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I'm just starting to learn/understand the coding...lol
I likely misread. I saw NTS Option6=false. I didn't see an NTS trigger for option 6. I just saw option6=true for "admit".

I saw option6=false skipped that Vika conversation.
I went back and replayed the paths accordingly, then made the choice "guide" based on where each of those ended up.

I have 8 paths right now...at least I think I do...lol
4 main paths:
Loyal: what appears to be obvious choices, and it's the only path that ends with nothing really happening at the spa.
NTS: don't admit, can pick all the other obvious choices, plays out like you'd expect, minus that convo.
NTR/willing cuckold: admit, pick the obvious
Cheating: admit, pick all the obvious "loyal" choices, you get the "cliffhanger" spa ending...
Then 4 variants of those, don't change the password to the security cameras, i think that's going to come into play eventually...lol

I didn't see the NTR path tripped to on by asking to put on more clothes, that's interesting and could trip people up if there's a "loyal" path. However, on the loyal paths I'm playing, that choice plays out like you'd expect a "loyal" path to play out, with nothing happening at the spa and Julia appearing to "end" it... Now, the cheating and cuckold paths I'm playing, with option6=true, then asking her to put on more clothes, yeah, the NTR tag makes sense. So, will have to wait and see, or until I understand the coding better...:ROFLMAO:

Like you said, until we have the entire story to see how it all plays out, tough to tell for sure, and the dev can make changes as necessary.
I do wish the paths were more clear and concrete though. If that NTR=true clothes choice plays out with option6=false and picking all the other obvious "loyal" choices, that's a kick in the balls for the loyal path...:ROFLMAO:

The seep through isn't too bad. The Vika convos are the ones that were tripping me up. But made a little more sense after seeing (or thinking) NTS route is tied to option6=false... :ROFLMAO: Just gonna have to let this one play out to know for sure...
I don't understand. How is NTR and willing cuckold the same? Isn't willing cuckold part of NTS?
 
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I don't understand. How is NTR and willing cuckold the same? Isn't willing cuckold part of NTS?
Probably. I'm tired and was typing fast...lol
I've seen so many variations of the definitions, usage, and was trying to avoid "debates" while distinguishing...lol

NTR is obviously cheating, which is also called cuckolding.
Cuckolding can either be the willing fetish, or actual cheating. One part of the willing cuckold fetish is the humiliation, so it's NTR"ish", which is generally why I use NTR/willing cuckold, to distinguish the humiliation fetish cuckolding vs. the hotwife/stag vixen brand of cuckolding, which I generally agree with you is netorase/NTS.
I've seen people use NTS more to mean sharing/swinging/hotwife (stag/vixen or cuckolding without the humiliation) and NTR as cheating & cuckold fetish w/humiliation.

I'm not trying to redefine anything, write a thesis, or argue...:ROFLMAO: Just distinguishing the level of cuckolding fetish and the tone the conversation has in the story.
 
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depends on who you ask - different people might group the themes differently. I'd think of in both "willing cuckold" and "ntr" as having a style where the wife/gf basically treats him like shit, so they're more similar in my mind.
I have tried researching about ntr in general in the past and I first saw simple classifications. But if you go deep enough you come upon more than a dozen classifications, each targeting a niche. Like a willing cuckold can have a good relationship with his girl or a bad one like you said. There were more even within nts but I don't remember all of them.

This is good though. authors can experiment with different variants of ntr instead of always sticking to the meta.
 
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Probably. I'm tired and was typing fast...lol
I've seen so many variations of the definitions, usage, and was trying to avoid "debates" while distinguishing...lol

NTR is obviously cheating, which is also called cuckolding.
Cuckolding can either be the willing fetish, or actual cheating. One part of the willing cuckold fetish is the humiliation, so it's NTR"ish", which is generally why I use NTR/willing cuckold, to distinguish the humiliation fetish cuckolding vs. the hotwife/stag vixen brand of cuckolding, which I generally agree with you is netorase/NTS.
I've seen people use NTS more to mean sharing/swinging/hotwife (stag/vixen or cuckolding without the humiliation) and NTR as cheating & cuckold fetish w/humiliation.

I'm not trying to redefine anything, write a thesis, or argue...:ROFLMAO: Just distinguishing the level of cuckolding fetish and the tone the conversation has in the story.
One correction: NTR does not have to include cuckolding, as NTR is a genre focused on the emotional betrayal of MC's partner. The SO is cheating behind MC's back, but that does not mean that she denies MC sex either - especially at the beginning stages of NTR, the wife is usually struggling with her loyalty & love to her husband, and the building lust & desire towards her NTR lover.

Cuckolding does not really belong in NTR, as that would mean that MC is aware of the cheating & "condones" it.
 
