Dickron100
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A shame, would've been nice to have sorted Diya out before a much deserved turbo sabbatical. Oh well!
Hentai L0rd
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Anthony Salvatore
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Dang and we were so close to getting the game finished. Oh well, shit happens. I hope he'll be okay.
I was waiting for that 3some with Grandma and mom or stepmom or 4 some with grandma, mom and aunt
I hope i see this one day, but for now, all the best for hrelease to giving us a great game, one of the best.
I hope i see this one day, but for now, all the best for hrelease to giving us a great game, one of the best.
"And they hunt down VPNs very efficiently" - me personally know two countries in which the governtment issies does such things - there are China and Russia. As I know, in both countries porn games delelopment in commercial purposes is strictly prohibited. If Hrelease is placed now in one of that two countries, the surprise is not the stopping the game development but the very development beginning.
Anyone else have an issue with the club not appearing when the girls take you to the residential area?
Jill is devoted to me and invites me to ride with them in the car or stay back at the motel.
But when we get there, it doesn't appear.
I also used to teleport there and wait to see them as they drove off after the evening meal. This was never an issue when I played an earlier version on a mac.
Jill is devoted to me and invites me to ride with them in the car or stay back at the motel.
But when we get there, it doesn't appear.
I also used to teleport there and wait to see them as they drove off after the evening meal. This was never an issue when I played an earlier version on a mac.
soulx
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If I remember correctly, he mentioned that he was from Russia and had to leave the country because of the war when it started, but I don't know where he is now.
I might be misremembering, but I think you'll need to wait an hour to go to the club if you ride with Jill. There's no travel time if you ride with them.
Ottoeight
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The bar is always there. You can go to the strip bar when Jill doesn't work there, too. Only when it's open (19:00-06:00), of course.
In fact, there's a hidden scene where you go there when Jill doesn't work and find the male cop and chat with him: too many years passed therefore I can't remember well, but I think you can interact with the stripper as well.
So, what the dude wrote - the strip bar not appearing - makes no sense at all.
Ну-ну, а где это запрещено??? Вы собираетесь это доказать или вы лжец?
Regarding: left Russia because of the war, I also disagree. We do not have a war. It's you who are always fighting with someone there. The developer left mostly because of the money, since money transfers are limited (or impossible), and most of the money does not come from Russia, but from abroad, that's the reason for the move - money, everyone wants to be lazy.
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Dear unbeliever, read carefully the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, Article 242 (it's too big to citate it here), and before ask unnecessary questions, try to think, or I would have to clime your as Dunno from Nilolay Nosov's books. Or, and as one's know, China's laws are not liberally than russian's.
Дорогой "Фома Неверующий", внимательно прочитайте Статью 242 Уголовного Кодекса Российской Федерации (она слишком большая, чтобы её здесь цитировать), и прежде чем задавать ненужные вопросы, постарайтесь думать, иначе мне придется обозвать Вас Незнайкой из книг Николая Носова. И, как известно, китайские законы не либеральнее российских.
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Disco Hammered and Chill?
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I seriously hope Diya gets her dues.. the game is chaotically free reign at the moment - why there is an ending available already on the game is anyone's guess - it's also enormously complex to organically get photoshoots..
Технически да, 242 это резиновая статья и разработка порноигры под неё попадает еще и под тяжелую часть "ради извлечения прибыли". Проблема еще в том, что у нас четко не определено законом где "порно", а где "эротика" это остается на усмотрение каждой отдельно взятой комиссии... Практически же за подобное никто не наказывает, множество бусти аккаунтов с 18+ играми как и девочек продающих свои киски, и никому за это ничего не было, хотя данные человека ведущего бусти в отличие от патреона полностью доступны товарищу майору. А если же, как в этом случае, вести разработку на сабкскрайбстаре и тихо выводить деньги через крипту то шансов что товарищ майор узнает чем занимается конкретный человек стремятся к нулю. Но в любом случае я это так, дискуссии ради. Оставьте уже в покое разработчика, пусть делает что для него лучше. Если захочет то вернется и продолжит. Если нет что ж, он уже сделал гораздо больше подавляющего большинства аналогичных разработчиков.
