Recommending Story-first games

[jufot]

Are there any games (within this list) where the MC's father is:
- Alive
- Healthy
- Not evil/scumbag/douche
- Has a good relationship with MC (and maybe his other relatives)

I don't quite remember all the games on the list, but from a quick look only The Artist and Reunion stand out. There are also games that might fit the criteria in the future, like Intertwined or Shards of the Past.

 

[camube]

On a completely different topic, I was reading some post in Reddit about VNs and was wondering about something that seems to be fairly common in VNs:

Are there any games (within this list) where the MC's father is:
- Alive
- Healthy
- Not evil/scumbag/douche
- Has a good relationship with MC (and maybe his other relatives)

Or even outside of this thread's list.

I was trying to remember at least 1 game where the father is alive, present, and being a positive influence in MC's life, but I can't recall any.

Edit: now that I think of it, I remember MC's dad was present (and being a good guy/monster) in Monsters College, but he is shown just in the first scenes.

noping's game no such luck
hopefully deluca too in three years. i want to see if the fans speculation on who his dad is is true

 

[365 others]

Another one, that doesn't match to 100%, may be The Seven Realms ...
- If Undead is also somewhat alive ...
- The MC's father is not his original one, but if we count given vampire blood as some degree of it?
- The criteria of the character is a harder one, as a Vampire and the Rule of the Seven Realms, he is stearn / dominant / violent but as far as the current story goes, not against MC / his relatives ...
- Healthy (mentally? / physical?) depends on the story progress ...

I remember him! When I stopped playing he was recovering (mentally? cursed?), not sure if he is still appearing afterwards.

I don't quite remember all the games on the list, but from a quick look only The Artist and Reunion stand out. There are also games that might fit the criteria in the future, like Intertwined or Shards of the Past.

Thanks! I'll check Reunion and The Artist. The others I have played (tho I don't recall MC's dad in Intertwined before I stopped playing).

noping's game no such luck
hopefully deluca too in three years. i want to see if the fans speculation on who his dad is is true

How much content is length-wise for No such luck? Meaning in-game hours.

 

[camube]

How much content is length-wise for No such luck? Meaning in-game hours.

not very long.
More than an hour but the story is just starting. It's still intro period. maybe 90 minutes? 2 hours?
okay that's before chapter 3.

2-3 hours maybe? probably less if you read quick.

 

[365 others]

not very long.
More than an hour but the story is just starting. It's still intro period. maybe 90 minutes? 2 hours?
okay that's before chapter 3.

2-3 hours maybe? probably less if you read quick.

Ohh... I guess I'll wait for a couple more releases then. It looks promising, but I hate the feeling of leaving something mid-reading.

 

[camube]

Ohh... I guess I'll wait for a couple more releases then. It looks promising, but I hate the feeling of leaving something mid-reading.

chapter 3 is actually a good stopping point. It ends the introduction period. Playing now is fine. And since this is his second you game, it's likely and hopefully gonna get developed instead of abruptly abandoned

 

[Hildegardt]

I don't quite remember all the games on the list, but from a quick look only The Artist and Reunion stand out. There are also games that might fit the criteria in the future, like Intertwined or Shards of the Past.

What's up with the Artist? It's marked as abandoned on here and the Patreon link links to some guy.

 

[jufot]

What's up with the Artist? It's marked as abandoned on here and the Patreon link links to some guy.

The Patreon thing happens when the page is disabled, so it redirects to the account owner's profile. The dev has been silent for a long time, including on Discord. It's probably safe to assume it's abandoned. Such a shame though, it's a pretty unique game.

 

[FatGiant]

Oh, when I was going through the list, I thought Reunion was this Reunion.

I was coming here to say that the father.... well... Wrong game.

Glad I decided to check first.

Peace

 

[FatGiant]

And none of those questionable choices are done as cheap thrills for the player.

I read you.

While I can't say that you allayed all my hang ups, you have certainly made a lot more sense than seeing a bunch of people recommending a game filled with what for me is trash.

