VN Ren'Py Stray Incubus [S2 Ch.3b] [IP Studios]

[Gtdead]

Some of the arguments here are similar to:
"MC got punched, that's masochism content."

You don't like that a slut in a temporary power position took advantage of you.
I like that the inexperienced MC has enough spunk to be unwavering and gets to turn the tables, turning her into a drooling mess. He also sends the little girls away to not traumatize them cause you gotta be considerate.

Good for me.

 

[ThaDude1977]

Do i miss a lot by opt'ing out of the Bdsm content?

 

[YogSothoth1982]

If you're only domming submissive women then that's pretty weak. Nixie represents a challenge that doesn't exist with the rest of the cast. Just because she had one dominant scene doesn't mean that she won't fall like the rest of them, and that will be far more satisfying.

I still intend to prevent the MC from having a romantic relationship and any sex scene with Nixie.

Some of the arguments here are similar to:
"MC got punched, that's masochism content."

You don't like that a slut in a temporary power position took advantage of you.
I like that the inexperienced MC has enough spunk to be unwavering and gets to turn the tables, turning her into a drooling mess. He also sends the little girls away to not traumatize them cause you gotta be considerate.

Good for me.

I'm not interested in turning the tables, I prefer to ignore her.

 

[DarkBlade12345]

And do you think she's going to be expecting the MC's brain melting demon cock to defeat her when that happens? Probably not. I didn't mean a challenge as in she'll be hard to get, or that we'll have to make some obscure choices. I meant a challenge in the sense that she's probably going to be going into her next sex scene expecting to hold the upper hand just to have it turned around on her as MC turns her into a drooling fleshlight.

But this pretty much already happened in her second interaction. You have sex with her to save her a little later and she pretty much did what you're describing, though with a little more urgency. I guess it depends on if you interacted with her previously, but assuming you played all her events up to that point, I don't see her being in that position.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

But this pretty much already happened in her second interaction. You have sex with her to save her a little later and she pretty much did what you're describing, though with a little more urgency. I guess it depends on if you interacted with her previously, but assuming you played all her events up to that point, I don't see her being in that position.

That's different though. She was on deaths door and needs to get fucked as an emergency medical procedure (succubus or not god I love porn logic). Next time they're going to be meeting on more or less equal footing and MC can show her the actual difference between them.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

But this pretty much already happened in her second interaction. You have sex with her to save her a little later and she pretty much did what you're describing, though with a little more urgency. I guess it depends on if you interacted with her previously, but assuming you played all her events up to that point, I don't see her being in that position.

When I started the game the first time, after the first scene with Nixie, I decided that I didn't want to do the second (nor the third, nor the fourth, nor...)

Then I restarted the game and avoided going the route where the MC is kidnapped, which caused the second Nixie scene to not happen (which prevented me from having to say no again)

 

[DarkBlade12345]

When I started the game the first time, after the first scene with Nixie, I decided that I didn't want to do the second (nor the third, nor the fourth, nor...)

Then I restarted the game and avoided going the route where the MC is kidnapped, which caused the second Nixie scene to not happen (which prevented me from having to say no again)

IIRC, there was a continuity error last chapter where the Nixie events are mentioned by Irena, even if you didn't do them. IDK if that was fixed.

 

[Gtdead]

I'm not interested in turning the tables, I prefer to ignore her.

I fully understand that someone may not want to have anything to do with Nixie and that prison scene.
My problem is with some of the arguments.

Just like being punched is violence and not masochism, being sexualy assaulted by the prisonguard is rape and not dominance.
In a BDSM setting sure, it's a femdom scene. BDSM is a controlled fantasy though and has absolutely nothing to do with that particular scene.

Is this a Gary Stu story where nothing bad happens to MC? No
Did the dev broke some "contract" between the target audience, relevant to what this game is supposed to be? No
So instead of voicing likes and dislikes and providing some feedback, some people prefer to create a nice little strawman and attack it with everything they've got.

Like I always say, context matters. The VN is not a sequence of sex animations. It's a story which leads to sex animations.
I don't want to bore anyone by writing a wall of text about what I consider dominance and submission. It's beside the point. Misrepresentation and strawman arguments get on my nerves though.

The other day someone accused a dev for including NTR to his game, because some character thought that another character's wife cheated on him.
This is the extreme version of misrepresentation.
What happened here is the mild version.
The idea is the same.

Not liking things? Perfectly fine.
Misrepresenting the things that we don't like? Not fine.