Translation from Grok:
Technically, yeah, article 242 is one of those catch-all article, and making a porn game definitely falls under it—especially the aggravated part about “doing it for profit.” The bigger issue is that the law never clearly defines the line between “porn” and “erotica”; it’s entirely up to whatever commission is looking at it that day...
In practice, though, nobody actually gets prosecuted for this. There are tons of Boosty accounts running 18+ games, just like plenty of girls selling nudes, and nothing ever happens to them—even though Boosty hands over all your personal data to the authorities on a platter, unlike Patreon. And if you’re running the project on SubscribeStar like in this case, quietly cashing out through crypto, the odds of some cop ever finding out what you’re up to are basically zero.
Anyway, I’m just throwing this out there for the discussion. Leave the developer alone already—let him do whatever’s best for him. If he feels like it, he’ll come back and keep going. If not, well, he’s already accomplished way more than the vast majority of devs in the same niche.
Translation from Grok:
Technically, yeah, article 242 is one of those catch-all article, and making a porn game definitely falls under it—especially the aggravated part about “doing it for profit.” The bigger issue is that the law never clearly defines the line between “porn” and “erotica”; it’s entirely up to whatever commission is looking at it that day...
In practice, though, nobody actually gets prosecuted for this. There are tons of Boosty accounts running 18+ games, just like plenty of girls selling nudes, and nothing ever happens to them—even though Boosty hands over all your personal data to the authorities on a platter, unlike Patreon. And if you’re running the project on SubscribeStar like in this case, quietly cashing out through crypto, the odds of some cop ever finding out what you’re up to are basically zero.
Anyway, I’m just throwing this out there for the discussion. Leave the developer alone already—let him do whatever’s best for him. If he feels like it, he’ll come back and keep going. If not, well, he’s already accomplished way more than the vast majority of devs in the same niche.
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It's about real porn, not games. I won't say anything about China, they have their own world there...
That's exactly for the purpose of making a profit, and that's all. At the same time, article 244 does not apply to games at all, because its name is "Desecration of the bodies of the dead and their burial places."
And again, it's really about pornography and profit-taking, especially if it involves underage harassment and other indecency.
And I have zero complaints about the developers, only praise for what they did.
I'm looking forward to updates and finally the end of the game.
sorry, I don't know how to combine it into one post.
So you finally read Article 242, bravo, it's great progress! But you don't understand before now that for censor which would decide are one's guilty or not, there is no any difference between book, movie, photo, cartoon or the game - there is only erotica or porno, and nothing more. For censor there isn't any "real porn" or "porn game" at all, it's all porno, understand?
Итак, вы наконец-то прочитали статью 242, браво, это огромный прогресс! Но вы до сих пор не поняли, что для цензора, который будет решать, виновен человек или нет, нет никакой разницы между книгой, фильмом, фотографией, мультфильмом или игрой — есть только эротика или порнография, и ничего больше. Для него нет никакой "настоящей порнографии" или "порноигры", это все - порнография, понимаете?
Of course, I meant Article 242 and simply made a typo. I corrected it in my initial post so as not to mislead others. Now: no, you're wrong.
The law makes no concessions for the production of porn without human participation.
Let’s look at the first part of Article 242:
“Illegal production and/or movement across the State Border of the Russian Federation for the purposes of distribution, public demonstration or advertising, or the distribution, public demonstration or advertising of pornographic materials or items shall be punishable by imprisonment for a term of two to eight years, with or without deprivation of the right to hold certain positions or engage in certain activities for a term of up to fifteen years.”
There it is—already a violation.
Now the third part of Article 242, under the section on acts covered by the first part but committed “with the extraction of income on a large scale (For the purposes of this Article, as well as Article 242.1 of this Code, large-scale income shall be recognized as income in an amount exceeding fifty thousand rubles.)”: punishable by imprisonment for three to ten years, with or without deprivation of the right to hold certain positions or engage in certain activities for up to fifteen years, and with or without restriction of freedom for up to two years.
Income involved? That’s already the aggravated part.
You’ll say it only applies to porn with real people? Fine, let’s check the official commentary to the article, point 5: “Production means creating pornographic materials by any method (drawing, photographing, video recording, etc.).”
As you can see, there’s no exemption for rendering or 3D modeling—it’s still considered production.