I agree that the Tag system is indeed a faulty one to rely on when choosing, but, well, something is better than nothing.

I have yet to play any game in the RPGM system, I have it blocked on my Latest Updates list. I have no clue what it even looks like. Compared to many here I am a very recent player, and stuck on Ren'Py.

So, thanks for the exhaustive reply. This has given me a lot to think on.

Peace

 

[Birdnman993]

I'll just add my vote to The Last Sovereign. It's an absolutely fantastic game with an outstanding story. Also, the main story is now finished, so it's a great time to start playing it!
However, it does take a good bit of commitment: My current playthrough sits at 112 hours, and I have the bigger part of chapter 5 still ahead of me (the last but biggest chapter of the game). I think you'd need to speedrun it to finish in under 100 hours. And I would not attempt playing the game without either help from the wiki, or taking extensive notes.

I tried it a bit some time ago mainly because they said that the combat system wasn't useless garbage like in most of the RPGs on this site, but I was a bit discouraged for two reasons.

The first one is the excess of text in the sex scenes, at the beginning when I started playing games like this I thought it was fine but when you've played many adult games you get tired of the author creating shakespeare putting a lot of text about how they are fucking, it's very tiring when an author is redundant with the words, I don't like when they describe every tiny detail, I'll imagine what's going on in my mind.

And the second is that we are basically the babysitter of a “hero” which seems to be taken out of a generic photocopier, I understand that it is something parodic making fun of that cliche, but that doesn't make it any less annoying.

I still hope to give it a chance while ignoring the avalanches of generic sex text.

 

[dreamchaser]

I tried it a bit some time ago mainly because they said that the combat system wasn't useless garbage like in most of the RPGs on this site, but I was a bit discouraged for two reasons.

The first one is the excess of text in the sex scenes, at the beginning when I started playing games like this I thought it was fine but when you've played many adult games you get tired of the author creating shakespeare putting a lot of text about how they are fucking, it's very tiring when an author is redundant with the words, I don't like when they describe every tiny detail, I'll imagine what's going on in my mind.

And the second is that we are basically the babysitter of a “hero” which seems to be taken out of a generic photocopier, I understand that it is something parodic making fun of that cliche, but that doesn't make it any less annoying.

I still hope to give it a chance while ignoring the avalanches of generic sex text.

I admit that I just quickly skim many of the sex scenes too, instead of really reading them. Though that is mostly a me thing - I am here for the story and the game, the sex content is just the cherry on top. Because of that I can tell you: You are missing close to nothing by simply skipping that text, all relevant character development and all the story happens outside of those sex scene descriptions. Read them if you are in the mood for them, skip them otherwise (you'll get a recall ability later, so they aren't lost once they are over ).

Your role as a hero babysitter very quickly changes, you don't need much patience at all to get past that part of the game. I am sure you'll enjoy the MCs decision to do something else instead.

 

[Birdnman993]

I admit that I just quickly skim many of the sex scenes too, instead of really reading them. Though that is mostly a me thing - I am here for the story and the game, the sex content is just the cherry on top. Because of that I can tell you: You are missing close to nothing by simply skipping that text, all relevant character development and all the story happens outside of those sex scene descriptions. Read them if you are in the mood for them, skip them otherwise (you'll get a recall ability later, so they aren't lost once they are over ).

Your role as a hero babysitter very quickly changes, you don't need much patience at all to get past that part of the game. I am sure you'll enjoy the MCs decision to do something else instead.

Oh really? Well maybe I'll give it a spin then to see, I want to believe that the positive reviews it has are not for nothing.

 

[jufot]

A couple of interesting updates from the last few days:

- Beyond Tomorrow is being rewritten and the revised chapter 1 is out. I'm not a fan of remasteritis, but the story flows much better now, so the dev is doing something right. MC is still an angsty little prick, but he is less annoying. The lines that caused the tempest in a teacup "controversy" in the old version, where the deranged denizens of this forum were frothing at the mouth over the supposedly incestuous feelings of MC's sister, have been removed entirely. Small blessings...

