VN Ren'Py Completed Stay Online [v1.0] [LadyLana]

[TonyMurray]

Hello everyone,
Can someone please tell me briefly how many episodes there are in total?
Thanks!

9 or 10. I forgot

The completed game is 11 episodes (the version numbers don't correlate to episode numbers, as there were 0.9 and 0.95, for instance).

 

[reidanota]

Best explanation for NTR and NTS I've ever heard.

I won't argue, it's clear as day and night. I'd like for there to be an equally clear distinction between sharing and cucking, to me the latter, though nominally NTS, is closer to NTR than sharing. I'm disappointed that a majority of sharing/swinging games present the MC as a passive "receiver", one who enjoys what he's given and shows no interest or even the ability to influence the course of things. That's what I've seen some call "taking the back seat". It may seem like a minor detail to others, but to me a passive MC is more defining of a genre even than whatever the FLI does - there's all sorts of "types" of NTR according to how the FLI sees it, but nobody cares about distinguishing how the MC deals with it, as the assumption is that the girl won't cheat if the MC isn't a loser to begin with. It's the old alpha/beta trope in the back of the writer's mind, even if it's not explicitly written in.

I'd risk that I'd be less likely to enjoy a "normal cuckold" story, where the MC consensually lets the wife do whatever she wants and just enjoys it passively, than one where the wife/girlfriend actually cheats, thinking she or the "bull" have control, but the MC unfalteringly turns the tables and pushes the rival out of the picture, winning back her loyalty - even if they agree on further sharing. It's all about the MC being both confident and active.

 

[LonerPrime]

A cool game, but loses impact for me due to the forced portrait mode. Not really implying it shouldn't have been that way. It makes sense and I understand the game is mostly a messenger back and forth with surveillance cam cut ins. But it still feels jarring to play on a PC.

Still, good stuff overall.

 

[LordUlrich]

I won't argue, it's clear as day and night. I'd like for there to be an equally clear distinction between sharing and cucking, to me the latter, though nominally NTS, is closer to NTR than sharing. I'm disappointed that a majority of sharing/swinging games present the MC as a passive "receiver", one who enjoys what he's given and shows no interest or even the ability to influence the course of things. That's what I've seen some call "taking the back seat". It may seem like a minor detail to others, but to me a passive MC is more defining of a genre even than whatever the FLI does - there's all sorts of "types" of NTR according to how the FLI sees it, but nobody cares about distinguishing how the MC deals with it, as the assumption is that the girl won't cheat if the MC isn't a loser to begin with. It's the old alpha/beta trope in the back of the writer's mind, even if it's not explicitly written in.

I'd risk that I'd be less likely to enjoy a "normal cuckold" story, where the MC consensually lets the wife do whatever she wants and just enjoys it passively, than one where the wife/girlfriend actually cheats, thinking she or the "bull" have control, but the MC unfalteringly turns the tables and pushes the rival out of the picture, winning back her loyalty - even if they agree on further sharing. It's all about the MC being both confident and active.

I hear that. Sadly most NTR stories are all about singular loss of the loser MC. I think I've seen one NTR game were at the end the MC takes back control by killing both the GF and her Bull. I've seen one where the MC steals a girl and manages to keep his gf as well. Sadly most authors write the cuck as the worst sexual partner with a dead end over working job and nothing to show for it but a hot girlfriend/wife. The cuck is a passive guy that at times gives his girl away (literally at times) and never steps up or does anything about it. Not to mention the authors always, and I mean always, gives the cuck a super small penis but the bull an over the top, stupidly huge penis.

Now I do enjoy a well written NTR story, but it's almost to the point authors are scared to expand on it. Give me an NTR were the MC finds out about the cheating and fucks them over. Give me a story were the MC doesn't just give up his girl and actually tries to win her back. Netorare is about a person having their partner stolen or seduced through sexual encounters and focuses on the feeling of betrayal or loss by that cheating individual. An MC should be able to feel that loss but also be able to fight back, without the author forcing the MC into a constant lose-lose situation. It's a much more enjoyable NTR game when the MC isn't such a pathetic character and actually reacts like a human when learning of their cheating partner.

 

[reidanota]

It's a much more enjoyable NTR game when the MC isn't such a pathetic character and actually reacts like a human when learning of their cheating partner.

I've come across this notion in discussions and people often reply that no, they don't want the MC to win her back, she cheated, she's done, any "winning back" or forgiveness is a further sign of weakness. It's mind boggling how that running away isn't seen as weakness itself. Then, people talk about NTR as a consequence, that it needs a trigger - hence the flawed MC, however those flaws manifest. I think it's all bullshit, bad writers (but, most of the time, bad commenters) talking about putting together a story using common tropes and binary logic, because they lack the imagination for coming up with something original.

