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sharing does not imply participation...if i loan my ps5 to someone for a few days I'm not participating, but i'm absolutely sharing.
This while it's not a common playstyle for these games ( I think). I actually don't like it when my MC has sex with other women that isn't his wife and if it's a swinging scene I rather have my MC not participate at all and just watch. Now if it's a MMF that might one of the times I like my MC to partake especially if it's a DP scene. But just the act of being okay with her having sex with other men implies sharing
 
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This while it's not a common playstyle for these games ( I think). I actually don't like it when my MC has sex with other women that isn't his wife and if it's a swinging scene I rather have my MC not participate at all and just watch. Now if it's a MMF that might one of the times I like my MC to partake especially if it's a DP scene.
you do you sir...as long as it's consensual and not forced it's NTS and i can work with it...i do like my mc involved though...either in MMF, MFF, and MMFF. but i like it when they watch at times too. I knew going in that i wasn't going to get MC involved though...at least not for a while if/when he comes home.
 
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you do you sir...as long as it's consensual and not forced it's NTS and i can work with it...i do like my mc involved though...either in MMF, MFF, and MMFF. but i like it when they watch at times too. I knew going in that i wasn't going to get MC involved though...at least not for a while if/when he comes home.
Yeah tbh it depends on the context for me when I want my MC involved or not usually most of the time when it's a MMF depending on the build and context ( only with the wife tho ) I just generally dislike swinging in a NTS game or path.
 
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Yeah tbh it depends on the context for me when I want my MC involved or not usually most of the time when it's a MMF depending on the build and context ( only with the wife tho ) I just generally dislike swinging in a NTS game or path.
I like swinging in NTS games, but i like it to be together, in the same room, preferably right next to each other. you can talk to her, kiss her, tell her you love her, etc. You can throw in a DP on one of the girls while the other rests or watches or whatever. Then switch to the other girl while the first one rests...etc. It's fun. I don't really dislike it if they're completely seperate sometimes, but most of them should be shared experiences. But this isn't gonna be in a phone game so i'm not expecting this here...just stating my NTS preferences.
 

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Yup. The NTR path is making less sense as updates go by, since the husband at this point has clear evidence that his wife is unfaithful - yet does nothing about it.

There is no internal monologue from the MC debating on how to go about his marriage after 0.8, instead we get "Morning beautiful" as if he didn't see her get railed by some other dude the night before.

Really feels like the NTR path got tacked onto what was meant to be a pure NTS experience, which is why I unsubbed.
I don't think that's correct - i don't mean your complaints about ntr content aren't valid; but I mean the sharing content has its own slew of issues; as evidenced by many posters discussing it on the prior page.

While it may feel bizzare to have these ntr-ish scenes then mc shows no reaction in dialogue, it's equally bizarre for them to be on a full sharing path, having talked about their fantasies, then she's still sneaking off to bang Markus and mc is watching like a peeping tom, unbeknownst to both of them.

It makes no sense, especially after there was the scene where Julia sets out her phone for MC to watch the BJ - that was very on-brand for nts/sharing; she enjoys doing things and having him watch. The bulk of the scenes afterwards though play more like a random wife just getting her jolllies elsewhere, with no real consideration for whether her husband is watching/encouraging/whatever.
I like swinging in NTS games, but i like it to be together, in the same room, preferably right next to each other. you can talk to her, kiss her, tell her you love her, etc. You can throw in a DP on one of the girls while the other rests or watches or whatever. It's fun. I don't really dislike it if they're completely seperate sometimes, but most of them should be shared experiences.
Yeah while I like the in person setups - especially of the swinging variety! (I don't understand why Dessolos is opposed to these - I think of voyeurism and watching as being an inherent part of this kind of experience, you dont HAVE to fuck someone else, you can just chill and watch with the other party, or whatever you please) - I think the remote things are fine as long as it's done in a context that focuses on the couple. Like "I'm gonna go bang this guy because you want me to then videotape it and tell you all about it" versus the wife just pretty much doing her own thing and the husband witnessing it as an afterthought.