- Chapter 22 of Price of Power is out on

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. This is the beginning of the story's final arc. I increasingly hate how Lune and Zaya's relationship is handled. They are unfortunately player-sexual, the cheapest of cop-outs, especially for a relationship that predates meeting MC by many years. You can go with the homophobic "they are just friends" path that wouldn't feel out of place over at /r/SapphoAndHerFriend, choose to "bless" their years-long relationship as if you should have any say at all, or decide that what they both need is some good dicking and initiate them into your harem It's cheap, pandering, and exactly what I was worried about when the harem path was announced. It's especially grating because the dev keeps prodding you with these "are you suuure you really want them to be lesbians?" choices again and again. Not to mention the unavoidable pregnancy storyline, which can never be anything but dreadfully boring, my enthusiasm for this VN wavers with every new chapter... Still, the charming bits keep me going. This episode has Legacy talking about skyscrapers, reinforced concrete and the Karman Line to our medieval gang, which goes surprisingly well

- Pent Panda, developer of Short Sad Stories, has

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his next project. It's called Almost Castaways and is about "two girls who suffer a silly shipwreck and end up stranded on an uninhabited and somewhat strange island". The Patreon post is public, so go there for more details.

 

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Pent Panda, developer of Short Sad Stories, has

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his next project. It's called Almost Castaways and is about "two girls who suffer a silly shipwreck and end up stranded on an uninhabited and somewhat strange island". The Patreon post is public, so go there for more details

Hell Yeah!! Best news all month.

Between this and "In the Ocean I Learned to Float", I'm glad there are at least two new VNs I feel truly excited about.

 

[FatGiant]

A couple of interesting updates from the last few days:

- Beyond Tomorrow is being rewritten and the revised chapter 1 is out. I'm not a fan of remasteritis, but the story flows much better now, so the dev is doing something right. MC is still an angsty little prick, but he is less annoying. The lines that caused the tempest in a teacup "controversy" in the old version, where the deranged denizens of this forum were frothing at the mouth over the supposedly incestuous feelings of MC's sister, have been removed entirely. Small blessings...

- Chapter 22 of Price of Power is out on

You must be registered to see the links

. This is the beginning of the story's final arc. I increasingly hate how Lune and Zaya's relationship is handled. They are unfortunately player-sexual, the cheapest of cop-outs, especially for a relationship that predates meeting MC by many years. You can go with the homophobic "they are just friends" path that wouldn't feel out of place over at /r/SapphoAndHerFriend, choose to "bless" their years-long relationship as if you should have any say at all, or decide that what they both need is some good dicking and initiate them into your harem It's cheap, pandering, and exactly what I was worried about when the harem path was announced. It's especially grating because the dev keeps prodding you with these "are you suuure you really want them to be lesbians?" choices again and again. Not to mention the unavoidable pregnancy storyline, which can never be anything but dreadfully boring, my enthusiasm for this VN wavers with every new chapter... Still, the charming bits keep me going. This episode has Legacy talking about skyscrapers, reinforced concrete and the Karman Line to our medieval gang, which goes surprisingly well

- Pent Panda, developer of Short Sad Stories, has

You must be registered to see the links

his next project. It's called Almost Castaways and is about "two girls who suffer a silly shipwreck and end up stranded on an uninhabited and somewhat strange island". The Patreon post is public, so go there for more details.

I agree with you.

Beyond Tomorrow, is quite better now. In all aspects. It was mildly annoying before, all that is gone.

Price of Power, is a thing that while I do agree that adding 2 women that are clearly in a monogamous lesbian relationship, to a harem because they want a male... doesn't really makes sense. Yes, they are hot... but... but... why? Sure, they may be cured of the plague AND may want to have children... but do they need to be added to the Harem for that?

However, I suffer from some kind of condition, that I can't comfortably leave food on a plate, even if I am already full. So, yeah, I added them to the Harem... under protest... but I did. :: sigh :: I simply couldn't say No.