But I don't play NTR; so, what would I know? I can't understand the appeal of experiencing the "feeling of betrayal or loss" (sorry to borrow your own words), or the dread of suspecting it's happening. And I really don't like when NTS games include that, sometimes justified as in order to allow for branching out to NTR. An underconfident MC is already akin to NTR, as I tried to put it, regardless of whether he gets his LI stolen, or accepts to be a cuckold passenger in her (or the bull's) power trip. It's all masochism (or sadism, if the player identifies rather with the LI, or the bull, and enjoys the story from a bully's perspective).

But I do agree with you that it might be ok if the MC reacted differently - NTR might work for me, but I'm only up for a very narrow scope of MC reactions. It has to be a MC so confident they never even worry that the outcome of cheating could be his loss or defeat. Cruel or violent revenge don't appeal to me. He'd play things with cool confidence, so that in the end, his LI would come to despise the bull - not really NTR, in fact, which is why it never happens. You might say this would be a superhuman MC, and I'd argue that I prefer some fantasy and heroism in my characters than predictability, the pretence of realism or the affirmation of socially accepted tropes.

 

[kombatchieftan]

I hear that. Sadly most NTR stories are all about singular loss of the loser MC. I think I've seen one NTR game were at the end the MC takes back control by killing both the GF and her Bull. I've seen one where the MC steals a girl and manages to keep his gf as well. Sadly most authors write the cuck as the worst sexual partner with a dead end over working job and nothing to show for it but a hot girlfriend/wife. The cuck is a passive guy that at times gives his girl away (literally at times) and never steps up or does anything about it. Not to mention the authors always, and I mean always, gives the cuck a super small penis but the bull an over the top, stupidly huge penis.

Now I do enjoy a well written NTR story, but it's almost to the point authors are scared to expand on it. Give me an NTR were the MC finds out about the cheating and fucks them over. Give me a story were the MC doesn't just give up his girl and actually tries to win her back. Netorare is about a person having their partner stolen or seduced through sexual encounters and focuses on the feeling of betrayal or loss by that cheating individual. An MC should be able to feel that loss but also be able to fight back, without the author forcing the MC into a constant lose-lose situation. It's a much more enjoyable NTR game when the MC isn't such a pathetic character and actually reacts like a human when learning of their cheating partner.

I like this perspective. In addition to the opportunity of winning her back, I would also enjoy the opportunity to burn her or at least move on. I totally agree with the last sentence: Normal human responses would be incredible.

I would term this "agency". Give the MC a choice.

 

[Back]

Played this quite a while ago during active development, and admittedly I haven't revisited it since. This game kinda blurred itself with other phone games for me at time I was trying it. Can't recall too much about it, tbh, but thought the use of cameras as a gameplay and plot device were interesting. Didn't really care for the characters and none were memorable except for Marcus and only because I really didn't enjoy reading about the guy. With the game now complete are players able to kick Marcus to the curb or avoid other unscrupulous characters without totally derailing the story? Is that at all possible?

Not trying to be a downer as I was just curious if players have any real agency in the game to be able to pick meaningful choices (for both the MMC and FMC) that doesn't prematurely end the story if they avoid certain characters, routes, or odd plot lines. In any event, I applaud the dev, Lady Lana, for being able to wrap up their project and complete the game. Some folks jump right into development and will never reach such a milestone. It's an achievement and got to give credit where credit is due. Anyway, hope most everyone else enjoyed the game. Cheers y'all!

 

[Filipis]

Played this quite a while ago during active development, and admittedly I haven't revisited it since. This game kinda blurred itself with other phone games for me at time I was trying it. Can't recall too much about it, tbh, but thought the use of cameras as a gameplay and plot device were interesting. Didn't really care for the characters and none were memorable except for Marcus and only because I really didn't enjoy reading about the guy. With the game now complete are players able to kick Marcus to the curb or avoid other unscrupulous characters without totally derailing the story? Is that at all possible?

Not trying to be a downer as I was just curious if players have any real agency in the game to be able to pick meaningful choices (for both the MMC and FMC) that doesn't prematurely end the story if they avoid certain characters, routes, or odd plot lines. In any event, I applaud the dev, Lady Lana, for being able to wrap up their project and complete the game. Some folks jump right into development and will never reach such a milestone. It's an achievement and got to give credit where credit is due. Anyway, hope most everyone else enjoyed the game. Cheers y'all!

No, the main NTS/NTR bull is Marcus. The only avoidable partner for Julia is Marcus' friend, but unless you're on the faithful path (why?), Marcus is unavoidable.

There is a Game Over choice earlier in the game (on the NTR path) - if you confront the wife immediately after you catch her cheating, it ends the game. However, the only real alternative is to either tell her you liked it (puts you on the NTS path), or say nothing and play through what has to be the weakest depiction of an "NTR" path I've ever seen.

 

[Back]

No, the main NTS/NTR bull is Marcus. The only avoidable partner for Julia is Marcus' friend, but unless you're on the faithful path (why?), Marcus is unavoidable.

There is a Game Over choice earlier in the game (on the NTR path) - if you confront the wife immediately after you catch her cheating, it ends the game. However, the only real alternative is to either tell her you liked it (puts you on the NTS path), or say nothing and play through what has to be the weakest depiction of an "NTR" path I've ever seen.

