Venoma

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The dev is losing support hand over fist, and will continue to lose more if he keeps adding more ntr. Why devs think this is a good idea I'll never know.
You know what 100% isn't the minority on this message board? The sub section of extremely loud and extremely vocal anti-ntr posters who like to make claims like that based on nothing more them their own obsessive need for it to be so. And which a lot more often then not just amounts to be a straight up lie with 0% actual research going in to it.

Heck I spent a week in the immediate aftermath of that last content release practically begging any one of the countless people chiming in their end of the world take here to re-post the supposed massive amount backlash and support loss numbers they were seeing over on this dev's actual payment platform/s. And as usual all we got/saw was a bunch of similarly minded posters as yourself rallying together to spam out a bunch of facepalm emoji's on a board dedicated to stealing a dev's game in response....and that's pretty much it ;)

But hey, if you aren't just straight up lying I'd still be interested to see whatever variety evidence you are using to back up your claim there btw.
 

MrD812

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But are you trying to convince yourself with these speeches? Because it is clear that the story has a MC in the role of a son, a mother and a sister. And if you don't like it, you do very well to convince yourself of this eh. But if a patch exists, it means that it is canonical as a thing. Only that due to rules on the patreon site, the developer can't give the real voice and the real story of the game... for me there is nothing clearer as a thing.


Anyway guys can someone tell me if the mother and the step father/dad can be stopped in future? Get ride of the other man?
If this relationship can be stoppe in future, in some way i can try this game. I do not like NTR. But if the lady/mother had already a relationship before the MC, i can live till i manage to get ride of the other boy. Ofc depend also of how many scene i need to see... because i really do not like to see this LI having to many time sex with another man.
But if i cant also in future is just usless. Till now i wait, just to understand if there is a get ride or some way to eliminate the other man.

Thank you
There is nothing to convince and exactly how new are You to this title?
Whatever Your motive is or anyone's intent for that matter.
Will not change history of how this title started or ends.

Regardless of any patches, alterations, cheats, mods of choice or whatever direction Dev's choose of this title.
There will likely be individuals out there whom will Mod things to their own preferences, that's a given.
Nothing new, happens all the time.

Think whatever You like and if this content is what You enjoy, have at it!
 

Venoma

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Repetition creates habituation and allows us to attach ourselves to the character over a long period of time. Here the heroines are absolutely superb and their psychology holds together.
While this can certainly be true when applied to some applications, I would push back hard on the suggestion that actually rings true in this game. Especially in a game where, and without sitting down to do the exact math, I don't think I'd be exaggerating too much in saying that at least 50% of the support and buildup dialog in this game typically amounts to "I can't wait to stick my dick in her pussy!!!".

I mean...c'mon. Bare Bones City as far as writing goes. I'd probably use this game more as an example of why a lot of people (not myself) really hate sandbox progression you can't just hold the CTRL button down as/when needed to skip through.
 

EJW

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But are you trying to convince yourself with these speeches? Because it is clear that the story has a MC in the role of a son, a mother and a sister. And if you don't like it, you do very well to convince yourself of this eh. But if a patch exists, it means that it is canonical as a thing. Only that due to rules on the patreon site, the developer can't give the real voice and the real story of the game... for me there is nothing clearer as a thing.


Anyway guys can someone tell me if the mother and the step father/dad can be stopped in future? Get ride of the other man?
If this relationship can be stoppe in future, in some way i can try this game. I do not like NTR. But if the lady/mother had already a relationship before the MC, i can live till i manage to get ride of the other boy. Ofc depend also of how many scene i need to see... because i really do not like to see this LI having to many time sex with another man.
But if i cant also in future is just usless. Till now i wait, just to understand if there is a get ride or some way to eliminate the other man.

Thank you
From what was said the stepdad will be around for a few updates before he is gone, but nothing is for
 
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Bahamut Zero

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From what was said the stepdad will be around for a few updates before he is gone, but nothing is for
Thank you. So i wait till the get ride/gone. Then i start to play it.
At last if i can remove him from the island is not a problem for me.