The third option, it contains something that it will make it very hard for me to even try it: Sandbox. I've tried maybe a hundred of them... not even ONE was good. Some were almost OK, but I felt stupid, obsessively clicking on each "room" over and over and over, to see if something was going on. After a reflection and sincere examining of the time wasted, I come to the conclusion, that it is NOT worth it for me to sink that much time for so little return. I have another reason also, storified sandbox is an Utopia. If any part of the story can be played or not, there is no story. Period. Oh they try. How they try. But, what we get is NOT a story. A story has cohesion, sequence and form. A start, a middle and an ending. As I said before, a sandbox is the dismantling of a story, the removal of any vestige of sequence and the handing of it to a player to let them sort out what happens when and even IF it even happens.

So when I read a Dev saying that it is doing a sandbox with a story, I know that it is either not a story or not a sandbox. So, what I read is: Scam. It may be unintentional, but it is dishonest.

But, you may ask: FatGiant it isn't even done, how can you say that? Well, I'll use Einstein's definition of insanity defense: “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” (I am aware that it is disputable that the quote may or may not be of Einstein, it is however how it is widely known). There is a very small chance that I may be wrong THIS time. Statistically irrelevant exceptions are just that.

Peace

 

[camube]

I admit that I just quickly skim many of the sex scenes too, instead of really reading them. Though that is mostly a me thing - I am here for the story and the game,

Same. I read most intercourse scenes really quickly. I don't go as far as ctrl+skip them but I click it really fast. Only reading the first one to three words of the sentences before clicking next.
Most intercourse scenes in most games doesn't tell a story. That is the exact same reason I dislike Incest story. Most games has nothing to say about it so it isn't interesting to read.
There are some games where the intercourse scenes in it does tell a story, but it's extremely rare.

That's one of my gripe about BaDIK. The development time gets clogged by the highly detailed intercourse scenes and on recent updates, the players even get to choose the positions. It became boring. The last BaDIK update I like was Zoey Interlude. DPC can tell a good story when he wants to. So I'm waiting for that.

By now I've seen numerous praise of Sierra Lee so The Last Sovereign is definitely a game I'd check in the future, when I'm hopefully have more free time to get into it.

 

[MissFortune]

Please just stop. This is not the thread for this shit.

Respectfully, If you're that strong on controlling people's right to maturely (or immaturely) debate/speak on a topic in a public thread that has no proper moderation function for you, then why not just move to Discord? You can have your own rules, censor, moderate as you see fit, and ban anyone or any dissenting opinion.

You're never going to control people's ability to speak, debate, or their will to vocalize their thoughts/opinions. Especially on the internet. So why make it hard on yourself?

 

[camube]

Respectfully, If you're that strong on controlling people's right to maturely (or immaturely) debate/speak on a topic in a public thread that has no proper moderation function for you, then why not just move to Discord? You can have your own rules, censor, moderate as you see fit, and ban anyone or any dissenting opinion.

You're never going to control people's ability to speak, debate, or their will to vocalize their thoughts/opinions. Especially on the internet. So why make it hard on yourself?

Oh! Nice to see you here. I check out Little Regina partially because of you.

I always wanted to try WWJK but around the time I had time to try it, you were about to release MTC Chapter 1, so I play that instead. I haven't play Chapter 2 of MTC yet, I'm about to do it this weekend actually, if the game I want to play is not release this weekend.

I don't know if Ivy is a minor character or a major character on MTC but I like the conversations you wrote between MC and Ivy on Chapter 1.

Anyway, I wish both you and EchoFoxtrot success.

 

[365 others]

Respectfully, If you're that strong on controlling people's right to maturely (or immaturely) debate/speak on a topic in a public thread that has no proper moderation function for you, then why not just move to Discord? You can have your own rules, censor, moderate as you see fit, and ban anyone or any dissenting opinion.

You're never going to control people's ability to speak, debate, or their will to vocalize their thoughts/opinions. Especially on the internet. So why make it hard on yourself?

Aren't they doing the same when they ask for the players not to mention any unrelated games in a thread's reviews, like in this one?
I didn't think of his ask as controlling, and it rather helped keep the discussion within the same context, instead of becoming another hectic thread with no sense.