Ren'Py Stranded in Space [Days 1-19 Elysium] [WildMan Games]

[hshrink]

Just my opinion but I beleive that it's almost time for Ishani to give in. If using Haylee - Day 14 as a base, it could be an epic series of scenes.

 

[BorgiaBou]

Sweet, working on two games at the same time... what can go wrong

 

[Wildman Dev]

Sweet, working on two games at the same time... what can go wrong

Borgia, if you could just make everyone play my game and love it then we wouldn't be here, would we?

If anything, this is your fault. Since when is it the dev's responsibility to make a game that everyone likes???

 

[BorgiaBou]

Borgia, if you could just make everyone play my game and love it then we wouldn't be here, would we?

If anything, this is your fault. Since when is it the dev's responsibility to make a game that everyone likes???

Wut are you talking about? So this is about more income then basically greed, dude you making 2.5 k a month and i don't care from which country you are thats decent (more than decent in some parts of the world) income hell you do better than 99% of devs around here sooo myeah... you really think having a second game will help you with that? All you'll do is delay further more the releases of the game where you have a big fan base, we've seen it countless time to other devs with the same "strategy"

 

[Wildman Dev]

Wut are you talking about? So this is about more income then basically greed, dude you making 2.5 k a month and i don't care from which country you are thats decent (more than decent in some parts of the world) income hell you do better than 99% of devs around here sooo myeah... you really think having a second game will help you with that? All you'll do is delay further more the releases of the game where you have a big fan base, we've seen it countless time to other devs with the same "strategy"

99% is a stretch, but if you think I'm going to debate with someone who uses meme smilies in their arguments you've got another thing coming. I've got a bad back, Borgia. Tick Tock for me is just a reminder that eternal nothingness is coming, you get me?

In other words, you're too young and I'm too old.

But in all sincerity, it's not about greed for me. You're comparing financial numbers without comparing the work itself.

Either way, I'm not abandoning Stranded in Space.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

Wut are you talking about? So this is about more income then basically greed, dude you making 2.5 k a month and i don't care from which country you are thats decent (more than decent in some parts of the world) income hell you do better than 99% of devs around here sooo myeah... you really think having a second game will help you with that? All you'll do is delay further more the releases of the game where you have a big fan base, we've seen it countless time to other devs with the same "strategy"

First, it's nice to see that you seemed completely to miss the sarcasm in Wildman's reply about it being your fault and about it not being a dev's responsibility to make a game that others like.

Second, you are wrong about 2.5k / month being "decent" everywhere. Possibly it's decent compared to what other adult game developers make (though you're "better than 99%" is an exaggeration). But the average salaries in the United States for states like Massachusetts, California, and New York are about $75,000 / year, which amounts to about US$4,756 / month. Earning $2500 / month means you basically only earn about US$37,500 / year, and that's exacerbated by massive inflation. Have fun skipping every other meal every single day.

So no, it's only "decent" in certain places in the world, even outside of the United States. In Germany, Japan, and the United Kingdom, it only pays for around 75-80% of the month, for instance. This is why most developers work on their games while still working a full-time job.

 

[BorgiaBou]

you're too young

Yeah i wish it was true... anyways that's it from me i said what i think about this "two games" in development thing so good luck to you...

 

[Nagash477]

Well, last time i played this game was january 8 - 2023 (day 15), and now january 7 - 2024 (day 18) we have only 3 updates per year or 1 update per 4 months... what a joke) and he thinks making another game it's a good idea? Bruh...

 

[Wildman Dev]

Well, last time i played this game was january 8 - 2023 (day 15), and now january 7 - 2024 (day 18) we have only 3 updates per year or 1 update per 4 months... what a joke) and he thinks making another game it's a good idea? Bruh...

First off, it's kinda weird that you didn't address me with your insults.

...But is what you're saying really that bad? I feel like there are some popular games on this site that update about every 3-4 months, am I wrong? It's only me doing this, and my updates are pretty big in content.

 

[random_throwaway]

I cannot facepalm hard enough at people who come out of the woodwork and insert their 2 cents into something they cannot comprehend, and think they're in the right. You have an opinion, but that doesn't infer it needs to be projectile vomited on a forum that is primarily towards discussing the game (and developer) in a mostly positive way, giving feedback to improve their ability to storyboard and render a narrative in such a way that can be enjoyed by many to the point of spending money, thus completing the hopeful loop a creator looks for. Sigh.

This isn't aimed just at the most recent dullards, nor just for this particular game. Everyone that believes that just because they have an opinion, no matter how incorrect it is, deserves to have their voice HAS TO BE HEARD...needs to shut the fuck up and be more observant

 

[BorgiaBou]

I cannot facepalm hard enough at people who come out of the woodwork and insert their 2 cents into something they cannot comprehend, and think they're in the right. You have an opinion, but that doesn't infer it needs to be projectile vomited on a forum that is primarily towards discussing the game (and developer) in a mostly positive way, giving feedback to improve their ability to storyboard and render a narrative in such a way that can be enjoyed by many to the point of spending money, thus completing the hopeful loop a creator looks for. Sigh.

This isn't aimed just at the most recent dullards, nor just for this particular game. Everyone that believes that just because they have an opinion, no matter how incorrect it is, deserves to have their voice HAS TO BE HEARD...needs to shut the fuck up and be more observant

Happy to see that you managed to use your right to voice your opinion (right or wrong) too...

 

[MarsUltor]

First off, it's kinda weird that you didn't address me with your insults.

