Juerhullycin

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Agree with being civil (at least in the last pages), but since "the story is bad" help in anything? Why not for example "this happened and i'm not a fan, maybe could be nice if we could do this and that other than the way is" or for example what Juerhullycin talked about the end of season 1? That is a really good example of a good critisicm, just saying "i don't like the story" or "story is passable" don't help in anything in the developer do somenthing better. Why you don't like? What you think could change or he do better? That's a good way to help the developer.
For example, i don't liked that we killed the fury, but since was that or her keep killing people i choose to kill her, i don't like, but i choose the lesser evil in my opinion, see the difference?
sure its always better to formulate your criticism so that you not only say what's bad but also what's could be done to make it better, but to act like every one was only "bad story, buuuuu" is also not true. Dev got constructive criticism about the rushed sex scene even before the end of Season 01 and I was also vocal about that if I remember correctly or I just agreed with others voicing that point, whatever, but from how it looks that was ignored so if a problem that was clear articulated gets ignored then its not wonder if the criticism devolves to "bad story, is bad".
 

Flynn974

Developer of Stray Incubus
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No need to pretend the writing in this game has ever been anything other than passable, but the latest updates are just a poor anime ripoff that feels like it was written by a 14 year old.

Can't wait for the masterpiece you're gonna write, render, code, and then post for us all by yourself. Guys please tag me when he posts it I wanna play it!
 

packor

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Agree with being civil (at least in the last pages), but since "the story is bad" help in anything?
there is some disconnect here, because I don't know what you're referring to. I've loosely been following the thread this past month, and every visible comment has at least explained what they didn't like/why they didn't like something. I didn't find anything like "story is bad" in the thread Or reviews, so I'm not sure what is bringing this on. I guess you're responding to the comment that was above yours and wanted him to explain what he meant by "poor anime ripoff"?
 

TigerWolfe

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Agree with being civil (at least in the last pages), but since "the story is bad" help in anything? Why not for example "this happened and i'm not a fan, maybe could be nice if we could do this and that other than the way is" or for example what Juerhullycin talked about the end of season 1? That is a really good example of a good critisicm, just saying "i don't like the story" or "story is passable" don't help in anything in the developer do somenthing better. Why you don't like? What you think could change or he do better? That's a good way to help the developer.
For example, i don't liked that we killed the fury, but since was that or her keep killing people i choose to kill her, i don't like, but i choose the lesser evil in my opinion, see the difference?
There's a type of troll that thinks that if they don't use any dirty words in their complaining, then no one has any grounds to point out their "critiques" aren't actually a critique, but just pointless bitching. This thread has been inundated with them lately. They're the "I'm not touching you" of forum discourse.
 

SilentType

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Can't wait for the masterpiece you're gonna write, render, code, and then post for us all by yourself. Guys please tag me when he posts it I wanna play it!
I'm a quest designer. You should think when you're writing - why is this interesting? Take the last update for example (and the rest of the game). Been a little since I played it, but seems like the scene is either:
- Wow, the MC is super powerful! Explosion! Wow, he's won the fight! Isn't he amazing?
or
- Wow, it seems like the MC has really met his match this time! He's going to lose! Oh wait, turns out he's even more powerful than we thought! In a shock twist (to the people too young to be playing this game in the first place) he's going to win the fight! Bingo for including Teleports behind you. Characters making mistakes, the wrong choices, and failing is generally endearing, and gives them somewhere to go.

It would take too long to fine tooth the rest of the game like this, but you're re-treading tropes that weren't particularly interesting to begin with.
 

packor

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I see what you're pointing at. Some people are into that though. It's a power fantasy type, and some people may prefer to be the subtly OP person. Being too DBZ/Bleach can certainly be a bad thing, though.
 
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Flynn974

Developer of Stray Incubus
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Jun 11, 2022
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- Wow, the MC is super powerful! Explosion! Wow, he's won the fight! Isn't he amazing?
or
- Wow, it seems like the MC has really met his match this time! He's going to lose! Oh wait, turns out he's even more powerful than we thought! In a shock twist (to the people too young to be playing this game in the first place) he's going to win the fight! Bingo for including Teleports behind you. Characters making mistakes, the wrong choices, and failing is generally endearing, and gives them somewhere to go.

It would take too long to fine tooth the rest of the game like this, but you're re-treading tropes that weren't particularly interesting to begin with.
Starting from around chapter 7-8 maybe, I'm pretty confident 99% of all the people playing through the story never thought the MC would lose a single fight. He was never particularly powerful, most of his opponents would've probably killed or seriously injured him if it weren't for his healing ability, the extent to which is still not exactly obvious. Also, as a fellow person who writes, can you seriously not appreciate that there's a shit ton of effort put something like this together? It takes writers/developers like us months to put together something that the consumers will cut through in an hour or two and yet you are really gonna go take a shit on someone else's work? Sorry mate, either you've never touched writing/designing a story with 6-foot long stick or you're just straight up disrespectful to your fellow writers' work.
 

