VN Ren'Py Stray Incubus [S2 Ch.3b] [IP Studios]

[Ebonheart (FR)]

might be just me, but i´m gonna wait a couple of updates with this continuation before i even start to think about subbing again. Still a bit sceptical in which direction it´s gonna go now with completely new devs.

best of luck regardless

I understand, and of course, no one is forcing you. As for me, I'm waiting to see what they'll bring to the table. It’s clear that it won’t be easy for them, but we don’t yet know what they’re capable of. I’m hopeful that they’ll succeed, though. We’ll see.

 

[OnlyNeverNow]

I realize there are bigger concerns in this thread, but does anyone know if there's a backup of the persistent save file anywhere?

I hate when devs do a chapter 2 as a "separate" game but it isn't actually, opened chapter 2 and it wiped all my save page names for chapter 1 :/

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

I realize there are bigger concerns in this thread, but does anyone know if there's a backup of the persistent save file anywhere?

I hate when devs do a chapter 2 as a "separate" game but it isn't actually, opened chapter 2 and it wiped all my save page names for chapter 1 :/

I’m not sure if you’re playing on a classic Windows PC, but in general, the saves are stored here :

C:\Users\<YourUsername>\AppData\Roaming\RenPy\<GameName>\saves

You should normally find your saves there, separated into different types (auto, manual, and persistent saves). If you were worried about losing your saves by deleting the game to free up space for exemple, no worries – your saves should remain stored in this location on your PC.

As for Season 2, didn’t it have a sort of quiz at the beginning to ask about the choices you made in S1 ? Honestly, I can't quite recall. I play so many different games that I’m not sure if it’s a quiz or if you load a previous save. Have you tried starting a new game from S2, if that's possible ?

Otherwise, skip through all of Season 1 and see if there's a prompt at the end to transfer the save to Season 2. Start S2, try loading the latest save, and if that doesn’t work, check if you can start a new game directly from Season 2.

 

[Overlord070]

Damn, had no idea this was abandoned.

 

[packor]

Also, it is possible to just hire Flinn as a part-time screenwriter. Wouldn't require nearly as much time. Just a food for thought.

it's not impossible, but chances are astronomically low. He already didn't earn enough when he was working on it himself. Now there are two dev's to take the income. To get any meaningful wage for scriptwriting, this would have to become immensely successful.

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

Damn, had no idea this was abandoned.

To make a long story short, in case you missed what happened, Flynn, the developer, had to leave the project due to serious family and personal issues (I think partly health-related). Since then, two people from the community have stepped up to continue the project, so production of the game should be resuming. That's the latest news we have.

it's not impossible, but chances are astronomically low. He already didn't earn enough when he was working on it himself. Now there are two dev's to take the income. To get any meaningful wage for scriptwriting, this would have to become immensely successful.

Flynn probably won't come back; his departure seems final, and he likely intended it that way. Given the personal and serious issues he's facing, it wouldn't make sense for him to return, even in a different role.

Also, I don’t really see him coming back to a project he started, then left, to take on a secondary or non-decisional role. It was his game, after all. Plus, with his current issues, I doubt he’d have the time or desire to do that. I think it's best if people leave him in peace. The project will continue in a different way, and we need to accept this new reality.

 

[packor]

Also, I don’t really see him coming back to a project he started, then left, to take on a smaller or non-decisional role.

it's a High decisional role, and a lot more work than everyone believes.

He would not only write the story, but also decide where the sex scenes are and how characters sexually interact with each other, because he Has to have a deep understanding of all that, or the story will lose coherency. So either the dev's have to tell him, "I want this and this interaction between these characters", and he has to fit that in, OR he is the Only one that decides "these characters will have these interactions", and the dev's will then make scenes that way. It's a very involved process for all three people, and he would not only be the writer, but also the director. it's a Big role involving a Lot of work, and a Lot of communication, and a Lot of commitment.

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

it's a High decisional role, and a lot more work than everyone believes.

