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Is there any walkthrough of this game? I don't know how to change to the NTS/Cheating route...If anyone could help, I will be very grateful, thanks
 

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Is there any walkthrough of this game? I don't know how to change to the NTS/Cheating route...If anyone could help, I will be very grateful, thanks
There isn't one. I started mapping the choices for the different routes a while back (as of Ep7), but it was difficult because of the way the scripting was done, with the dialogue in the images, so I had to keep checking back and searching for images, etc.

The start that I did should show you how to get on the different paths at least though. It's probably not the most user-friendly way of doing it, but you can see it . There's a second tab at the bottom that is basically the same as the first, but has some of the images to show the difference between some of the paths.
 
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There isn't one. I started mapping the choices for the different routes a while back (as of Ep7), but it was difficult because of the way the scripting was done, with the dialogue in the images, so I had to keep checking back and searching for images, etc.

The start that I did should show you how to get on the different paths at least though. It's probably not the most user-friendly way of doing it, but you can see it . There's a second tab at the bottom that is basically the same as the first, but has some of the images to show the difference between some of the paths.
really appreciate it, thank you so much
 
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There's a new one that is literally that - CCTV Secrets My Wife is a Model - and another with that element (but it looks like it will have a bit more as well) - In-Security. There will be others, I'm certain, but not that I've played.
There's also another game called "A Perfect Couple," which is good too. The wife looked like Diana from that game, Fresh story, and A phone affair, which is a bf/gf game like wedding roaming.
 

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I actually got around to playing this one through to the end. Did the cheating route.

It was okay up to a point, but then it just gets a bit weird after the MC has conclusive proof that she is cheating. You are left with the choice to let her know that you know, making it go into NTS from there. Or you can pick choices that hide the fact that you know and act like nothing is wrong. I guess it's intentionally left up to the players to decide for themselves why MC behaves this way, which is... actually fine now that I think about it. The idea was to really try and simulate the phone environment and immersion, and I don't think there was any internal monologues from the MC which leaves his thought process up to the players.

But anyways, some of the initial scenes where she cheats were done pretty well, but the ones towards the end were very lackluster, with minimal dialogues and just a few animations. And then the MC comes home and the game just kinda ends abruptly lol. No epilogue or anything. Oh well.

Despite the underwhelming aspects, there was something really hot about how much she was lying to present herself as a good wife all throughout. Those texts read in context of what she was doing behind his back is really fucked up lol. What a conniving bitch haha.

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In general, the challenge for cheating/NTR routes in games with strict MC POV is always going to be the point when the MC (and players through him) finally gets to see unobstructed view of the cheating. At that point, we need to ask the question, "Okay, if the MC knows, what is he gonna do about it?" The only paths is telling her that he knows and accepting it (NTS), telling her and booting her ass (basically dead end route), or secretly observing (either closet cuck that tells himself that he doesn't like it but actually likes getting cheated on for real OR very weak-willed MC that doesn't want to lose the wife even if she is cheating on him behind his back).

The correct way to pull this off if you really want to maintain strict MC POV is to delay presenting him with the undeniable proof of cheating as much as possible so that the MC can plausibly be in denial or just be oblivious to it. Obscured shots, gaslighting, small hints that are explained away, etc etc. Basically really lean on the mystery NTR aspect. Only give conclusive evidence towards the final act.

This dev's new game is doing a better job on the NTR route it I think, but it's still early.
 

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I actually got around to playing this one through to the end. Did the cheating route.

It was okay up to a point, but then it just gets a bit weird after the MC has conclusive proof that she is cheating. You are left with the choice to let her know that you know, making it go into NTS from there. Or you can pick choices that hide the fact that you know and act like nothing is wrong. I guess it's intentionally left up to the players to decide for themselves why MC behaves this way, which is... actually fine now that I think about it. The idea was to really try and simulate the phone environment and immersion, and I don't think there was any internal monologues from the MC which leaves his thought process up to the players.

But anyways, some of the initial scenes where she cheats were done pretty well, but the ones towards the end were very lackluster, with minimal dialogues and just a few animations. And then the MC comes home and the game just kinda ends abruptly lol. No epilogue or anything. Oh well.

Despite the underwhelming aspects, there was something really hot about how much she was lying to present herself as a good wife all throughout. Those texts read in context of what she was doing behind his back is really fucked up lol. What a conniving bitch haha.

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In general, the challenge for cheating/NTR routes in games with strict MC POV is always going to be the point when the MC (and players through him) finally gets to see unobstructed view of the cheating. At that point, we need to ask the question, "Okay, if the MC knows, what is he gonna do about it?" The only paths is telling her that he knows and accepting it (NTS), telling her and booting her ass (basically dead end route), or secretly observing (either closet cuck that tells himself that he doesn't like it but actually likes getting cheated on for real OR very weak-willed MC that doesn't want to lose the wife even if she is cheating on him behind his back).