Seems like more and more this game is skewing towards the latter which I'm no fan of.
 
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you can just chill and watch with the other party, or whatever you please)
That's the only time I like it tbh. I rather just watch and not participate very few games ive played with swinging gives that option which is why im not a fan of swinging very much. idk for me When I play a sharing game it's all about the wife and not about the MC. So because of that I don't care if my MC gets action other than from his wife. So I just want to focus on the wife and have her get all the pleasure. Which is why my ideal swinging scene is the MC watching the wife have fun with another couple instead of having sex with the other guys wife.

Now in a non NTR / NTS focused games I wouldn't be against a sharing scene with my MC getting some action.
 
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Pr0GamerJohnny

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That's the only time I like it tbh. I rather just watch and not participate very few games ive played with swinging gives that option which is why im not a fan of swinging very much. idk for me When I play a sharing game it's all about the wife and not about the MC. So because of that I don't care if my MC gets action other than from his wife. So I just want to focus on the wife and have her get all the pleasure. Which is why my ideal swinging scene is the MC watching the wife have fun with another couple instead of having sex with the other guys wife.

Now in a non NTR / NTS focused games I wouldn't be against a sharing scene with my MC getting some action.
oh yeah that's because games suck and have scant offers - but i think of what I described as VERY common in the real world; part and parcel of swinging.
 

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sharing does not imply participation...if i loan my ps5 to someone for a few days I'm not participating, but i'm absolutely sharing. Swinging however....that DOES require participation....and that is tagged here BTW and there isn't any of it.
You do understand that comparing a woman to a things is so... incorrect that it makes my eyes bleed. Well, like, people have different attitudes towards things/objects and their sexual partner on a subconscious level. Normal people. Well, okay, maybe I don't understand modern SUBcurrents.

it's quite easy to do an NTS phone game in the correct way. She's always keeping him in the loop, always sharing pics and videos, never hiding things, always asks permission and if he has a problem she shuts it down until he's ready. In this game she's just doing shit and he's either ok with it or he's not. This game is just NTR with permission. But I'm not gonna keep bitching here, it is what it is and i'm sure the dev is gonna do what he wants so it's w/e.
You are looking at game through your own lens. You think that a woman should be compliant/submissive by default. No, it is not always so and she does not have to. Further down the list, right away, if the partner agrees, it is the same NTS, when both are somehow happy with what is happening.

God, how much the Japanese have complicated everyone's life by creating a bunch of such terms with a difference of one letter. I will soon become a classic grandfather in whose youth everything was much simpler and people didn’t do bullshit.

If you have any suggestions for improving text (and not stuffing it with your vision), just leave your suggestions on her patreon. In a proper form.
 
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I was just coming here to comment that the NTR route (where you don't encourage her) is so empty compared to the NTS sharing route) which is a total bummer because its already worked into the game and NTR would be my favorite genre. I wish the NTR route was exactly the same as the NTS route you (as the husband) are just unaware of her cheating. Maybe the dev is intending the NTR route to have actual cheating too but it just moves WAY slower? im not sure. Either way I still love this game even if the NTS is not my jam exactly.
 

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You do understand that comparing a woman to a things is so... incorrect that it makes my eyes bleed. Well, like, people have different attitudes towards things/objects and their sexual partner on a subconscious level. Normal people. Well, okay, maybe I don't understand modern SUBcurrents.


You are looking at game through your own lens. You think that a woman should be compliant/submissive by default. No, it is not always so and she does not have to. Further down the list, right away, if the partner agrees, it is the same NTS, when both are somehow happy with what is happening.

God, how much the Japanese have complicated everyone's life by creating a bunch of such terms with a difference of one letter. I will soon become a classic grandfather in whose youth everything was much simpler and people didn’t do bullshit.