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One correction: NTR does not have to include cuckolding, as NTR is a genre focused on the emotional betrayal of MC's partner. The SO is cheating behind MC's back, but that does not mean that she denies MC sex either - especially at the beginning stages of NTR, the wife is usually struggling with her loyalty & love to her husband, and the building lust & desire towards her NTR lover.

Cuckolding does not really belong in NTR, as that would mean that MC is aware of the cheating & "condones" it.
Precisely why I was confused but ig its fine as long as dev shows what each path contains because they might have a slightly different idea of ntr.
 

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Sir.. you just made yourself look stupid.
I'm confused, guys. How is this incorrect? First, Johnny scoffing at "NTR does not have to include cuckolding" -- isn't that definitionally true? You can have cheating/NTR without the MC/boyfriend/husband watching her do it. Second, Dan saying "Cuckolding does not really belong in NTR, as that would mean that MC is aware of the cheating & 'condones' it." makes the guy look stupid, that doesn't make sense to me either -- are there forms of cuckhold where the MC/boyfriend/husband is physically present, watching the LI have sex with other men, where he doesn't consent to it and is, like, miserable or something, to the extent that it's cheating? I'm trying to understand the both of your responses as I was surprised when I saw them -- maybe I'm just an idiot, but I'd appreciate help understanding!
 

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I'm confused, guys. How is this incorrect? First, Johnny scoffing at "NTR does not have to include cuckolding" -- isn't that definitionally true? You can have cheating/NTR without the MC/boyfriend/husband watching her do it. Second, Dan saying "Cuckolding does not really belong in NTR, as that would mean that MC is aware of the cheating & 'condones' it." makes the guy look stupid, that doesn't make sense to me either -- are there forms of cuckhold where the MC/boyfriend/husband is physically present, watching the LI have sex with other men, where he doesn't consent to it and is, like, miserable or something, to the extent that it's cheating? I'm trying to understand the both of your responses as I was surprised when I saw them -- maybe I'm just an idiot, but I'd appreciate help understanding!
I'll keep it short lest this devolve into an ntr definitions debate ripe for deletion. Two things going on here (for me personally) -
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I'm confused, guys. How is this incorrect? First, Johnny scoffing at "NTR does not have to include cuckolding" -- isn't that definitionally true? You can have cheating/NTR without the MC/boyfriend/husband watching her do it. Second, Dan saying "Cuckolding does not really belong in NTR, as that would mean that MC is aware of the cheating & 'condones' it." makes the guy look stupid, that doesn't make sense to me either -- are there forms of cuckhold where the MC/boyfriend/husband is physically present, watching the LI have sex with other men, where he doesn't consent to it and is, like, miserable or something, to the extent that it's cheating? I'm trying to understand the both of your responses as I was surprised when I saw them -- maybe I'm just an idiot, but I'd appreciate help understanding!
This is why I think of it in simple terms without thinking too much about it. NTS involves sharing of wife willingly (no need to ponder deep about what kind of sharing. Just think of it like that.) NTR involves cheating which would piss of the dude if he knew. netori is when you steal other girls. Its when you dig deeper that confusions arise.
 

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I'm confused, guys. How is this incorrect? First, Johnny scoffing at "NTR does not have to include cuckolding" -- isn't that definitionally true? You can have cheating/NTR without the MC/boyfriend/husband watching her do it. Second, Dan saying "Cuckolding does not really belong in NTR, as that would mean that MC is aware of the cheating & 'condones' it." makes the guy look stupid, that doesn't make sense to me either -- are there forms of cuckhold where the MC/boyfriend/husband is physically present, watching the LI have sex with other men, where he doesn't consent to it and is, like, miserable or something, to the extent that it's cheating? I'm trying to understand the both of your responses as I was surprised when I saw them -- maybe I'm just an idiot, but I'd appreciate help understanding!
"NTR" is a term that originates from Japanese adult video games and stands for "Netorare," which can be translated to "cuckold" in English''

So the guy saying Cuckolding doesn't belong in NTR is stupid when the literal term for NTR is cuckold.
 
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Who is taking this picture ? In the others her hand is obscure simulating a selfie... this one is a No.... Someone is taking it.
 
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Who is taking this picture ? In the others her hand is obscure simulating a selfie... this one is a No.... Someone is taking it.
She's at her own home, so it could easily be a tripod with a timer or a remote.
What annoys me is when the photo is somewhat spontaneous or the girl is somewhere she clearly wouldn't be able to set this equipment. Hahaha
 

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it the tail end of a party... do not think she would set up a tri pod... Just saying.. it is interesting.... We'll see what the next release brings.... soon I hope.
 
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