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Can we put that stuck up Camila in her place?You must be registered to see the links
Also worth playing day 17 for anyone who hasn't
Can we put that stuck up Camila in her place?You must be registered to see the links
Also worth playing day 17 for anyone who hasn't
Is it you, Delightful Douche?! Are you my Fredo?Not yet.
meanwhile threads of games that have barely 5 minutes of play time are raving about that one renderI honestly have no idea why some threads pop off or not after I play through something I watch the thread if it's a game I care to keep playing. I'm always surprised at how short some of the threads for really fleshed out content full games can be.
Thanks man !
Can you sing? Can you dance? What are your skills? I'm not hard to please.I can´t pay this 5$... It´s very expansive in my country
you know, I don't mean in a bad way, but if I don't do even 50$ per day doesn't mean that I sit on my ass whole day waiting for support. Have full day job, family and some other duties, taxes and expenses, and still support you guys, good devs, in your job to entertain me.Can you sing? Can you dance? What are your skills? I'm not hard to please.
What's your APM? Or your WPM? What does the phrase "MS Office" mean to you? Can you print all?
404, misunderstanding found.you know, I don't mean in a bad way, but if I don't do even 50$ per day doesn't mean that I sit on my ass whole day waiting for support. Have full day job, family and some other duties, taxes and expenses, and still support you guys, good devs, in your job to entertain me.
It's just - there's to many good games and I try to spend my quite limited budget between different devs, not just give it to one, 'cuase I think some times it's more important to see that 5 devs have +1 supporter with 1$, than one dev with 5$...
but in the end - it's a pirate site! so ahoy, I want a new day(SiS) in my life
I also get both sides in this discussion.404, misunderstanding found.
I get what you're saying, and of course I agree with you. I'm actually surprised (and thankful) Day 17 isn't already uploaded; I pissed quite a few people off with my 36-hour delay. I've never had to ban a Patron before... it was a sad day.
I sincerely appreciate the support.I also get both sides in this discussion.
On the one hand, some of you guys do this for a living - correct me if I'm wrong - but I guess you're one of them.
Your dilemma is you need to make a living out of this so you have to charge a certain amount of money and you have to attract a certain amount of subscribers to do so while keeping the fee for your subscription levels at a reasonable level - and here we have the issue.
I for my part also support different creators occasionally because I don't think most fees are reasonable compared to the content provided, so I subscribe, pay what I think it's worth, unsubscribe. But you have to do it more or less this to make a living...
From the consumer-perspective:
Your Elysium-Rank is 20 bucks a month and let's say you push out one day every three months (great content, nothing against that!), but constantly supporting you on that rank would equal paying one day of content with a triple A-game. That's how many see it and how I see it.
I have subscribed on a lower tier and invested 30 bucks so far in your game and that is in my eyes a high but still fair price for a good product. What keeps me from constantly supporting on a lower level tier (even on 5 bucks a month you pay for one triple-A game per year...) is the sad fact that I'd pay for a washed-down version of a VN (missing content) despite paying a full high-value games prize while getting "only" a part of a VN anyways.
Sure, you have to make something in order to attract people to the highest tier subscription, but I guess you're putting way more people off in the process from subscribing in general.
I'd pay the 5 bucks a month for the full experience, but not 240 a year (3-4 triple-A games...) for 3-4 in-game days.
So without this site I would have bought 1x the Elysium to get the full game, determined to wait a year for the next download for 20 bucks and most likely forgetting about the game in the process...
I keep telling you to avoid promising specific release dates. Never a good idea. Best answer an indy dev can give is "I'm working diligently. The update will release soon." Never promise a specific date. Me? I know we will get the update when it is ready to be seen. No hurries, no worries, my friend.404, misunderstanding found.
I get what you're saying, and of course I agree with you. I'm actually surprised (and thankful) Day 17 isn't already uploaded; I pissed quite a few people off with my 36-hour delay. I've never had to ban a Patron before... it was a sad day.
I have heard that some devs forego the 1$ tiers completely, prefering to have patreons pledge 5$ 2-3 times per year instead. It's a matter of how much of the pledge goes to the creator. I believe that at 1$ it might be as little as 50-60% and that at 5$ they get at least 10% more.you know, I don't mean in a bad way, but if I don't do even 50$ per day doesn't mean that I sit on my ass whole day waiting for support. Have full day job, family and some other duties, taxes and expenses, and still support you guys, good devs, in your job to entertain me.
It's just - there's to many good games and I try to spend my quite limited budget between different devs, not just give it to one, 'cuase I think some times it's more important to see that 5 devs have +1 supporter with 1$, than one dev with 5$...
but in the end - it's a pirate site! so ahoy, I want a new day(SiS) in my life