...But is what you're saying really that bad? I feel like there are some popular games on this site that update about every 3-4 months, am I wrong? It's only me doing this, and my updates are pretty big in content.

Some of us understand that you are "ambidextrous"*, and some of us clearly don't... some of us understand that Stranded In Space is a labor of love for you that you WON'T abandon as a matter of principle, and some of us clearly don't... some of us understand that you take the narrative and visual quality of the Stranded In Space very seriously and are not willing to compromise them, and some of us clearly don't.

Beyond that, I'm not going to get into the money aspect that one critic brought up because, frankly, that's none of my business; but with regard to frequency of updates, while I'm sure most of us would love to see a 70,000-80,000 word (just a guess) 1200-1500 image (ditto) update, that reflect the quality to which we've become accustomed, every three weeks, that would just be unreasonable greed on our part. Four of those per year is much more realistic and seems to be sustainable, and is honestly a gift.

* Ambidextrous being a metaphor in this instance for multifocal, for "some of us" who don't understand metaphor...

 

[indio68]

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Hello. Hope you're all doing well.
Here's where we're at as of December.
I am currently working on three things—renders for some Elysium content, animations for Stranded in Space Day 19, and the framework of a second project that I'm quite excited about.
For now, the key component out of those three is the second project.
What does that mean? Well, it means I'm not ready to give a release date for the next content update for Stranded in Space. My focus for the month of December is to lay the framework for my second project. This means establishing the rhythm of how I'll be working on it alongside Stranded in Space.
Having said that, I need you guys to know that Stranded in Space is not going anywhere. I'm not going anywhere, either. I know this AVN world regularly has devs that disappear or projects that get abandoned, so I know hearing about how I'm focusing on a second project might worry you.
There is no chance of that happening. Zero. I am not going anywhere. In fact, you can yell at me over this decision in the comments of this post or on the Discord (as I still check it every day) if you'd like - I will read it and my self-esteem will lower accordingly.
Anyway, my goal is to have a preview post for the second game within the month of December. Regardless, I will continue to work on Stranded in Space and provide more information about the next content release sometime in the near future.
Oh, and I will provide a bit more context regarding this decision at some point within the Discord. I'll answer any comments below, too.
Either way, I'll keep you guys updated. I hope no one's too disappointed by this news.

not another game plsss...why don't finish this one that is beeen a while now.?? it's impossibile that another game will not drasin energy,time and resources to stranded in space...we all know this...so why?

 

[indio68]

I just bought this game on Steam, hopefully Steam has sone sort of standard which ensure Dev's do not prolong finishing their games.

sadly no...or someone forgot games that last for 8 years in EA?? like that game based on Arma mod..(forgot the title..or 7 days to dye

 

[Neko-Chan Pacifica]

Thanks for your response. I was just a Lil worried after all the character work it would just get left behind. it has been a really fun story and I love the computer interface where they talk every morning!

 

[_doodle_]

not another game plsss...why don't finish this one that is beeen a while now.?? it's impossibile that another game will not drasin energy,time and resources to stranded in space...we all know this...so why?

The main focus is this game. The other game is just him making a rough foundation right now. Working on a few characters and seeing how they look in a few renders. He's not really working one 2 projects like this two at a time. He's said in the past his focus is on this game and that won't really change until its really close to finishing.

 

[Niuul]

Just one of those things where you hear a dev is working on (no matter how little) another project while in the middle of having one on the go. Wind up with 2 games eating up daylight hours and an update once per year for each (I won't say what 2 games I mean, but most will know.)

Can only hope by framework they meant storyboarding main plot beats or rough drafting main characters and not rendering full on scenes for a 0.05 or something.

 

[_doodle_]

Just one of those things where you hear a dev is working on (no matter how little) another project while in the middle of having one on the go. Wind up with 2 games eating up daylight hours and an update once per year for each (I won't say what 2 games I mean, but most will know.)

Can only hope by framework they meant storyboarding main plot beats or rough drafting main characters and not rendering full on scenes for a 0.05 or something.

It can be scary to see that for sure lol. I think he has some if not most of the story done or at least a rough draft of the story for the second one. I asked him on the discord one time if he plans out the story ahead of time fully or if he has a rough idea and fills in the blank as he goes. He told me he has it planned the rest of the way of story for SiS. So that's why im assuming hes working on the story for the second game and seeing how renders might look. I wouldn't worry too much for the time being lol. If he starts being like the dev for WVM then yeah, start worrying lol.

 

[indio68]

The main focus is this game. The other game is just him making a rough foundation right now. Working on a few characters and seeing how they look in a few renders. He's not really working one 2 projects like this two at a time. He's said in the past his focus is on this game and that won't really change until its really close to finishing.

hope it is as u think...but strangly this updatre is being delayed and that happen when he is "working" with this other project....coincidence??

 

[Wildman Dev]

hope it is as u think...but strangly this updatre is being delayed and that happen when he is "working" with this other project....coincidence??

Based on the length of time between my previous updates, is it fair to say my next update has been delayed? Hmm, indio68? Hmm?

I took the month of December to work out the details of my second project. You know, the one that's going to change the way we change the ways of the various matters that need their ways changed?

I'm working on Stranded in Space. Like your concern and its previous releases, its next update will be big.

...I feel like I should make a game where I just type nonsensical sentences like that ^^ all the time.

Critics of Stranded in Space: Don't you already do that???

Wow, guys. Wow. Unbelievable.