Thank you again
 
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wsadwsad

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But are you trying to convince yourself with these speeches? Because it is clear that the story has a MC in the role of a son, a mother and a sister. And if you don't like it, you do very well to convince yourself of this eh. But if a patch exists, it means that it is canonical as a thing. Only that due to rules on the patreon site, the developer can't give the real voice and the real story of the game... for me there is nothing clearer as a thing.


Anyway guys can someone tell me if the mother and the step father/dad can be stopped in future? Get ride of the other man?
If this relationship can be stoppe in future, in some way i can try this game. I do not like NTR. But if the lady/mother had already a relationship before the MC, i can live till i manage to get ride of the other boy. Ofc depend also of how many scene i need to see... because i really do not like to see this LI having to many time sex with another man.
But if i cant also in future is just usless. Till now i wait, just to understand if there is a get ride or some way to eliminate the other man.

Thank you
If not for one guy, there is no be any of "motherfucking" things in this game. If he stop supporting his patch, "motherfucking" things will stops immediately. So stop cheating yourself and others.
 

Corambis

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The dev here didn't plan NTR, why did it change....?
looks like to stall progress but looks like it backfired and is losing support.
There's any number of possible reasons for why it happened. The dev maintains that it had to happen for the story to get where they wanted it to, but I don't think too many people seriously believe that. Stalling progress seems like the most likely answer. The dev didn't really plan things out, and there's only so much you can do with two love interests in the game if you're intending for the game to go on for some time. He also made the most interesting love interest the focus of the game in that there are a ton of scenes and progression with them, which was leading the game to a point where vaginal sex seemed inevitable in this update. The dev could have either gone with the flow, or they could cockblock the MC and player with some contrived plot twist. And of course, for some reason the dev landed on the most devisive non-illegal kink as the focus of the plot twist.

There are so many other ways they could have gone. Steve could have been there, but Rachel was initially cool to him because of conflicted feelings. The MC had to keep Steve away from Rachel and the other women. NTR could be the price of failure, but only if you let it happen. Maybe instead of Steve, it's a classmate named Stephanie who secretly has a crush on the MC. She seduces the MC, and Rachel walks in as he's boning her or shortly thereafter, and Rachel getting upset over that becomes the source of the stalling. The MC then has to try to sort things out with his mom, cousin, sister, and now possible girlfriend, which could have taken several updates and might have been some fun, although I would have disliked the "MC unavoidably is put in a situation where they get caught fucking some other girl". But that would have been far, far better than the NTR or pseudo-NTR. I think the NTR put a dent into their supporters, although perhaps not a huge one. I'm still very thankful I didn't give into horniness and pay $40 for early access to this last update because I was sure we were getting Rachel in it.
 
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MrD812

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There's any number of possible reasons for why it happened. The dev maintains that it had to happen for the story to get where they wanted it to, but I don't think too many people seriously believe that. Stalling progress seems like the most likely answer. The dev didn't really plan things out, and there's only so much you can do with two love interests in the game if you're intending for the game to go on for some time. He also made the most interesting love interest the focus of the game in that there are a ton of scenes and progression with them, which was leading the game to a point where vaginal sex seemed inevitable in this update. The dev could have either gone with the flow, or they could cockblock the MC and player with some contrived plot twist. And of course, for some reason the dev landed on the most devisive non-illegal kink as the focus of the plot twist.