Phase_01

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Nov 27, 2021
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please don't get discouraged.
your game is wonderful.
honestly I don't get why people are complaining about this game. I can understand some other games, but not here.
Definitely feels like this game gets way more negativity than others of the same calibre

But I do think that's the reason, its a pretty high quality game all things considered, so to see it suddenly do things that didn't happen before, the jump cut sex scenes that felt more like they were being comedic vs having more sensual build up scenes for example,
is kinda jarring. The latest update as well, I quite liked the scenes, but seeing just out in the open group sex all of a sudden feels like something that should happen eventually cuz MC is an incubus, but also feels like it just happened out of nowhere with no real buildup.

And even having no buildup would've been fine if there was for example an explanation as to why suddenly everyone is just ok with this, like the incubus pink charm scenes we saw before, or even like the MC or one of the girls wondering what just happened afterwards and acknowledging that what they just did was crazy.

But instead MC just goes on to fuck someone else lol, the same one who didn't even know in the beginning that he was an incubus and hasn't really tried to work on his incubus powers except for I think one scene when he was captured.

All that being said, still don't see the need to be negative, as others said not like that's providing any real critique. I'm not the best at giving feedback but this is the best I can do without hopefully seeming like I'm being negative, cuz I do enjoy this game and its characters and story.
 
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MAGO-DAG

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Sep 1, 2023
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I'm a quest designer. You should think when you're writing - why is this interesting? Take the last update for example (and the rest of the game). Been a little since I played it, but seems like the scene is either:
- Wow, the MC is super powerful! Explosion! Wow, he's won the fight! Isn't he amazing?
or
- Wow, it seems like the MC has really met his match this time! He's going to lose! Oh wait, turns out he's even more powerful than we thought! In a shock twist (to the people too young to be playing this game in the first place) he's going to win the fight! Bingo for including Teleports behind you. Characters making mistakes, the wrong choices, and failing is generally endearing, and gives them somewhere to go.

It would take too long to fine tooth the rest of the game like this, but you're re-treading tropes that weren't particularly interesting to begin with.
Wow! it was fantastic! thanks for lifting our spirits. 1000230858.gif
 
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shitass1001

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The buildup was all the previous updates.
Like, once you already fucked girl A, you don't need to repeatedly do buildup with her. She is already your lover and you can fuck her at will now.
Part of build up is also the moments before the characters start fucking. Yes most of the character/relationship build up happened in the previous updates, but I think that it enhances a scene when there is stuff between a character showing up, *click*, they are mid fuck session.
Even something minor like the MC saying "get that ass over here" and a render showing how the girl he is saying that to reacts to that would be effective. It doesn't have to be something that undermines his incubus-ness, like he shouldn't have to ask or work for it, but there still should be something.
Also, for threesomes there should be a bit of build up, like a "meanwhile" scene where Gabi and Seira learn each other are sexually active with the MC and decide they should have a threesome.
 

Juerhullycin

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But I do think that's the reason, its a pretty high quality game all things considered
that's the thing why the game gets more "negativity" it has started with great quality and was great just to fumble its bag and ignoring complaints from the player base.

so to see it suddenly do things that didn't happen before, the jump cut sex scenes that felt more like they were being comedic vs having more sensual build up scenes for example,
is kinda jarring. The latest update as well, I quite liked the scenes, but seeing just out in the open group sex all of a sudden feels like something that should happen eventually cuz MC is an incubus, but also feels like it just happened out of nowhere with no real buildup.

And even having no buildup would've been fine if there was for example an explanation as to why suddenly everyone is just ok with this, like the incubus pink charm scenes we saw before, or even like the MC or one of the girls wondering what just happened afterwards and acknowledging that what they just did was crazy.
If the game is just somewhere between okay and meh and the story is already jumping around like nobodies business, nobody would say a peep about "cut -> sex scene"

In this game Its blatantly out of place. Just as if the dev forget to put renders and story into the game where something should be, once or twice it's use can be handwaved as tool for comedic effect. We all laughed and moved on. The same joke isn't as funny the 20th time around (wasn't funny since we reached number 3 to be honest).

also with out even a hint of build-up its just completely meaningless sex, we as players could just watch the scenes in a gallery and we would miss nothing.
The story is now either
a) devolved to the point that she just acts as a vehicle to get us to the next meaningless sex scene, which could be swapped with every other sex scene, without it making a difference or
b) the story is the important part and the meaningless sex scenes are just there to inhibit the story flow.

its cut -> sex scene either way. Also the use of that stylistic tool clashes horribly with the overarching story tone.
and the sex scenes while still good production wise are doing nothing for me it's like watching some porn gifs the participants have no chemistry, at all, because there is no time spent on building any.
 

vrrick978

Newbie
Oct 30, 2021
15
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Hey, fellas!
Just wanted to update you on how the development is going. Of course, the work is not nearly done, I have 1881 renders and 48 videos to turn into a chapter here. This is basically two times as many as chapter 1 of season 2, so the coding will take 2 times as much effort. To add to that, I have uni now and even though it doesn't take that much of my time, it'll probably impact how quick and efficient I can work. Anyways, I'm pretty confident at this point that the chapter will be released this month, I really can't see coding and sound taking longer than two weeks, but let's see how it goes, I should have a release for you guys really soon.
As always, thank you so so much for supporting me!
Lots of love,
Flynn
 
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