 

[Juerhullycin]

I fully understand that someone may not want to have anything to do with Nixie and that prison scene.
My problem is with some of the arguments.

Just like being punched is violence and not masochism, being sexualy assaulted by the prisonguard is rape and not dominance.
In a BDSM setting sure, it's a femdom scene. BDSM is a controlled fantasy though and has absolutely nothing to do with that particular scene.

Is this a Gary Stu story where nothing bad happens to MC? No
Did the dev broke some "contract" between the target audience, relevant to what this game is supposed to be? No
So instead of voicing likes and dislikes and providing some feedback, some people prefer to create a nice little strawman and attack it with everything they've got.

Like I always say, context matters. The VN is not a sequence of sex animations. It's a story which leads to sex animations.
I don't want to bore anyone by writing a wall of text about what I consider dominance and submission. It's beside the point. Misrepresentation and strawman arguments get on my nerves though.

The other day someone accused a dev for including NTR to his game, because some character thought that another character's wife cheated on him.
This is the extreme version of misrepresentation.
What happened here is the mild version.
The idea is the same.

Not liking things? Perfectly fine.
Misrepresenting the things that we don't like? Not fine.

not sure if I understand your post correctly, but if I understand you, you didn't targeted your post at me.

all I said was that Nixie was a rapey little creep that in that "femdom"-scene (which is as you pointed out is in reality that she SAed the MC) and that it killed every interest "I" had in that quasi-rapist.

 

[Gtdead]

not sure if I understand your post correctly, but if I understand you, you didn't targeted your post at me.

all I said was that Nixie was a rapey little creep that in that "femdom"-scene (which is as you pointed out is in reality that she SAed the MC) and that it killed every interest "I" had in that quasi-rapist.

I may have gotten a bit righteous while explaining my position. I apologize for any ambiguity. I didn't target you in particular although you have been an inspiration for the post by saying that you have a problem with femdom characters in a maledom game.

I'm not interested in delving into the finer points of maledom at this point. Suffice to say I would never want anyone to somehow read the page and get the wrong idea about the game's content and that's what I got by reading it. Thankfully I have already played the game so I could make up my mind.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

I fully understand that someone may not want to have anything to do with Nixie and that prison scene.
My problem is with some of the arguments.

Just like being punched is violence and not masochism, being sexualy assaulted by the prisonguard is rape and not dominance.

What I hate the most about the scene is that it's rape.

As I've said before, not liking Nixie when I avoid the scene may not be logical, but it won't change how I feel. And since we're going to be able to stop the MC from having romance and sex with her, well, that's what I'll do.

IIRC, there was a continuity error last chapter where the Nixie events are mentioned by Irena, even if you didn't do them. IDK if that was fixed.

I saw it at the time, but I haven't checked if it's still there.

 

[Flynn974]

Future of the project... (I urgently need support on Patreon…)
Hi, everyone. I have already started working on chapter 1 of season 2 and I was planning on posting a progress update, but first, some bad news...
I have honestly debated whether or not I should write this post, and I ultimately decided to write it after all… So, as many of you might’ve noticed, my latest update was leaked very very early into release on F95zone. Furthermore, you might’ve also noticed that even though lots of work was put in to make nice looking renders, the plot was kind of rushed, wasn’t it? So why?
Well, you see I’m living in Germany now, and as you might know, you’d usually need around 750 euros a month to stay afloat around here. However, if anyone saw my patron count, they’d probably be able to guess that I was quite short on that amount for the last couple of months. That’s why I saved up some money (thanks to my loyal patrons) before I moved to Germany to account for the insufficient Patreon income once I’m here. And I ate a hole in those saving as I was sadly averaging between 500-600 euros a month on Patreon ever since I came here. But I had a plan, which seemed pretty solid. Release chapter 12, get a few new patrons and get to the 750+ euros per month goal and stop eating up your small savings, problem solved, right? Well…
Sadly chapter 12 proved to be quite the handful. It was planned to be way bigger than what it ended up being, but I had to rush its release because my savings were running out and I needed more support, and I hoped with its release I would get that and start being able to chill out while making my updates and not have to rush them. However, thanks to the leak, my Patreon income is still not nearly enough as it barely increased because I was only granted very few days (3 or 4 if I’m not mistaken) of early access and no one had to subscribe. I still don’t understand why someone would pay 35 euros just to potentially destroy the project…
Regardless… Point is, if I don’t get many more patrons in the next few weeks, I will run out of savings in a month or two and will have to take a part time job next to being a student, which trust me is already taxing enough. If I end up doing that, we can all kiss the project goodbye as I well most certainly have no time to work on it anymore.
If you guys care about the project and want it to stay alive, please consider supporting me on Patreon, because I need it now more than ever…
As always, thank you!
-Flynn.