Still not convinced? Okay, just search for “Art college student convicted for pornographic drawings after classmate’s report”:
“According to the verdict of the Leninsky District Court, published on its website, Elena (name changed) is a professional artist who mainly draws based on anime works and studies animation and animated film at a college in Tomsk. The girl had a public VKontakte group with 135 subscribers where she posted her own drawings and reposted works by other authors.
Among the images in the group were ones of an erotic nature. They outraged one of Elena’s classmates, according to the court verdict.
‘In this group she discovered drawings of a pornographic nature depicting animated characters, including in the anime genre, but with signs of pornography. <...> The page also contained drawings of a pornographic nature promoting non-traditional sexual relations. <...> Among the drawings were works depicting a naked girl with male genitalia. There were also drawings of a man in women’s clothing. In some drawings, anime characters were engaged in sexual intercourse,’ the court verdict states.”
Now listen, I’m not denying that the chances of actually getting hit with this article are astronomically low. You’d really have to try to draw attention, and most convictions under it involve LGBT-related content, minors, or something else extra. But technically the risk exists—if some hater bothers to file a report, the police are obliged to investigate, and things could end very badly.
So we have to keep this in mind: yes, prosecutions are rare, convictions are few, and almost always there’s some additional factor, like with Yulia Tsvetkova who was formally charged under this article too. But the article is there. Technically, developing a hentai game falls under it. So we need to be honest here and not bury our heads in the sand.
Read? want to get personal?
The censor is a censor and he will not decide the nifiga, he can conclude that this is just a drawing and not a photo video material with a real person, so if the censor condemned you for something, go and beat him, he has no right to condemn under the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
As for our question - the punishment is for real images, and not for drawn 2D and/or 3D, and at the same time it will be for receiving a fee, and then the fee should be in a normal amount, and not a couple of dollars or something else. In addition, there must be someone who is excited about you as a developer, but do we have developers in our country? a lot? earn a lot?
At the same time, you need an offended person to file an application against you, and law enforcement agencies will deal with this issue only if there are significant amounts (a significant amount of the fee) and/or for the fact that someone has sold (again, who has stolen for drawings in 2D and/or 3D?). So the suffering in our case is only for the fact that you or the one who did not finish the game or there was little content in it
Well, someone else who wants to PR, but there is no hype here, they will twist and send more with their fingers.Хотя есть и действующие прокуроры, которым нечем заняться, они могут покопаться в делах, но опять же, им больше нечем заняться, кроме как заниматься сексом.
Читать? кто-то хочет перейти на личности?
Цензор это цензор и он решать не будет он ток может дать заключение, что это просто рисунок а не фото или видео материал с изображением реального человека, так что если вас цензор за что-то осудил то идите и поколотите его, он не в праве осуждать по УК РФ.
Что касается нашего вопроса - наказание именно за реальные изображения, а не за нарисованные 2D и/или 3D да при этом оно будет за получение гонорара за эти изображения и то гонорар должен быть в нормальном размере, а не пару долларов или чего-то еще. К тому же должен быть кто-то кто возбудиться на тебя как разработчика, а у нас в стране разработчики есть? много? много зарабатываю?
При этом нужен обиженный чтоб на тебя подал заявление, а правоохранительные органы будут заниматься этим вопросом только если значимые суммы (значительный размер гонорара) и/или за то что кто-то пострадал (опять-же кто по страдал за рисунки в 2D и/или 3D?). Так что страдания в нашем случае только за то что ты или тот кто не доделал игру или мало контента было в нее бухал
А ну еще кто-то кто хочет по пиарится, но опять же шумихи тут не сделать, больше у виска пальцем покрутят и пошлют.Хотя есть деятельный прокуроры которым делать нечего они могут поковыряться, но опять же делать им больше нечего чем фигней страдать.
But thanks for this, I didn't know about it, I thought that there were no precedents yet, but now I will know.
А вот за приведенное судебное дело спасибо, не знал об этом, думал, что прецедентов еще нет, но теперь буду знать.
Well, gentlemen, I think we can put an end to this.
Ну что господа, думаю, на этом можно поставить точку.
Thanks light03 and Sergiv2001!!!
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