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tortorus

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It's a crime that this dev has under 200 patrons.
Well, it s not to surprising for a game with 583 like... ok it have a weighted rating high but not a lot like it... So 200 subscripter are normal if there are only 600 to like it.
This game is average nice but not so great, it had nice graphics and dialogue but the story is average (i like it because of the badass mc...) and the porn scene too (3 sec loop, one pose is the bare minimum). AVn devs often underestimates the story and the animated sex scene. And once you start it averagely it s hard to get people hooked... And if you change it to much you can lose your fan base, its a 2 years old game, people now know your game, and like it for what it is... or not at all.
I think this game is too old for big change, Mr dev you will lose people if you try deap change... Sure you will have maybe 20-50 fanboys who will follow you no matter what, but it s not really a lot.
The graphic change is really too massive, you will have to rework from the start (and with a 2 years game, it will take a lot of time...), this will delay the update of the story and you will lose supporter. I don t think this was a smart move. This game will not survive long...
I would suggest to finish this one fast with the old graphics and try a new game with better graphics, sex scene and especially a story with more work if you want more subscripter to be hooked... ninja, fantasy and greek god are a weird mix. Also light bdsm and vanilla are not the most attractive kink here...
 
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bulbor

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Summertime Saga has also been around for almost 8 years, going back to when there wasn't nearly as much competition. A lot of much older games have absurdly high levels of support.
Plus Flynn has only been on Patreon for I believe the last 3 updates so he's got a lot to catch up on in that regard. Still more or less agree with your point that too many release dates invites too much chaos.
You are right about S.S. being around for a long time, but they wouldn't have been able to keep their supporters if they didn't have a sustainable and generous system. The beauty of the $1 tier is that once people sign up, they let it ride for years, because it's so cheap. Only $12 per year right, but multiply that by 1 000 - 2 000 supporters or in Summertime Sagas case 10 000 - 20 000 supporters and you get a different picture.
 
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Would actually read all the thank-you's at the end if the game allowed me to read them normally instead of creating a way-too-long fixed delay. Because of that, I hold down the skip key, and they go by far too fast to read at all.
 
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ryansFLYIN

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Quite a cliffhanger... I can't wait to discover the exact role that the gods play in this story. Amazing update, finally a big step forward with Anabelle. While Irena leans more and more towards the MC side.

Maybe the scene with Nari is missing something? The fight was intense , but I think we didn't necessarily feel it. And I thought Nari was going to mention the choice we made when it came to kill or spare uh... I don't remember her name or her species, but the one who had taken possession of Venus' body. But given how the scene went, we're going to meet him again anyway.

Otherwise everything was very good as usual. I guess the succubus breath on Anabelle is what freed her towards the MC, so thanks to her!
Irena took a big step back for me. Whether she was rooting for MC or not, once they (Nari and that other succubus) made it clear they were OK with killing MC and she stepped out of their way, I immediately took her off my list of LI's. I was actually hoping for an option where she comes up to the MC after the fight and we got the change to tell her to fuck off, but hopefully that choice will still exist somewhere down the line. I might have to go back and not save Nixie, too, since she was on their side. Thought she wouldn't go back to them since, y'know... they kinda left her for dead.
 

harem.king

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Irena took a big step back for me. Whether she was rooting for MC or not, once they (Nari and that other succubus) made it clear they were OK with killing MC and she stepped out of their way, I immediately took her off my list of LI's. I was actually hoping for an option where she comes up to the MC after the fight and we got the change to tell her to fuck off, but hopefully that choice will still exist somewhere down the line. I might have to go back and not save Nixie, too, since she was on their side. Thought she wouldn't go back to them since, y'know... they kinda left her for dead.
She tried to convince him to not attack the MC.
it didn't work...

did you expect her to actually fight him? he is way way way stronger than her, MC is also vastly stronger than her.
all that would have done is gotten her killed and then people would be raging at dev for killing her.
 

Mommysbuttslut

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Irena took a big step back for me. Whether she was rooting for MC or not, once they (Nari and that other succubus) made it clear they were OK with killing MC and she stepped out of their way, I immediately took her off my list of LI's. I was actually hoping for an option where she comes up to the MC after the fight and we got the change to tell her to fuck off, but hopefully that choice will still exist somewhere down the line. I might have to go back and not save Nixie, too, since she was on their side. Thought she wouldn't go back to them since, y'know... they kinda left her for dead.
Like she had any choice. She couldn't stand up to Nari, he's stronger than MC, he'd be several times stronger than her. Her father is enough of a cunt that he probably told him to take her out if she did. She DID try to convince them to leave him alone.
Like I just don't see what you're expecting here. Because she didn't literally give up her life to save a guy that she barely even knows she's bad?
 

ryansFLYIN

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She tried to convince him to not attack the MC.
it didn't work...

did you expect her to actually fight him? he is way way way stronger than her, MC is also vastly stronger than her.
all that would have done is gotten her killed and then people would be raging at dev for killing her.
She made 1 protest about how the order is to take him in alive and then was like 'ah, oh well' when they were like "or dead". That's the bare minimum. She didn't even try to argue or anything. I didn't expect her to fight him, but also... would they have tried to hurt Axius' daughter if she pushed back on the "or dead" thing? She didn't really do much here. Yes, sure, the MC is stronger and she knows this, but she also seemed a bit surprised that the MC could stand against Nari, which means she probably expected him to be killed. If she expected that, and all she could muster was "BuT tHe OrDeR sAiD" then she ain't worth dick.