He would not only write the story, but also decide where the sex scenes are and how characters sexually interact with each other, because he Has to have a deep understanding of all that, or the story will lose coherency. So either the dev's have to tell him, "I want this and this interaction between these characters", and he has to fit that in, OR he is the Only one that decides "these characters will have these interactions", and the dev's will then make scenes that way. It's a very involved process for all three people, and he would not only be the writer, but also the director. it's a Big role involving a Lot of work, and a Lot of communication, and a Lot of commitment.

I can believe that it's a noble role and a lot of work. Personally, I prioritize writing and storytelling over gameplay as the main criteria in games on F95. However, here I was mainly referring (but bad I admit it) to the fact that he might no longer occupy a significant role or have the same level of freedom on this project. It's reasonable to think that, given the reasons Fynn mentioned in his last message.

It's indeed a very demanding activity, perhaps just as much as other aspects of game development. And once again, if he had been able to continue working on his game, believing he could do so, he would have. Flynn left everything behind because he had no other option, and his decision was intended to be final. (most important word here)

I’m not even considering potential conflicts over ownership, task distribution, hierarchy, or profit sharing, which could arise from all of this. Of course, this is purely hypothetical and not necessarily what would happen in this type of situation.

As for me, I’ve come to accept that Flynn has left, a new team has taken over, and the game will likely change, at least to some extent. I’m now curious to see how it will evolve from here.

 

[imadumb]

fufiling my promisse of sending fanarts until new devs are choosen, last batch for now guys <3

 

[Hello231]

Will it be in this thread, or is there will be a new one?

//Also, it is possible to just hire Flinn as a part-time screenwriter. Wouldn't require nearly as much time. Just a food for thought.

it will be really good if Flynn974 is involved somehow or at least give the new dev some help?ideas(please make a comebback if you can )...


[Now,some may say that he will never be back...well,it's your opinion and you are not 100% sure.Also,he may come back in future after seeing his fan's request(reallly man really hope so...)

 

[Wolfeszorn]

it will be really good if Flynn974 is involved somehow or at least give the new dev some help?ideas(please make a comebback if you can )...


[Now,some may say that he will never be back...well,it's your opinion and you are not 100% sure.Also,he may come back in future after seeing his fan's request(reallly man really hope so...)

mate... learn to read. the new devs already confirmed that hes not coming back. EVER

literally 12 posts above yours

 

[packor]

lol, actually, neither of the dev's have posted anything here yet.

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

mate... learn to read. the new devs already confirmed that hes not coming back. EVER

literally 12 posts above yours

lol, actually, neither of the dev's have posted anything here yet.

If you want to be somewhat or very picky, then yes, it's true that this person (AsTc3r) who gave us some news since Flynn left isn’t one of the two new developers (peggy1303 and ischwhit), but a moderator from the Stray Incubus Discord. In reality, it's not a big deal, since AsTc3r has an official role and seems to speak for the development team.

Otherwise, I agree with Wolfeszorn and AsTc3r – Flynn’s not coming back, it’s pretty clear, and his decision was final. Sorry to those who are saddened by this, but it's the reality we have to accept.

 

[packor]

If you want to be somewhat or very picky, then yes, it's true that this person (AsTc3r) who gave us some news since Flynn left isn’t one of the two new developers (peggy1303 and ischwhit), but a moderator from the Stray Incubus Discord. In reality, it's not a big deal, since AsTc3r has an official role and seems to speak for the development team.

Otherwise, I agree with Wolfeszorn and AsTc3r – Flynn’s not coming back, it’s pretty clear, and his decision was final

well, the claim is that dev's came out and said that Flynn will never come back. That didn't happen at all. Words should not be put in people's mouth. In this thread's recent activity, news evolved from:

Flynn abandoned this project, it's dead > Flynn left the assets to us > new dev's.

A lot of people tried to make random guesses without knowing what is happening IRL that totally contradict what actually ended up happening. They're just guesses, and that's fine, but don't make a claim without solid evidence.

