Ren'Py Straitened Times [v0.56.0] [HRelease]

[gnadudu]

I need really help. I've invited Lil to the second family for dinner over 30 times now. I go to Mary's room at 10 p.m. but it's always the same thing, just kissing. We just don't have a threesome. What am I doing wrong?

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[Radical_Dreamer]

Impossible with this release if you don't use console commands !

The whole vn seems only to work via console commands. There is no real wt nor some comment on the possible grind dev is trying to get players tortured with.
Looks like most of those teaser pic aren't actually made via gameplay rather than unren the image gallery or via setting the ingame gallery to unlocked.

#to myself# I don't get it

Please make sure to note to people that this is your opinion. A large amount of us, including me, thoroughly enjoy this game. All comments like this do, without context, is turn people off of a game with the risk of them not trying it. While I will agree it is grindy, all current content is achievable with some effort. And yes, there is a walkthrough available that someone made.

 

[Drearash]

Please make sure to note to people that this is your opinion.

Why? Most people understand what an opinion is.

A large amount of us, including me, thoroughly enjoy this game.

...which does not make dissenting voices invalid or undeserving to be heard.

All comments like this do, without context, is turn people off of a game with the risk of them not trying it.

And all comments like *this* do is attempt to gatekeep/suppress opinions you don't like. If the complaint is that the poster doesn't go into enough detail about what frustrates him, the appropriate response to ask, not tell him to shut up.

While I will agree it is grindy, all current content is achievable with some effort. And yes, there is a walkthrough available that someone made.

The walkthroughs in the OP are out of date and/or use cheats and console commands. The game *really* needs a better guide/hint system, as "a large amount of us" have already pointed out.

 

[Drearash]

I've just started this vn and it looks like, no one mentioned to dev so far, that "discussing interests" for the 20th time with each of his girls added to game takes it's toll to player's patience. 1- 3 times would be enough to set that option to permanent fulfilled when triggerin.

Have you found the right interests for the girls you are talking to, and are you knowledgeable in all of them? If you consistently hit 4-6 topics they like per convo, it shouldn't be taking 20 times to get their opinion up. Most I have seen is for getting the female cop to go look for the goons (takes maybe five or six good convos?) And opinion should stay high by default; are you missing events that lower opinions (such as ignoring mom too long once you're having sex with her, or missing dinners/appointments)?

 

[gnadudu]

The game *really* needs a better guide/hint system, as "a large amount of us" have already pointed out.

Does it? I think the game is perfectly fine as it is, an internal walkthrough/hints would just take away the sense of achievement when figuring out how to trigger some of it's scenes. (I personally played a lot of adventure games in my life and I enjoy this game probably because of it... )

 

[divingmedic]

Does it? I think the game is perfectly fine as it is, an internal walkthrough/hints would just take away the sense of achievement when figuring out how to trigger some of it's scenes. (I personally played a lot of adventure games in my life and I enjoy this game probably because of it... )

Till the RNG fucks everything up. It took me 63 in game days to get condom sex with Lauren. There is no rhyme or reason with the way the RNG is programed.

 

[Drearash]

Does it? I think the game is perfectly fine as it is, an internal walkthrough/hints would just take away the sense of achievement when figuring out how to trigger some of it's scenes. (I personally played a lot of adventure games in my life and I enjoy this game probably because of it... )

Good for you. I have a different experience: I find several of the events inscrutable. I usually don't get any sense of achievement when scenes finally do trigger, as I typically have no idea what just happened, and no way to reproduce or explain it. And the presence of a walkthrough doesn't take anything away from you if you don't use it, whereas the absence of one is a hindrance for others.

 

[gnadudu]

Till the RNG fucks everything up. It took me 63 in game days to get condom sex with Lauren. There is no rhyme or reason with the way the RNG is programed.

I talked about an ingame walkthrough/guide, not about RNG...
I personally have no problem with how the game handles RNG at the moment, but I can understand that some people are frustrated by it. The problem probably is if the scenes trigger too often, most of them get annoying after some time (for instance the principal who takes you away from class every week at least twice is already too much, once you've seen all scenes with her, because it gets a bit to repetitive, so finding a good balance here is kinda hard...)

And the presence of a walkthrough doesn't take anything away from you if you don't use it, whereas the absence of one is a hindrance for others.

Coding a walkthrough for this game would take away time from the dev to create new scenes, so it would affect all of us. Especially when the game can be played perfectly fine without one.

 

[Radical_Dreamer]

Why? Most people understand what an opinion is.



...which does not make dissenting voices invalid or undeserving to be heard.



And all comments like *this* do is attempt to gatekeep/suppress opinions you don't like. If the complaint is that the poster doesn't go into enough detail about what frustrates him, the appropriate response to ask, not tell him to shut up.




The walkthroughs in the OP are out of date and/or use cheats and console commands. The game *really* needs a better guide/hint system, as "a large amount of us" have already pointed out.

Bro, who are you? I never once told them to shut up or "gatekeep/suppress"ed them. They are more than entitled to voice their opinion. I mean, I see you took the time to dissect what I said and commented on each piece, but based on what you wrote... I have a hard time believing that you actually read it.