The correct way to pull this off if you really want to maintain strict MC POV is to delay presenting him with the undeniable proof of cheating as much as possible so that the MC can plausibly be in denial or just be oblivious to it. Obscured shots, gaslighting, small hints that are explained away, etc etc. Basically really lean on the mystery NTR aspect. Only give conclusive evidence towards the final act.

This dev's new game is doing a better job on the NTR route it I think, but it's still early.
That's pretty "nail on the head". You get the choice to out her when hit with the first undeniable proof of her cheating, and it leads to a game over as one of the options as opposed to turning into NTS. Otherwise, as you say, the only way to make it work right is to keep hinting and hinting, but not actually giving that undeniable proof. As you also say, I think Wedding Roaming is so far doing this better, although some of it does look pretty obvious. I've commented there a couple of times that it's maybe obvious because we as the player know it's happening, and we're looking for it, though, and for the MC who isn't looking for it, maybe it's not so clear cut.
 
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That's pretty "nail on the head". You get the choice to out her when hit with the first undeniable proof of her cheating, and it leads to a game over as one of the options as opposed to turning into NTS. Otherwise, as you say, the only way to make it work right is to keep hinting and hinting, but not actually giving that undeniable proof. As you also say, I think Wedding Roaming is so far doing this better, although some of it does look pretty obvious. I've commented there a couple of times that it's maybe obvious because we as the player know it's happening, and we're looking for it, though, and for the MC who isn't looking for it, maybe it's not so clear cut.
Yeah, knowing that we are obviously playing NTR game/route with our general knowledge of NTR progression means that the players are not particularly fooled by anything or under any uncertainty. We know. But the importance of it is for narrative consistency. Do not present the MC with an impossible choice so early. Because once there is conclusive proof, he must act in one way or another, and in most cases, the netorare route (basically cheating girl) cannot continue once he knows about it unless the MC starts to behave strangely.

That said, at the hands of a master, mystery NTR can even give the feeling of uncertainty and doubt. Girlfriend Tapes is the best one I've played in mystery NTR genre. Too bad the dev disappeared pretty much right before the finale ugh.

But I think phone game format is a bit limited in how netorare scenarios can be approached. It's actually a format most suited for NTS.
 
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Yeah, knowing that we are obviously playing NTR game/route with our general knowledge of NTR progression means that the players are not particularly fooled by anything or under any uncertainty. We know. But the importance of it is for narrative consistency. Do not present the MC with an impossible choice so early. Because once there is conclusive proof, he must act in one way or another, and in most cases, the netorare route (basically cheating girl) cannot continue once he knows about it unless the MC starts to behave strangely.

That said, at the hands of a master, mystery NTR can even give the feeling of uncertainty and doubt. Girlfriend Tapes is the best one I've played in mystery NTR genre. Too bad the dev disappeared pretty much right before the finale ugh.

But I think phone game format is a bit limited in how netorare scenarios can be approached. It's actually a format most suited for NTS.
Indeed. Personally, I think the hotness is derived from the tease of it (I know other people have different view on this, and it's fine) - where we know and can see some of it, but it's not enough to be able to definitively say she's doing something with that other guy... The problem there is that you don't really get to see anything, and you want to see it!
 

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Indeed. Personally, I think the hotness is derived from the tease of it (I know other people have different view on this, and it's fine) - where we know and can see some of it, but it's not enough to be able to definitively say she's doing something with that other guy... The problem there is that you don't really get to see anything, and you want to see it!
This is why I love mystery in these games when it is well managed. I know some devs leave the mistery as a choice from the player, if they want to spoil themselves at a similar time when events occurs. This may happen directly with the FMC perspective, or with subtle hints presented to the MC or even as something like dreams where the MC does not remember afterwards. Also, we must understand that as players it is like we are watching a movie, a theater show, where we have access to almost all the story, where the MC only has access to a portion of it, depending on the dev decisions. For example in the cheating path of Wedding Roaming at the end of the 0.4 update the MC sees his fiancee moving weirdly with facial gestures on the bed, the he sees some blurry videos from Paul and other photos that hints that his friend is having fun. With that we may could think that the MC is just dumb and oblivious, to which there might be two options, either he fully trust his friend and fiancee (which is pretty normal in a healthy relationship) or he likes what he sees with a possible NTS influence, although the story makes it think like he worries a bit sometimes, so we understand he loves his future wife and he notices weird things, so he is cautious, but he is not a combative person and also he knows it is a nice time to enjoy because they're in a resort and he is soon to be married, so there's not so much intention to start a fight.

Then, outside of the story, there's the player, who can simply just go into the archives and find out what really happened.
 
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I stopped believing in what was happening after the event where Vika gets into the MC's laptop without permission. Instead of saying, "Put it back, it's none of your business what's there," and informing his wife that her friend is rummaging through the closets and sticking her nose where it doesn't belong, the MC, a grown man who is supposed to become the boss of something, mumbles and makes excuses. As a result, this scene turns out to be just a formal and contrived plot branch.
 
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