 

[Overlord070]

To make a long story short, in case you missed what happened, Flynn, the developer, had to leave the project due to serious family and personal issues (I think partly health-related). Since then, two people from the community have stepped up to continue the project, so production of the game should be resuming. That's the latest news we have.



Flynn probably won't come back; his departure seems final, and he likely intended it that way. Given the personal and financial issues he's facing, it wouldn't make sense for him to return, even in a different role.

Also, I don’t really see him coming back to a project he started, then left, to take on a smaller or non-decisional role. It was his game, after all. Plus, with his current issues, I doubt he’d have the time or desire to do that. I think it's best if people leave him in peace. The project will continue in a different way, and we need to accept this new reality.

Yeah, I went and read back a few pages back, what a shame.

I don't really have any expectations for this under new management, creative projects like this usually suffer when it changes hands since it's no longer the creator's vision. Nevertheless I still wish the new devs all the luck possible.

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

well, the claim is that dev's came out and said that Flynn will never come back. That didn't happen at all. Words should not be put in people's mouth. In this thread's recent activity, news evolved from:

Flynn abandoned this project, it's dead > Flynn left the assets to us > new dev's.

A lot of people tried to make random guesses without knowing what is happening IRL that totally contradict what actually ended up happening. They're just guesses, and that's fine, but don't make a claim without solid evidence.

Well, I mean, it’s pretty understandable why he might’ve made that mistake out of simple misunderstanding, and it’s important to differentiate that from a bold statement. It’s a small nuance. Especially since the main point of his message was to say that Flynn left and probably won’t be coming back, which is pretty much the same thing the dev moderator said — he is probably one of the last people who talked to him, and possibly one of the mods who helped pass along all the assets, notes, and renders left by Flynn to the new devs (you can check on Discord, in general and announcements). This moderator also kept us updated on everything going on since Flynn left.

Also, we can use reason and logic even without having all the proof we might want. If we waited for 100% certainty with undeniable proof, we’d probably never say anything at all. We can’t stop people from speculating, whether they’re right or wrong — it happens all the time, especially in a space like this where we’re here to talk things through. Honestly, you’re kind of contradicting yourself with this stance, especially when we think back to when you were supporting the idea that Flynn could be recruited by the new team as the writer for the game (again, check AsTc3r’s message and Flynn’s last one to see why that hypothesis probably doesn’t hold up, at least not right now).

I had also stepped in before to try and clear up some of the pointless drama, toxic comments, conspiracy theories, and accusations being thrown around about Flynn, trying to somehow but wrongly make sense of his departure or abandonment of the game. I shared Flynn’s last message from his Discord (I’ve even self-cited below for reference). Nobody was perfect in these discussions, that’s for sure, but we do have some solid info to back up our points, mainly from the Stray Incubus Discord. If people could just check the info there themselves, that’d be a good start, especially since it’s free. It doesn’t answer everything, but it gives us a solid foundation for analyzing and talking about the situation.

And yeah, of course, we’re in a new reality since Flynn quitting, and that’s a pretty big shift. People are expressing doubts and asking questions, which is totally normal. Some people are clearly having a hard time accepting Flynn’s departure and the fact that this new situation is likely permanent, at least compared to the old context. People have a hard time accepting change and letting go of what they used to enjoy, especially when what they loved is just gone now. It’s a tough lesson, but it’s one we all have to learn at some point.

I already talked with a F95 mod and they said the thread could be continued since its a direct continuation not a remake and we also work with the stuff flynn left behind.

For the other part i said it clearly enough didnt I? Flynn wont come back to SI, in no way or another, he just wont, please just accept that. It was his final decision and there is just no way back for him sadly but thats what it is. He has to live with that and we do too.

Seeing all the silly theories about why the game stopped and people arguing in the thread trying to prove they're right, I’ll just share the last message Flynn974 posted on his Discord server. You can check it out in the 'flynns-final-message' section at the top left of the channel tabs.
I think arguing over those reasons, or trying to prove that one person or another is right, is pretty childish and unhelpful. Spreading rumors and false claims doesn’t get us anywhere either.

