowed down lately.
While most places are doable with prior knowledge and knowing which skill to learn, the demonic generals other than Mammon remain pretty though even before day 100
 
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You can get 800 gold for each rank of rock armor and lightning sword you have after paying an additional 500g fee. So theoretically 2700g over 4 days if you have both spells maxed.

Pasciel is the only way to get stuff like Stone Mind II, rank II water skin and Splash (makes firestorm much easier, which has a 14000g reward at the end of it), Fire II and III, brittle II, Earth Slime, upgrading your slime summon further, the clockwork forest book, pacify II and more.
How do you properly navigate the volcano region? I used waterskin but it still felt way too hard in my story mode run, I consumated so many blessed apples and lumerian bread...

Edit: I guess Water Skin II with 80 MDEF should be enough? I think I went with Water Skin I and 60 MDEF in my run
 
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I passed the final check doing this route by using emerald tea to get my willpower to max. But I didn't get all the bonuses, so I'm not sure if it's possible to lock it even when at max will.
How? The option to overcome the brainwashing is locked out even when willpower is maxed. I even edited the lewdness value to 0. The option is still locked out. I don't know how you're supposed to be able to overcome the brainwashing in this route. Is it because my willpower got premanently reduced to 97 instead of 100? Is 100 willpower the only way to overcome it?
 
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How? The option to overcome the brainwashing is locked out even when willpower is maxed. I even edited the lewdness value to 0. The option is still locked out. I don't know how you're supposed to be able to overcome the brainwashing in this route. Is it because my willpower got premanently reduced to 97 instead of 100? Is 100 willpower the only way to overcome it?
Could you look at collected Perversions? It's not just about willpower, it's also about modificators to it. And if you had resisted Arwin during final brainwashing scenes than it wouldn't be as bad. But giving up to Arwin during brainwashing makes a situation much worse.
 

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How do you properly navigate the volcano region? I used waterskin but it still felt way too hard in my story mode run, I consumated so many blessed apples and lumerian bread...

Edit: I guess Water Skin II with 80 MDEF should be enough? I think I went with Water Skin I and 60 MDEF in my run
Water Skin II, yeah.

As for MDef, I don't remember what's exactly enough, but you could always use lascivious coating drug if you needed more.
 
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