If you have any suggestions for improving text (and not stuffing it with your vision), just leave your suggestions on her patreon. In a proper form.
NO, I didn't say she had to be submissive...I would expect the same courtesy from him if/when he went out and hooked up. Relationships are built on trust, swinging relationships EVEN MORE SO, and if she's just doing whatever she wants without giving a shit how he feels then its not NTS, It's not Sharing, and it's not swinging.
 
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Filipis

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I was just coming here to comment that the NTR route (where you don't encourage her) is so empty compared to the NTS sharing route) which is a total bummer because its already worked into the game and NTR would be my favorite genre. I wish the NTR route was exactly the same as the NTS route you (as the husband) are just unaware of her cheating. Maybe the dev is intending the NTR route to have actual cheating too but it just moves WAY slower? im not sure. Either way I still love this game even if the NTS is not my jam exactly.
The NTR route already contains actual cheating from the wife. And the nature of NTR/Cheating - in this specific format of an AVN - means you generally get to see less action than NTS/Sharing. That part is honestly fine here.

The problem is that there is almost no unique dialogue from the MC when he finds out his wife is cheating on him. Not even a simple "I'm gonna record this bitch to see how many times she cheats on me so I can get everything in the divorce and she's left with nothing" to explain his passivity, but no.
 

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I don't think that's correct - i don't mean your complaints about ntr content aren't valid; but I mean the sharing content has its own slew of issues; as evidenced by many posters discussing it on the prior page.

While it may feel bizzare to have these ntr-ish scenes then mc shows no reaction in dialogue, it's equally bizarre for them to be on a full sharing path, having talked about their fantasies, then she's still sneaking off to bang Markus and mc is watching like a peeping tom, unbeknownst to both of them.

It makes no sense, especially after there was the scene where Julia sets out her phone for MC to watch the BJ - that was very on-brand for nts/sharing; she enjoys doing things and having him watch. The bulk of the scenes afterwards though play more like a random wife just getting her jolllies elsewhere, with no real consideration for whether her husband is watching/encouraging/whatever.

Yeah while I like the in person setups - especially of the swinging variety! (I don't understand why Dessolos is opposed to these - I think of voyeurism and watching as being an inherent part of this kind of experience, you dont HAVE to fuck someone else, you can just chill and watch with the other party, or whatever you please) - I think the remote things are fine as long as it's done in a context that focuses on the couple. Like "I'm gonna go bang this guy because you want me to then videotape it and tell you all about it" versus the wife just pretty much doing her own thing and the husband witnessing it as an afterthought.

Seems like more and more this game is skewing towards the latter which I'm no fan of.
I can see that.

It seems the NTR path suffers from not delving deeper into the signature marks of NTR (jealousy, emotional crisis,...), while the NTS path is far too similar to NTR path in terms of execution and doesn't contain any hallmarks of sharing (confirmations, permissions, boundaries...)

I'd say both of these are symptoms of the 1-month development cycle. The dev would need to take more time to make more "unique" scenarios for each of the paths.
 
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I have played for the first time this game yesterday , but i only played faitfull path and sharing/ chochold path . How do i play cheating path ? Can some one tell me what i need to do to play the cheating path ? TY
 

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I have played for the first time this game yesterday , but i only played faitfull path and sharing/ chochold path . How do i play cheating path ? Can some one tell me what i need to do to play the cheating path ? TY
So I only know the cheating path where you catch her and confront her , I don't know if there's one where she does and you don't see it or if she cheats and you don't confront her it's a bit of a loaded topic at the moment
 

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Played this game the first time today. Felt more like a kinetic novel than a visual novel. That NTR "path" is hastily stiched on to avoid the kinetic tag. Also would be nice if these phone emulating games got their own tag so they could filtered out in searches.
 
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this feels weird...
I End the call.
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Tell Markus I don't get it...
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then watch the wife have sex with Markus

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So I was predisposed to the possibility of confrontation with the wife, but it was a normal dialogue. It's super weird from the perspective of a husband who discovers he's being cheated on.
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What a loss of immersion in the story, I hope they fix it.
How do i got end call or dont hang up option in first image?
 
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