Flynn974 clearly explained in his message the serious and important reasons behind the halt of production on his AVN and why he stepped back from this activity. I have no reason to question what he said, and even if I did, it wouldn't change the current situation.
I’m sharing this message with you all, sorry if it’s already been shared, so everyone can check it out freely and maybe get convinced or at least learn about the reasons Flynn gave.

Also, I’d like to add that the dev was respectful and transparent with his community of backers by explaining why he’s stepping away. He could’ve easily chosen not to say anything, stopped communicating with his supporters, and kept taking money from them while leaving his accounts active on the platforms where Stray Incubus was hosted.
To me, that doesn’t really give anyone a valid reason to go after him or question his integrity. That’s just my opinion on the matter, though.

I'll leave it up to you to form your own opinion with all the facts, in case you haven’t read this message left by the developer.

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For the other part i said it clearly enough didnt I? Flynn wont come back to SI, in no way or another, he just wont, please just accept that. It was his final decision and there is just no way back for him sadly but thats what it is. He has to live with that and we do too.

 

[OnlyNeverNow]

I’m not sure if you’re playing on a classic Windows PC, but in general, the saves are stored here :

C:\Users\<YourUsername>\AppData\Roaming\RenPy\<GameName>\saves

You should normally find your saves there, separated into different types (auto, manual, and persistent saves). If you were worried about losing your saves by deleting the game to free up space for exemple, no worries – your saves should remain stored in this location on your PC.

As for Season 2, didn’t it have a sort of quiz at the beginning to ask about the choices you made in S1 ? Honestly, I can't quite recall. I play so many different games that I’m not sure if it’s a quiz or if you load a previous save. Have you tried starting a new game from S2, if that's possible ?

Otherwise, skip through all of Season 1 and see if there's a prompt at the end to transfer the save to Season 2. Start S2, try loading the latest save, and if that doesn’t work, check if you can start a new game directly from Season 2.

yeah i checked that location, but unfortunately my persistent got overwritten.

My saves themselves are fine, its just that i like to give every save page a title so i can remember what happened in the story at that point, and when I opened Stray Incubus 2, it overwrote my persistent file for Stray 1 and therefore deleted all of my save names.

anyways, thanks for the advice. just gotta suck it up and move on

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

yeah i checked that location, but unfortunately my persistent got overwritten.

My saves themselves are fine, its just that i like to give every save page a title so i can remember what happened in the story at that point, and when I opened Stray Incubus 2, it overwrote my persistent file for Stray 1 and therefore deleted all of my save names.

anyways, thanks for the advice. just gotta suck it up and move on

No problem, sorry about your little mishap, good luck solving your issue ! ^^

 

[packor]

Well, I mean, it’s pretty understandable why he might’ve made that mistake out of simple misunderstanding, and it’s important to differentiate that from a bold statement. It’s a small nuance. Especially since the main point of his message was to say that Flynn left and probably won’t be coming back

you're trying too hard to push this idea. I don't really care about that. He said that dev's said something about Flynn. I said that they didn't. That's it. There's no need to keep repeating yourself about how you don't believe he will come back.

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

you're trying too hard to push this idea. I don't really care about that. He said that dev's said something about Flynn. I said that they didn't. That's it. There's no need to keep repeating yourself about how you don't believe he will come back.

I didn’t repeat myself just to respond to you, but it seemed important to try to make this clear to those who seem to have trouble accepting the current situation. The person here just made a small mistake regarding AsTc3r’s status, but I felt that the main point of the message was more important than a confusion in the label.

Everyone sees things from their own point of view, and it's not a big deal—everyone is entitled to their opinion. I just wanted to highlight what seemed relevant and important to me here. Anyway, I’m not going to spend all my time repeating obvious things to anyone who wants to hear it or not, I’ll get tired long before that ! x) And discussions that tend to go in circles don't interest me either.