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Bloodguard

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I don't know. He basically killed a love interest with the sister choice.
Not really, you can make a path to choose the other sister. Also, pretty heavily implied that whoever was excluded will find their way back around eventually. Not saying it wasn't a bullshit choice, it pretty much killed my enjoyment of the game, but for Patrons, it is not really the end with either girl. :poop: They are still alive and kicking on the ship for the next however many years.
 
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Not sure if anyone has noticed or brought this up ***Spoilers below***

If Lira has a condition where she can't stop bleeding... WHY DOES SHE HAVE A LIP PIERCING!?!?!?!!?! end rant. sorry. had to let that out.
 

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Not sure if anyone has noticed or brought this up ***Spoilers below***

If Lira has a condition where she can't stop bleeding... WHY DOES SHE HAVE A LIP PIERCING!?!?!?!!?! end rant. sorry. had to let that out.
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It's a good question that's always bugged me a bit.
 

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Not sure if anyone has noticed or brought this up ***Spoilers below***

If Lira has a condition where she can't stop bleeding... WHY DOES SHE HAVE A LIP PIERCING!?!?!?!!?! end rant. sorry. had to let that out.
Did your main account get banned, d00dle, or is this a different d00dle?

It's explained a few times, primarily in Day 13 and Day 18's laptop chats with Lira.

It was an act of rebelliousness toward her disease. Self-destructive, maladaptive behavior, while counterintuitive, isn't such an odd thing in the realm of a lifelong or fatal disease diagnosis, according to the research I did regarding Lira's paroxysmal nocturnal hemoglobinuria.

A few examples: smokers who continue smoking after a lung cancer diagnosis or diabetics eating sugary, carb-heavy foods after a diabetes diagnosis. Some people will continue to strain their hearts with strenuous activities after being diagnosed with heart disease.

Why do they do this? Lots of reasons.

Sometimes it's addiction. Sometimes it's denial, or control, or coping, or depression, or other words.

Other words.
 

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Did your main account get banned, d00dle, or is this a different d00dle?

It's explained a few times, primarily in Day 13 and Day 18's laptop chats with Lira.

It was an act of rebelliousness toward her disease. Self-destructive, maladaptive behavior, while counterintuitive, isn't such an odd thing in the realm of a lifelong or fatal disease diagnosis, according to the research I did regarding Lira's paroxysmal nocturnal hemoglobinuria.

A few examples: smokers who continue smoking after a lung cancer diagnosis or diabetics eating sugary, carb-heavy foods after a diabetes diagnosis. Some people will continue to strain their hearts with strenuous activities after being diagnosed with heart disease.

Why do they do this? Lots of reasons.

Sometimes it's addiction. Sometimes it's denial, or control, or coping, or depression, or other words.

Other words.
different dood1e. I'm the better one. =) also, i get it- I don't know which day I'm on so I may not have gotten there yet. I just found out about the medical condition. But also, she seemed really shake up about it and just seems like she wouldn't have done it considering the conversation that was had by MC and Lira over cereal.
 

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Did your main account get banned, d00dle, or is this a different d00dle?

It's explained a few times, primarily in Day 13 and Day 18's laptop chats with Lira.

It was an act of rebelliousness toward her disease. Self-destructive, maladaptive behavior, while counterintuitive, isn't such an odd thing in the realm of a lifelong or fatal disease diagnosis, according to the research I did regarding Lira's paroxysmal nocturnal hemoglobinuria.

A few examples: smokers who continue smoking after a lung cancer diagnosis or diabetics eating sugary, carb-heavy foods after a diabetes diagnosis. Some people will continue to strain their hearts with strenuous activities after being diagnosed with heart disease.

Why do they do this? Lots of reasons.

Sometimes it's addiction. Sometimes it's denial, or control, or coping, or depression, or other words.

Other words.
Was a paramedic for 43 years. There is no end to the stupidity of the things people with chronic medical issues do and do not do. They made me a very busy medic over the years.
 
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Not sure if anyone has noticed or brought this up ***Spoilers below***

If Lira has a condition where she can't stop bleeding... WHY DOES SHE HAVE A LIP PIERCING!?!?!?!!?! end rant. sorry. had to let that out.
My theory: In the future they probably have painless laser piercing available which instantly cauterizes the wound, so no bleeding.
 
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Ripe

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I like Kasumi a lot, but I feel this way about Sasha. Would love to throw her fake ass out an airlock, Gigi too, while we are taking out the trash. :devilish:
In all seriousness there is probably zero chance any of the love interests get killed. Either the culprit has a good reason for doing what they are doing, blackmail/brainwashed, etc. Or more likely, it's someone we have not even met yet, who uses the drone for surveillance and has not even been properly introduced to the girls on the ship yet.
Killing a love interest would upset paying Patrons, and that's probably not a risk the Dev will take. :rolleyes:
No, it must be one of the current love interests. As upseting as it would be to fans of that particular girl, to have it be someone we haven't met by this point would be even worse. After all the build up we had it just have to be one of the current girls. To do anything else would be a huge let down and same would apply if it turns out the reason for it is blackmail/brainwashing.

Season 1 must end with one of the girls being reveiled as "culprit" and villain and others taking action against her... whether that result in "culprit's" death or even culprit running away and taking refuge in another part of the ship (one that is currently unavailable for others) it doesn't make that much of a difference as long as she is removed from lineup.

Bottom line, whatever dev does (killing one of the girls or making it someone new) it will make a portion of the paying Patreons upset... but I do believe killing one of the girls to be "lesser evil" in this scenario.