 

[Drearash]

Bro, who are you? I never once told them to shut up or "gatekeep/suppress"ed them.

It sure came across that way -in my opinion, of course, since you apparently think opinions require tags.

Here, again, is what you wrote.

"Please make sure to note to people that this is your opinion."

This is a snotty and dismissive suggestion. The kind a person makes who wants the person he is responding to seem small. Also, unnecessary. Competent readers know what an opinion is. So why suggest this? Do you make similar suggestions when people express opinions you like?

"A large amount of us, including me, thoroughly enjoy this game."

Which comes across as: All the cool kids ("including me") disagree with you, so keep to your side of the gate.
If that is not what you meant, why write it this way?

All comments like this do, without context, is turn people off of a game with the risk of them not trying it.

IOW: Comments such as yours have no value to this discussion and are not welcome (by us cool kids on this here cool side of the gate).

This is very much gatekeeping rhetoric.

ETA: I missed this detail earlier, but you started your last with "Bro, who are you?"

People trying to deny that they are engaging in gatekeeping behavior probably shouldn't open their posts with a challenge that is effectively: "Halt! Who goes there?"

 

[FusiFranse]

I'm quoting someone's post on my fatal error message to those comments out there:
"Aight, listen! I'm not even going to bother entertaining whatever complex you have going on."

Just inform dev about and maybe the base game is playable without an debug or console commands or just to have the pleasure to unreveal holy superior mom on day 563 for naked yoga, like in a "supporters wt" mentioned via

 

[FusiFranse]

... yoga with mom if the room isn't.... DOWNGRADED (as it's mentioned it would be cheaper)

yoga works fine once you downgraded to a single bedded room

In case you still need a fix for that, you can unpack the attached archive in your game folder.

Just found this on the run fix 'gnadudu' posted but isn't mentioned OP

 

[Drearash]

Coding a walkthrough for this game would take away time from the dev to create new scenes,

Any suggested improvement/addition to the game would require additional work. That doesn't make me wrong to wish for it.

Also, this game already does have a walkthrough/hint system. It's just not very good.

so it would affect all of us.

For those of us frustrated by the game's opacity, that effect would likely be positive. What good are new scenes if one can't trigger them?

Especially when the game can be played perfectly fine without one.

Again, not everybody is having that "perfectly fine" experience. If you are, good for you, but you shouldn't dismiss those who aren't.

 

[gnadudu]

That doesn't make me wrong to wish for it.

From my perspective it does, but I agree to disagree.

For those of us frustrated by the game's opacity, that effect would likely be positive. What good are new scenes if one can't trigger them?

Sounds to me like you don't like the actual game part of the game. The scenes which are currently in the game are all triggerable, YOU only seem to don't know how to find them without the game holding your hand every second. (or without putting time and effort in to find them)

Again, not everybody is having that "perfectly fine" experience. If you are, good for you, but you shouldn't dismiss those who aren't.

So because YOU don't have a good time, the game needs to be changed and other opinions on this matter aren't allowed? (I dismiss nothing, I only have a different point of view)

Because I don't know the devs opinion on this matter I can't say for sure, but the game has been in dev since over 4 years and my guess is nothing will change, so I end the discussion here.

 

[Drearash]

From my perspective it does, but I agree to disagree.

No, you don't. To agree to disagree requires respecting and accepting each other's opinion as valid, even if one does not happen to share it. You don't seem to want to extend that respect to me, and to instead try to make me wrong.

Sounds to me like you don't like the actual game part of the game. The scenes which are currently in the game are all triggerable, YOU only seem to don't know how to find them without the game holding your hand every second. (or without putting time and effort in to find them)

What a needlessly insulting and dismissive thing to say, and not at all consistent with somebody who actually wishes to "agree to disagree". I am not the only nor first person to voice this complaint, as you would know if you've been following this thread for any length of time.

So because YOU don't have a good time, the game needs to be changed and other opinions on this matter aren't allowed?

One of us has insulted and belittled the other for expressing a different opinion; that one isn't me.

(I dismiss nothing, I only have a different point of view)

Your tone has been needlessly insulting and dismissive, and has become more so as the discussion has progressed. You have suggested that those who think the game could benefit from better hints are outliers, when they are not. You have suggested that those who do "don't like the actual game part of the game." You have characterized differences of opinion as personal failings. That isn't expressing a different view; that is being a jerk. Don't be a jerk.

 

[gnadudu]

Nice bait, have fun on my blocklist. Have a beautiful life.

 

[FusiFranse]

....

Haven't read an analytics on written manipulation tactics like yours in net so far at all.
That's some real freedom of speech and democracy spirit.
Keep it up !

 

[Koooso15]

When I get in my room when mother is training I try to interact with her the game crushes

 

[Drearash]

When I get in my room when mother is training I try to interact with her the game crushes

If you "Ignore" when you get to the crash screen, does the game continue with mom in the foreground and a black background? If so, you can continue the game, even if it's annoying.

 

[harshadmehata0609]

Guys im stuck on jill's job. The option which i have to get in previous version but in this isnt popping after the 19.00 Dinner... what should i do to get that option???