TL;DR: Thanks to someone leaking the project, I will probably have to abandon it in a few weeks if don’t get support on Patreon, if you care about the project and want it to stay alive, please support me now…

 

[STATE_]

Quit leaking his game plz it’s messed up for him to put so much work in to not earn off his work it’s good a game

 

[BakaHu]

Currently at 200 subs at minimum $700 a month
Just need a few more

 

[shitass1001]

Currently at 200 subs at minimum $700 a month
Just need a few more

American dollars $ are different from euros €. also patreon takes a cut.

 

[BakaHu]

American dollars $ are different from euros €. also patreon takes a cut.

Assuming he has the pro plan at 8% fee €588.43 at minimum
Needs around 60 more white belts

 

[joblo9394]

IMO

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Person leaks it no need to subscribe.

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leak or not ultimately the end goal is to fund the dev.

I am not saying to not offer early/exclusive access as giving something back to your supporters is a good thing. What I am saying is if people like the project there should be a thought shift.

What is the biggest reasons we pay for games, and not just by everything used from gamestop. To support the devs and ensure continuation. I feel the patron module detracts people from that fact as people get to caught up in early/exclusive access.

Basically what I am trying to say is if you like the game early access should be a bonus to you. If you like the game enough to want to support it support it leek, or no leek as otherwise that game you like so much may one day not be there.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

IMO

subscribe for early/exclusive access
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Person leaks it no need to subscribe.

subscribe to support the dev and the project
stable
leak or not ultimately the end goal is to fund the dev.

I am not saying to not offer early/exclusive access as giving something back to your supporters is a good thing. What I am saying is if people like the project there should be a thought shift.

What is the biggest reasons we pay for games, and not just by everything used from gamestop. To support the devs and ensure continuation. I feel the patron module detracts people from that fact as people get to caught up in early/exclusive access.

Basically what I am trying to say is if you like the game early access should be a bonus to you. If you like the game enough to want to support it support it leek, or no leek as otherwise that game you like so much may one day not be there.

I think there's a balance to it. A lot of devs have noted that their subs either taper off or actually drop after a leak, so some people definitely need a personal motivation to support. On the other hand you're right that people supporting to support are a lot more stable.
I really hope it works out by I worry Flynn put too many of his eggs in one basket. You need to develop a strong enough support base before you make game developing your sole job. Especially with the massive over saturation of adult games in the post covid world. Then compounding that most of SI's development has been on an entirely free model. Pretty sure there's only been like 3 updates since Flynn opened his Patreon. The amount of support he's gotten in that short time is actually really impressive but it's almost impossible to make a living wage off of this that fast in the current market.

 

[SSJSonGoku]

I honestly think that leaking something early IS idiotic. Sorry, but that's my opinion.
Some people keep saying: "I don't support until a project is finished, cause devs abandon and/or take ages when supported".
Sure, some do it intentionally, but others are seriously hurt by early leaks and lack of support.
Early leaks are really bad in my opinion, when you still have a free tier and such.

 

[Treevatreeva]

There are loads of people on this site who are patreon supporters of games. I think plenty of patrons are aware of this site lol, where do you think the leaks flow from... and a lot of their willingness to leak is related to their "loyalty" which is definitely impacted by how much of a money grab the game is perceived as. And I am just saying, have soooo many tiers kind of screams money grab.

And Flynn I hear you but at the same time, it isn't your customers' responsibility to finance your choice of living circumstances. Would patrons automatically pay more for a dev who lives in say Dubai or France, versus one who lives in some place like South America with a lower cost of living, for the same exact game? I don't think so. They care about the game quality, regularity of updates, the value of the content in the patreon posts, some care about votes and opportunities to 'influence' the game, etc. Your living expenses not so much. Just my $0.02 so take it for what it's worth.

Sure you can say its not your responabilty to make it so he can afford to live but that doesnt change the conercquies, if he cant afford to feed himself off his work then he will have to find a different job which possibly means the project get abandoned. He doesnt have the following yet to be secure in his job. if people like the game and want content to continue from it they have to support it and leaking it is the opposite of that