There are so many other ways they could have gone. Steve could have been there, but Rachel was initially cool to him because of conflicted feelings. The MC had to keep Steve away from Rachel and the other women. NTR could be the price of failure, but only if you let it happen. Maybe instead of Steve, it's a classmate named Stephanie who secretly has a crush on the MC. She seduces the MC, and Rachel walks in as he's boning her or shortly thereafter, and Rachel getting upset over that becomes the source of the stalling. The MC then has to try to sort things out with his mom, cousin, sister, and now possible girlfriend, which could have taken several updates and might have been some fun, although I would have disliked the "MC unavoidably is put in a situation where they get caught fucking some other girl". But that would have been far, far better than the NTR or pseudo-NTR. I think the NTR put a dent into their supporters, although perhaps not a huge one. I'm still very thankful I didn't give into horniness and pay $40 for early access to this last update because I was sure we were getting Rachel in it.
Interesting perspectives with Your take on alot of observations here.
Ever read any decent novels on survival or castaways You could suggest?
Back when this title started out, that's what got me into it long ago.

As buggy as things have been and all, looked very promising story wise.
Two long time friends / classmates against all odds on a desert island after their ship went down(not a family outing).
Granted when things started changing character wise(son/mom), i was like: "meh, seriously?"

Still, like a book we don't want to put down ya just keep on reading.
When that in it's self should have been a tell tell sign for me to stop, seeing the author change coarse full mast.
Had to see what was going to happen in the protagonists journey with obvious blatant feelings and desires denied.

Being stuck for LONG amounts of time isolated in the middle of who knows where without any sign of help or rescue.
Have to do the upmost to survive and maintain each-others sanity health, physically, emotionally and mentally.
After introduction of Jessica, the antics that ensued, relationships designations then flashback of Steve cheating.

Seemed almost as if the author lost vision and just started throwing whatever at the title to keep it afloat.
So many things stop making sense for some time, got to the point of.. ok, there must be some kind of plan here.
Least, that's what several of us were leaning towards at that point.

Things were on thin ice for some time but after this last update, don't count on anything.
For many of us, this title is just as ruined as our trust in the developer.
Best of luck to them and any whom choose to stick with it all.

Thank You for Sharing!(y)
 

ForeverLosing

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I love NTR and I still couldn't believe the developer did what they did. That said, the NTR tag is the only reason I found the game, so... we'll call it even.

Two things I'd like to see changed: I hope he cuts down on some of the unnecessary grind earlier in the game, and I hope he finds a way to make the NTR optional, not just unviewable. Like, maybe Steve is gravely injured when we first find him and Emily, and it's up to the player to choose whether to save him or not. I'd save him every time because I'm a masochistic idiot, but the players should have the choice after such a long romantic build-up.

I'll wait to leave a review until one or two more updates, but I did love what I saw.
 

packard1928

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I love NTR and I still couldn't believe the developer did what they did. That said, the NTR tag is the only reason I found the game, so... we'll call it even.

Two things I'd like to see changed: I hope he cuts down on some of the unnecessary grind earlier in the game, and I hope he finds a way to make the NTR optional, not just unviewable. Like, maybe Steve is gravely injured when we first find him and Emily, and it's up to the player to choose whether to save him or not. I'd save him every time because I'm a masochistic idiot, but the players should have the choice after such a long romantic build-up.

I'll wait to leave a review until one or two more updates, but I did love what I saw.
how do you leave a review ?
 

caju

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how do you leave a review ?
Top right side of the screen... There are 5 stars... Choose how many you want to give the game and a window pops up with an area to discuss your review.
*BEFORE* you review a thread... READ THE RULES for posting a review
https://f95zone.to/threads/review-rating-rules-updated-2021-05-31.1753/

REVIEWING THREADS:
The usage of reviews is not just a means to rate a game, it is also, a way for users who have played the game to give an explanation as to why said game is good or bad.

Review Rules
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Review Rules
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  2. Do not mention other games or other developers in your review, this is to prevent cross promotion.
  3. The review should only be about the game, not the developer (pricing, update times, etc).
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  5. Your review shouldn't be solely focused on your feelings about a specific genre.
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This is not meant for the guy sicerly asking how to leave a review
more so general
Thanks caju for taking your time and publishing
 
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dikdik48

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just hope the story NTR still continue if i read in this thread, there's problem with patreon anti-NTR.

or we can added in future NTR disable or not like that.
 
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