Not to mention that other devs had killed LI (Acting Lessons anyone?) and it didn't hurt them in the long run...
 

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No, it must be one of the current love interests. As upseting as it would be to fans of that particular girl, to have it be someone we haven't met by this point would be even worse. After all the build up we had it just have to be one of the current girls. To do anything else would be a huge let down and same would apply if it turns out the reason for it is blackmail/brainwashing.

Season 1 must end with one of the girls being reveiled as "culprit" and villain and others taking action against her... whether that result in "culprit's" death or even culprit running away and taking refuge in another part of the ship (one that is currently unavailable for others) it doesn't make that much of a difference as long as she is removed from lineup.

Bottom line, whatever dev does (killing one of the girls or making it someone new) it will make a portion of the paying Patreons upset... but I do believe killing one of the girls to be "lesser evil" in this scenario.

Not to mention that other devs had killed LI (Acting Lessons anyone?) and it didn't hurt them in the long run...
Nah, it's been foreshadowed that it isn't an LI, so it wouldn't be a let down of the story. Why do you think there's a mysterious drone and sections of the ship people can't get to?
 

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Aaah, hence the username!
Yes the diving part came from 14 years of scuba diving. 2014 I blew my right ear drum out and work blew my right shoulder out requiring 3 surgeries on my shoulder. Both my ortho and ear doc were ex flight surgeons and told me my diving days were over.
 

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Yes the diving part came from 14 years of scuba diving. 2014 I blew my right ear drum out and work blew my right shoulder out requiring 3 surgeries on my shoulder. Both my ortho and ear doc were ex flight surgeons and told me my diving days were over.
There's always snorkeling, though I suppose that's a little like saying to a pilot, "You can't pilot a plane any more, but you can ride in the back seat of a Cessna whenever you want..."
 

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No, it must be one of the current love interests. As upseting as it would be to fans of that particular girl, to have it be someone we haven't met by this point would be even worse. After all the build up we had it just have to be one of the current girls. To do anything else would be a huge let down and same would apply if it turns out the reason for it is blackmail/brainwashing.

Season 1 must end with one of the girls being reveiled as "culprit" and villain and others taking action against her... whether that result in "culprit's" death or even culprit running away and taking refuge in another part of the ship (one that is currently unavailable for others) it doesn't make that much of a difference as long as she is removed from lineup.

Bottom line, whatever dev does (killing one of the girls or making it someone new) it will make a portion of the paying Patreons upset... but I do believe killing one of the girls to be "lesser evil" in this scenario.

Not to mention that other devs had killed LI (Acting Lessons anyone?) and it didn't hurt them in the long run...
None of what you said is really supported by logic, but I'm glad you have it all figured out. Just as likely we are both wrong, but I love your confidence. ;)
I also said it could be someone the girls on the ship had not been introduced to, not that we, the player, does not know about. Meaning, pretty much any of the girls from the MC's flashbacks. (y)
 

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Nah, it's been foreshadowed that it isn't an LI, so it wouldn't be a let down of the story. Why do you think there's a mysterious drone and sections of the ship people can't get to?
So what if there is a drone and sections of the ship we can't get to?

Dev have been making a huge production out of Pandora's introduction and her entire backstory of her coming to Endurance to find out who the villain is and then kill that villain. We have been watching MC for several days now worrying and questioning about which of the girls it could be and how would they feel if one of them end up dead. To have it be someone else would not only be a huge let down, but also a huge cop out that would pretty much make the entire story pointless... after all, why would we take anything serious after that? We'd know that there would be no consequences of our actions so all the choices would be pointless as well...

None of what you said is really supported by logic, but I'm glad you have it all figured out. Just as likely we are both wrong, but I love your confidence. ;)
I also said it could be someone the girls on the ship had not been introduced to, not that we, the player, does not know about. Meaning, pretty much any of the girls from the MC's flashbacks. (y)
Having it bee someone from MC's flashbacks would be only marginally better then it being someone nobody met before... and it would still be a cop out by the dev. Like I said, after all the build up to Pandora's arrival we had so far, dev don't really have much of a choice other then follow up by having it be someone we could potentially care about...
 
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I think the deft plotting of the dev to build tension and suspicion with the known passengers, yet laying the groundwork for a twist, both saves the relationships that have been built while introducing a new aspect to the dynamics. Maybe one of the LIs were working with the secret agent, maybe not.

And since we know the enjoyment of a story is based on objective aspects, I'm correct and everyone should agree with me. /s
 
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Hey Dev, you might be interested to know that the latest edition of "Grandma's House" gave you a good plug. I would have taken a screenshot but I'm not sure about stealing other people's intellectual property.
The Star Harem stuff? If it was a reference, I'm appreciative. Moonbox is one of the best devs out there.
 

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Hey Wildman Dev sorry for the mention... but i just wanted to ask that day 1-18 apk was 1.96 GB but the new apk which is there only of 50 MB. Is it the 2nd part and apk of the later part will be released as this separate? Or it'll get added to the 1st part of the game later? And also... if the apk has 2nd part from day 19 then where's the day 1-18 apk?
 

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Hey Wildman Dev sorry for the mention... but i just wanted to ask that day 1-18 apk was 1.96 GB but the new apk which is there only of 50 MB. Is it the 2nd part and apk of the later part will be released as this separate? Or it'll get added to the 1st part of the game later? And also... if the apk has 2nd part from day 19 then where's the day 1-18 apk?
It's a downloader for the full game. The Elysium version is > 2GB and I didn't want to compress the game anymore than I already have.
 
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