And you can't say that all that would have done was gotten her killed... this is a fictional story - any number of things could have happened if they were written that way. Don't want her dead? Write around it. We're not watching a historical documentary.
 

Strike-10

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Oh, that's a shame. I didn't know how anal both Patreon and Steam can be, it's such a decent well done project. I'd hate to see it become abandoned, because of early leaks. Thanks for the information.
When Devs talk about Patreon problems … they are referring to quasi morality guidelines they have to comply with to be there.
Steam problems on the other hand are due to legal/copyrights ownership issues.

So I agree … Patreon is Anal but the position is tied to maintaining their stock price and not being a company that supports incest.

Steam is much more cut and dried and they are concerned about hordes of lawyers suing them into bankruptcy because the profited off pirated HS models. (Which is a nebulous & specious claim) however lawyers love to make a meal out of that type of shit.
 

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"You know, I never, I never told you about this but there's one guy
Somebody I really love, he's never around
Well, he's takin' things that could be alright, that could be nice
And he makes them so ugly, so damn ugly
And we put out the lights on them
Yeah, we make it dark, we put out the lights..."
 

S1nsational

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I still find it very weird and a bit unnerving seeing all the girls so lust drunk from the Incubus powers, but then they seem to be mostly back to normal later. Makes me really glad that Irena and Nixie are both succubi and main girls. Irena should be completely immune to our mind destroying, and Nixie should be at least resistant to it.

Regardless, an interesting and good update
 

Zeruelll

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- Sound effects and Music are now added to all the chapters in season 1, so I'd recommend you start a new game even more so if it's been a while since you last played the game.
Well, perfect time to start playing this VN then!
 

Green Layer

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Can't remember how long it took me, but i'd say atleast 5+ hours for sure. (sure i may have repeated alot of scenes multiple times)

can't wait for Ch 12 finna play it all again.
That respectable numbers, Imma wait until S1 finishes and download and bing play all chapters.

its worth playing when chapter 12 is out (3-4 weeks until public or earlier if you support patreon)
chapter 12 finishes season 1 so you kinda bumped into the perfect timing to start. also the early chapters just got audio and stuff so an extra plus
Cant say many devs put that much effort into their games. does the quality lives up to the hype, though?
 

Harem4life

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1) romance tag should be removed because there's 0 romance so far. They are friends, they fuck casually, they say 1-2 lines and go on their own way.

2) these girls are virgins but their deepthroating skills can put even Mia khalifa to shame. All I want is a little realism. I want them to struggle before taking that dick in any hole be it mouth or pussy. All the ninja girls have dildos and they do BDSM so it makes sense that they actually know how to suck a dick despite of being virgins but what about gabbie? Her mother barely let her go outside and she never fucked gabbie with dildos like jennifer said. Even seira is a pro.

Are we following porn logic that it there's a mouth it will deepthroat?

3) speaking about dildos, I don't really have any problem with that but I prefer it when girls first fuck MC and then use dildos if they really have to. So tamara's scene was a disappointment for me. Well, everyone is fucking MC just like that and even Hailey gave him BJ despite of having no sexy moments with MC prior to this event so why Tamara couldn't simply fuck MC? If she didn't want to fuck MC she could have used dildo alone, why invite MC? It wouldn't have made any difference to her, right? It is MC who is getting the sensation of fucking Tamara but Tamara is only fucking and feeling that dildo.

4) please don't just jump in the middle of a sex scene. Stephanie's scene started with a BJ and Annabelle's scene with sex. 2 years of waiting and we didn't even get to see small things which led to sex. I understood that Anna jumped on MC because that girl blew on Anna's face so I won't complain about buildup.

TL;DR
1) no romance, only FWBs
2) virgins don't act like virgins
3) using dildos to fuck before fucking MC
4) Jumping to the middle of sex. No foreplay shown, no anticipation.
 
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1) no romance, only FWBs
2) virgins don't act like virgins
3) using dildos to fuck before fucking MC
4) Jumping to the middle of sex. No foreplay shown, no anticipation.
1 - Hmm, I can see that. Valid I guess, but there is one or two sweet moments still.
2 - ...meh.
3 - srsly? you jealous of an inanimate sex toy half the size of MC's dick?:BootyTime: Girls get horny too and some of them like to use toys. The Voodoo scene was kinda wack tho, I agree but I think she is just being difficult. She wants to but doesnt want to.
4 - Kind of half and half on this one. Sometimes I can see what the dev was going for but I think if overused then it becomes very noticeable.
 
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