Thanks for the informative response. I feared that would be the case for much of this game as stated in your answers. In any event, here's an updoot for you in appreciation. Cheers!

 

[Return_To_Monke]

Oh wow, I had no idea she released a new game while I was away.

 

[Toddy.Berlin]

Unfortunately, the game lost me a bit starting with episode 8.
Julia just lets anyone fuck her, and her husband... a loser with a to small penis, of course... is just a supporting role.
But all in all, it was quite nice. Thanks to the developer.

 

[Gerson876]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN "COMPLETED"!!!!! I thought we were just getting started.

Just when I thought this game is gonna be amazing in future, dude just shut it off.

 

[SupppDude]

The case is i REALLY liked this game. What is a pity (IMO), most of games, NTR means "NTS but with less content" (not counting those that they directly merge both topics).

Do you know any game with actually good NTR?

For example those where player can change between Her/His point of view ("Exploring big apple" was one of those? Dont remmember).

For example "Couples Duet" almost achieve it (but it gets weird when absurdly huge dicks comes into play". (no point of view changeable)

"My italian slut wife" is so cool, with sound and stuff, but at the end, its NTS.

Any guidance, please??

 

[guard123]

The case is i REALLY liked this game. What is a pity (IMO), most of games, NTR means "NTS but with less content" (not counting those that they directly merge both topics).

Do you know any game with actually good NTR?

For example those where player can change between Her/His point of view ("Exploring big apple" was one of those? Dont remmember).

For example "Couples Duet" almost achieve it (but it gets weird when absurdly huge dicks comes into play". (no point of view changeable)

"My italian slut wife" is so cool, with sound and stuff, but at the end, its NTS.

Any guidance, please??

same, i would like to know

 

[What'sNew]

The case is i REALLY liked this game. What is a pity (IMO), most of games, NTR means "NTS but with less content" (not counting those that they directly merge both topics).

Do you know any game with actually good NTR?

For example those where player can change between Her/His point of view ("Exploring big apple" was one of those? Dont remmember).

For example "Couples Duet" almost achieve it (but it gets weird when absurdly huge dicks comes into play". (no point of view changeable)

"My italian slut wife" is so cool, with sound and stuff, but at the end, its NTS.

Any guidance, please??

It's a tough one for sure. If I understand your comment correctly youre saying in most games NTR is just another path that usually contains less content than the NTS path, which I agree. Like it's hard to find a pure NTR game that focuses solely on that.

The closest I can think of is Our Red String but again, that isnt purely NTR but what little NTR content is has (without diverging into NTS) is quite good imo. Chances are you already played it tho since it is huuugely popular.

 

[SupppDude]

The closest I can think of is Our Red String but again, that isnt purely NTR but what little NTR content is has (without diverging into NTS) is quite good imo. Chances are you already played it tho since it is huuugely popular.

"Our Red String"have a good NTR path? I like game, but it turns out to be so complex for me to figure out how to get to the path i want haha
Does it have any NTR/Cheating path?

Any other recommendations would be really appreciated

 

[NewTricks]

The case is i REALLY liked this game. What is a pity (IMO), most of games, NTR means "NTS but with less content" (not counting those that they directly merge both topics).

Do you know any game with actually good NTR?

For example those where player can change between Her/His point of view ("Exploring big apple" was one of those? Dont remmember).

For example "Couples Duet" almost achieve it (but it gets weird when absurdly huge dicks comes into play". (no point of view changeable)

"My italian slut wife" is so cool, with sound and stuff, but at the end, its NTS.

Any guidance, please??

I think that "Good" NTR will actually make you feel bad. It is kind of designed to be a masochistic experience, and if you aren't into it you are in for a rough ride in the genre. Personally, I dislike mystery NTR games where the FMC is just always blushing and stuttering, and you don't know what that weird sound coming from behind the shower curtain is. A lot of NTR is just meant to be funny at the MC's expense, and if you don't see the comedy in it, the experience isn't going to be enjoyable. I believe that NTR doesn't always play to the strengths of a Renpy VN, and that's why so many get abandoned. The RPGM format seems to lend itself better to it. LISA by Palegrass is an example of a game that has both great NTR and NTS paths, but it is unusual because it is a female main character game and you get to make the choice if you cheat, stay faithful, or tease your boyfriend. There are also some good ones where it is in kinetic novel format, like My Husband's Boss. I mean, if somebody is into being cucked, are they going to push the faithful button? Probably not. The hallmark of NTR is inevitability and helplessness, and adding choices that don't matter much, like in Hangover Cat's games, only frustrates people who want their choices to matter. So it is hard to square that circle and please everybody.

 

[Pdr602]

The devs other game will be out in ~1 week. Check it out and support if you can.

 

[TonyMurray]

The devs other game will be out in ~1 week. Check it out and support if you can.

(It's already out, the upcoming release is the second update. Check out Wedding Roaming.)

 

[caleb100]

Interesting game, thank you!